Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Hi Everyone, I have only been on the SCD for 2 weeks, but have been seeing a Chinese Medicine doctor for acupuncture and chinese herbs for my UC. I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success? PS - I joined this website about a week ago and just want to say thank you to those who work so hard to make it happen. What a relief it is to know you are not alone. Thank you, Tobi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 I have heard some Chinese herbs contain illegals. You may want to stop them and see how that works. Acupuncture had generally been helpful. PJ > > Hi Everyone, > > I have only been on the SCD for 2 weeks, but have been seeing a Chinese Medicine doctor for acupuncture and chinese herbs for my UC. I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success? > > PS - I joined this website about a week ago and just want to say thank you to those who work so hard to make it happen. What a relief it is to know you are not alone. > > Thank you, > Tobi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2010 Report Share Posted August 1, 2010 Thanks everyone. I had considered the herbs may be the problem, yet that doctor started me on this diet so I thought he would have thought of that. Better check again. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success?Acupuncture was a tremendous help to me prior to my cancer surgery (for uterine cancer) and for pain relief afterwards. It was also wonderful to getting things back in balance after I had my colonoscopy.I would recommend being careful of Chinese herbs because some of them are quite high in polysaccharides, and are thus SCD-illegal, so you could be at cross-purposes with them and SCD. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success?Weird, that's exactly what happened to me. However, that was when I did the acupuncture AND herbs (with SCD illegals). When I just did acupuncture I don't think my symptoms changed much, but I felt a lot better in general and slept great. Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 12.5 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Acupuncture alligns the body's energy, it could help in the body's wellness processing. Dr. Webb, Preventative & Homeopathy Suggested to me: Nux Vomica 30c 4pellets 2x a day for 10days then work a bit with Lycopoduum 30c same treatment as NuxVo These are are for the digestive system. I have just begun so I cannot share any results as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I have IBS, and although I haven't gone for acupuncture in recent months, I used to go regularly. It definitely helped me feel better in general and calm the gut down for awhile each time. We did try me on the Chinese Herbs but I didn't get along with them at all. I suspect now it's that they probably have a lot of illegals in them. But the acupuncture I hope to get back to soon. I have only been on the SCD for 2 weeks, but have been seeing a Chinese Medicine doctor for acupuncture and chinese herbs for my UC. I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Thanks Terri. It will be interesting to see how you do with this treatment. Subject: Re: AcupunctureTo: BTVC-SCD Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 6:45 PM Acupuncture alligns the body's energy, it could help in the body's wellness processing. Dr. Webb, Preventative & Homeopathy Suggested to me: Nux Vomica 30c 4pellets 2x a day for 10days then work a bit with Lycopoduum 30c same treatment as NuxVo These are are for the digestive system. I have just begun so I cannot share any results as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 My daughter used acupuncture frequently at the beginning after being dx'ed w. Crohn's. She now goes only when she feels a flare coming on, or if we want to make sure her body is in good balance (like before going away to summer camp, where she would not be able to SCD 100%). I agree that the herbs could be the problem here. Good luck and hope you feel better soon, Ellen in Boston 12 y/o dd scd for 4 years for Crohn's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Hi Terri, I would stop taking the Nux vomica and Lycopodium. It looks like they can be hard on your gut. See below: Carol CD 22 yrs SCD 5 yrs http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/n/nuxvom08.html <snip> Nux Vomica POISON! Steadman Shorter's Medical Dictionary, Poisons & Antidotes: Strychnine Botanical: Strychnos Nux-vomica (LINN.) Family: N.O. Loganiaceae ---Constituents---Nux Vomica contains the alkaloids, Strychnine and Brucine, also traces of strychnicine, and a glucoside Loganin, about 3 per cent fatty matter, caffeotannic acid and a trace of copper. The pulp of the fruit contains about 5 per cent of loganin together with the alkaloid strychnicine. And from http://www.herbsphere.com/earlystagealzheimers.htm Chinese Club Moss – Traditional Uses: Taking a conglomeration of sources, it appears that Chinese Club Moss (Huperzia serrata syn. Lycopodium serratum Thunb.) has been used for centuries in China to treat colds, fever, inflammation, pain and menstrual cycles.5 It has been used for muscle strains, and rheumatological conditions such as arthritis.6 The plants are also known to contain chemicals that may promote loss of water from the body and help to reduce swelling due to water retention.7 From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Terri