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I thought I would post to the group about an article in the paper here in

Denmark. I have mentioned that they have begun to do WLS in Denmark after about

20 years of banning it. I responded to the writer of the article because I felt

it needed the opinion of someone who actually has had success. I would send the

article word for word but to difficult to translate!

This all came about because of a show on one of the local channels about obese

people in DK. It is basically a fat camp and follows the progress of certain

individuals. I watched it once and wasn't impressed. To me, it seemed to make

fun of those failures and deep sadness of some. It may not have all been like

that but I didn't care to watch more. Anyway, one of the main people that they

followed recently died from heart failure and was only 40. So now the paper

interviewed the leading doctor in the country for WLS and a woman who has had it

done and says it doesn't work. We all know that there is two or more sides of

the story. My opinion may not be that of another but these people cannot be

mislead.

Let me explain a bit of the healthcare system here. Healthcare is " free " . Well,

you pay 52% of your income to taxes. No choice. This pays for your healthcare

and you are not given much choice of options. All of you have heard my

complaints about not being able to find my own doctor to help monitor my after

RYN health. I only recently got lucky with the new doctor at our local hospital.

Every family has a family practice doctor...which I might add, mine has been

wonderful. Then if you need anything out of the ordinary, you have to be

referred out. You receive a letter telling you when and where to go. End of

story.

Now to tell you what the doctor in the article said. He said that overweight

people cannot lose weight and keep it off. He said they can lose but WILL regain

it. His words were that no one can remain be successful without having WLS. He

said that obesity is not a psychiatric problem and that none of that is really

needed to be successful. He insisted the Danish Healthcare System would save so

much money because people would not have so many problems related to obesity. He

insisted that people should have what I understand to be the Vertical Banded

Gastroplasty or the newer version of that surgery. He said they are now doing

about 200 a year and need to be doing about 1000 a year. He said that Sweden is

doing that many and have about the same population numbers. He said they cannot

force people to have the surgery but can make it difficult to get healthcare if

they don't.

As for the woman in the article, she said she has had this surgery and it has

ruined her life. She did not lose but gained.

I have many thoughts about the article which I wrote to them. I disagreed with

much of what the doctor said and gave my explanation of why the woman was not

successful. I had a lot to say about educating people more on their options.

Information for post ops as well as doctors who deal with these patients. It was

quite long. I gave the writer all my information to contact me. I would love to

give my personal experience to those who need to know. I know it's not always

rosy but these people need information. If they do wish to interview me, I would

love some feedback from you all. I would like you to write letters that I can

give to the cause. Good or bad, it needs to be told. English is fine. Almost

everyone in DK can speak English. This is new here and I think many are

clueless. My own sister-in-law was offered the surgery. It is quite heavy. She

told them no way after seeing some horror story about WLS in the US. I don't

push her at all but am open to any questions. I told her I'm here.

Dawn

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I really think it's important to emphasize that the success of the surgery

depends as much (or more) on the type of surgery done as on the patient.

We all know that there are many types of WLS. The vertical band is probably

one of the less successful ones. It also depends on how big the pouch is.

Barbara Jean

Surgery in the media-long

> I thought I would post to the group about an article in the paper here in

Denmark. I have mentioned that they have begun to do WLS in Denmark after

about 20 years of banning it. I responded to the writer of the article

because I felt it needed the opinion of someone who actually has had

success. I would send the article word for word but to difficult to

translate!

>

> This all came about because of a show on one of the local channels about

obese people in DK. It is basically a fat camp and follows the progress of

certain individuals. I watched it once and wasn't impressed. To me, it

seemed to make fun of those failures and deep sadness of some. It may not

have all been like that but I didn't care to watch more. Anyway, one of the

main people that they followed recently died from heart failure and was only

40. So now the paper interviewed the leading doctor in the country for WLS

and a woman who has had it done and says it doesn't work. We all know that

there is two or more sides of the story. My opinion may not be that of

another but these people cannot be mislead.

>

> Let me explain a bit of the healthcare system here. Healthcare is " free " .

Well, you pay 52% of your income to taxes. No choice. This pays for your

healthcare and you are not given much choice of options. All of you have

heard my complaints about not being able to find my own doctor to help

monitor my after RYN health. I only recently got lucky with the new doctor

at our local hospital. Every family has a family practice doctor...which I

might add, mine has been wonderful. Then if you need anything out of the

ordinary, you have to be referred out. You receive a letter telling you when

and where to go. End of story.

>

> Now to tell you what the doctor in the article said. He said that

overweight people cannot lose weight and keep it off. He said they can lose

but WILL regain it. His words were that no one can remain be successful

without having WLS. He said that obesity is not a psychiatric problem and

that none of that is really needed to be successful. He insisted the Danish

Healthcare System would save so much money because people would not have so

many problems related to obesity. He insisted that people should have what I

understand to be the Vertical Banded Gastroplasty or the newer version of

that surgery. He said they are now doing about 200 a year and need to be

doing about 1000 a year. He said that Sweden is doing that many and have

about the same population numbers. He said they cannot force people to have

the surgery but can make it difficult to get healthcare if they don't.

>

> As for the woman in the article, she said she has had this surgery and it

has ruined her life. She did not lose but gained.

>

> I have many thoughts about the article which I wrote to them. I disagreed

with much of what the doctor said and gave my explanation of why the woman

was not successful. I had a lot to say about educating people more on their

options. Information for post ops as well as doctors who deal with these

patients. It was quite long. I gave the writer all my information to contact

me. I would love to give my personal experience to those who need to know. I

know it's not always rosy but these people need information. If they do wish

to interview me, I would love some feedback from you all. I would like you

to write letters that I can give to the cause. Good or bad, it needs to be

told. English is fine. Almost everyone in DK can speak English. This is new

here and I think many are clueless. My own sister-in-law was offered the

surgery. It is quite heavy. She told them no way after seeing some horror

story about WLS in the US. I don't push her at all but am open to any

questions. I told her I'm here.

>

> Dawn

>

>

>

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Barbara Jean,

Of course I am telling them about the success. I myself had open RYN and am

very happy about it. There are two sides of every coin. My request is to

have people to tell their stories so that people here will know they have

choices rather than one type of surgery as you stated. I left most of my

personal opinions out of it only to let yall make your own opinions. I have

not heard back from the newspaper so maybe they aren't even interested in

the positive. Thank you for responding. I'll let the list know if they do

respond.

Dawn

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