Bova Acupuncture alligns the body's energy, it could help in the body's wellness processing. Dr. Webb, Preventative & Homeopathy Suggested to me: Nux Vomica 30c 4pellets 2x a day for 10days then work a bit with Lycopoduum 30c same treatment as NuxVo These are are for the digestive system. I have just begun so I cannot share any results as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I have been using acupuncture for my UC for the last two months. It has helped enormously. I do not use any herbs, but the main reason I went in the first place was for fertility, but she is treating my UC and digestion and all of it is helping wonderfully. I personally would recommend just the needles but I don't think a lot of the traditional medicine is good for IBD people. You would be better off doing the needles and use coconut oil/GSE/garlic/apple cider vinegar/SCD and even LDN instead of herbs. My acupuncturist hasn't ever even mentioned herbs for the most part and is not as into that as she is into diet, sleep, and exercise/lifestyle. She is into Weston Price and even knew about SCD, so I am lucky to have her. Maybe cut out the herbs and see what happens? Personally my UC is the best in a long time, and actually the last two years at this time I was deathly ill. I do think seasons are troublesome, and allergies. But I didn't know about coconut oil, LDN, garlic, apple cider vinegar, GSE etc. last year even though I was on SCD. Now I do and hope to keep balanced with my current regime and acupuncture too. Good luck.CathleenUC since age 15SCD, LDN, acupuncture, garlic, GSE, coconut oil, apple cider vinegar/H2O2/Budwig. Subject: AcupunctureTo: BTVC-SCD Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 6:49 PM Hi Everyone, I have only been on the SCD for 2 weeks, but have been seeing a Chinese Medicine doctor for acupuncture and chinese herbs for my UC. I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success? PS - I joined this website about a week ago and just want to say thank you to those who work so hard to make it happen. What a relief it is to know you are not alone. Thank you, Tobi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Thanks Cathleen - this is great information. From: shelbylou321 <shelbylou321@ yahoo.com>Subject: AcupunctureTo: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.comDate: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 6:49 PM Hi Everyone,I have only been on the SCD for 2 weeks, but have been seeing a Chinese Medicine doctor for acupuncture and chinese herbs for my UC. I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success?PS - I joined this website about a week ago and just want to say thank you to those who work so hard to make it happen. What a relief it is to know you are not alone.Thank you,Tobi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 I began seeing a Chinese Dr/Accupuncturist with weekly visits since May 29th, 2010. I'm off all of my meds now - Entocort, Imuran, and Asacol. I was having flares on those meds and gastro was going to put me on something stronger - injectible. I've had a few flares since coming off the Asacol but I got through them without going to the hospital. While the accupuncture helps the practioner says it's the herbs that are doing most of the healing. I am now cutting back to bi-weekly visits and feel like I'm moving in the right direction. > > > Subject: Acupuncture > To: BTVC-SCD > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 6:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I have only been on the SCD for 2 weeks, but have been seeing a Chinese Medicine doctor for acupuncture and chinese herbs for my UC. I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success? > > > > PS - I joined this website about a week ago and just want to say thank you to those who work so hard to make it happen. What a relief it is to know you are not alone. > > > > Thank you, > > Tobi > > > > > > > > > Cathleen Kenny, MezzoVoce A Unique American Solo Vocal Act > email: mezzovocekenny@... > web: http://www.youtube.com/catandchar telephone: > MezzoVoce--Rich, Vivid and Harmonious-A Voice of the 21st Century > Master & Bachelor of Arts- music performance, summa cum laude honors > > > > > > > > > > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 was your practitioner able to give you herbs that are SCD legal? Subject: Re: AcupunctureTo: BTVC-SCD Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 1:49 AM I began seeing a Chinese Dr/Accupuncturist with weekly visits since May 29th, 2010. I'm off all of my meds now - Entocort, Imuran, and Asacol. I was having flares on those meds and gastro was going to put me on something stronger - injectible. I've had a few flares since coming off the Asacol but I got through them without going to the hospital. While the accupuncture helps the practioner says it's the herbs that are doing most of the healing. I am now cutting back to bi-weekly visits and feel like I'm moving in the right direction.> > > Subject: Acupuncture> To: BTVC-SCD > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 6:49 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone,> > > > I have only been on the SCD for 2 weeks, but have been seeing a Chinese Medicine doctor for acupuncture and chinese herbs for my UC. I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success?> > > > PS - I joined this website about a week ago and just want to say thank you to those who work so hard to make it happen. What a relief it is to know you are not alone.> > > > Thank you,> > Tobi> > > > > > > > > Cathleen Kenny, MezzoVoce A Unique American Solo Vocal Act > email: mezzovocekenny@...> web: http://www.youtube.com/catandchar telephone: > MezzoVoce--Rich, Vivid and Harmonious-A Voice of the 21st Century> Master & Bachelor of Arts- music performance, summa cum laude honors> > > > > > > > > > > .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2010 Report Share Posted August 2, 2010 Well, thank you for this, very interesting. I know much of homeopathy comes from strange sources, some even from snake venom,, but it is diluted many times. Like cures like. I appreciate this site. Terri RE: Acupuncture Hi Terri, I would stop taking the Nux vomica and Lycopodium. It looks like they can be hard on your gut. See below: Carol CD 22 yrs SCD 5 yrs http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/n/nuxvom08.html <snip> Nux Vomica POISON! Steadman Shorter's Medical Dictionary, Poisons & Antidotes: Strychnine Botanical: Strychnos Nux-vomica (LINN.) Family: N.O. Loganiaceae ---Constituents---Nux Vomica contains the alkaloids, Strychnine and Brucine, also traces of strychnicine, and a glucoside Loganin, about 3 per cent fatty matter, caffeotannic acid and a trace of copper. The pulp of the fruit contains about 5 per cent of loganin together with the alkaloid strychnicine. And from http://www.herbsphere.com/earlystagealzheimers.htm Chinese Club Moss – Traditional Uses: Taking a conglomeration of sources, it appears that Chinese Club Moss (Huperzia serrata syn. Lycopodium serratum Thunb.) has been used for centuries in China to treat colds, fever, inflammation, pain and menstrual cycles.5 It has been used for muscle strains, and rheumatological conditions such as arthritis.6 The plants are also known to contain chemicals that may promote loss of water from the body and help to reduce swelling due to water retention.7 From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Terri Bova Acupuncture alligns the body's energy, it could help in the body's wellness processing. Dr. Webb, Preventative & Homeopathy Suggested to me: Nux Vomica 30c 4pellets 2x a day for 10days then work a bit with Lycopoduum 30c same treatment as NuxVo These are are for the digestive system. I have just begun so I cannot share any results as yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2010 Report Share Posted August 3, 2010 They are Chinese herbs. I have no idea what is in them. They come in a ground powder that I mix with water and drink. She knows I am on SCD and worked through my fears. I trust her enough now that I switched to her recommended vitamin (it contains iron which I was afraid of). I am tolerating them better than the Freeda brand. It is so difficult finding the right doctor. I had previously been to another acupuncturist, holistic practitioner, and MD/homeopath that did nothing for me other than cost a lot of money and put me on lots of supplements and vitamins. At one point I was up to 18 per day! All this occurred prior to my being diagnosed with Crohn’s. Since my diagnosis last year I have seen a gastro, GP, and two dietitians (that had no idea what they were doing). My regimen now is SCD, herbs 3 x day, Pure multi with iron 2 @ lunch, 1 @ dinner, Nordic Naturals liquid fish oil 1 x day, and liquid D 1 x day. From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Tobi Dudiak Sent: Monday, August 02, 2010 11:23 PM To: BTVC-SCD Subject: Re: Re: Acupuncture was your practitioner able to give you herbs that are SCD legal? Subject: Re: Acupuncture To: BTVC-SCD Date: Tuesday, August 3, 2010, 1:49 AM I began seeing a Chinese Dr/Accupuncturist with weekly visits since May 29th, 2010. I'm off all of my meds now - Entocort, Imuran, and Asacol. I was having flares on those meds and gastro was going to put me on something stronger - injectible. I've had a few flares since coming off the Asacol but I got through them without going to the hospital. While the accupuncture helps the practioner says it's the herbs that are doing most of the healing. I am now cutting back to bi-weekly visits and feel like I'm moving in the right direction. > > > Subject: Acupuncture > To: BTVC-SCD > Date: Sunday, August 1, 2010, 6:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > I have only been on the SCD for 2 weeks, but have been seeing a Chinese Medicine doctor for acupuncture and chinese herbs for my UC. I had great results initially - I actually couldn't believe how well it was working. However my symptoms are coming back with a vengeance, and adding a few new ones now. I was wondering if anyone else had tried acupuncture and if so, did you have any success? > > > > PS - I joined this website about a week ago and just want to say thank you to those who work so hard to make it happen. What a relief it is to know you are not alone. > > > > Thank you, > > Tobi > > > > > > > > > Cathleen Kenny, MezzoVoce A Unique American Solo Vocal Act > email: mezzovocekenny@... > web: http://www.youtube.com/catandchar telephone: > MezzoVoce--Rich, Vivid and Harmonious-A Voice of the 21st Century > Master & Bachelor of Arts- music performance, summa cum laude honors > > > > > > > > > > > . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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