Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 I got my bi-yearly bloodwork results and my integrative doc is showing me that my gluten levels are still significant. Hi Joanna! Goodness! With all you're doing, I find it hard to believe that you still are somehow ingesting gluten! Have you checked out anything else you might swallow, like toothpaste, makeup, chapstick, etc...? I wonder if you can absorb gluten through the skin? I'm sure this is confounding you! I sure hope you find some answers soon! Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 20 mg 1x per day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 Are you celiac? Can't it show up in celiac people for quite a while? (Or am I remembering thatincorrectly?) MaraI got my bi-yearly bloodwork results and my integrative doc is showing me that my gluten levels are still significant. Hi Joanna! Goodness! With all you're doing, I find it hard to believ! e that you still are somehow ingesting gluten! Have you checked out anything else you might swallow, like toothpaste, makeup, chapstick, etc...? I wonder if you can absorb gluten through the skin? I'm sure this is confounding you! I sure hope you find some answers soon!Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 20 mg 1x per day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2010 Report Share Posted June 14, 2010 I've never had a biopsy (and throughout my 18 years of Crohn's and colonoscopies they've never even suggested it?). But this new integrative doc had my blood sent to the Mayo clinic to see if I have the gene- which I do. He has " adult celiac disease " as one of my diagnoses. It's a fine line because I started going gluten free about a year ago and SCD about 9 months ago- so of course I've been feeling better! I'm not sure if I'll ever know for sure, but I'll probably never touch the stuff again. Does anyone know if it can show up for a while in Celiacs? I guess the frustrating this is that if this is the case, why does this doc just assume that I am ingesting it instead of trusting me that I'm not eating it and the test results are because it's still in my system? -Joanna > > > > > > >> I got my bi-yearly bloodwork results and my integrative doc is showing me that my gluten levels are still significant. > > > > > > Hi Joanna! Goodness! With all you're doing, I find it hard to believ! e that you still are somehow ingesting gluten! Have you checked out anything else you might swallow, like toothpaste, makeup, chapstick, etc...? I wonder if you can absorb gluten through the skin? I'm sure this is confounding you! I sure hope you find some answers soon! > > > > Cheers! > > Alyssa 16 yo > > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > > Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per day > > Prednisone 20 mg 1x per day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 http://www.csaceliacs.org/library/howsandwhys.phpI don't know if this helps or not. Not sure which test your physician used to determine you are still getting gluten. But I had remembered reading a while back that some of the blood tests used to diagnose Celiac can also indicate other food sensitivities (dairy and soy, for example) or other conditions. Anyway, about 3/4 of the way down, this article talks about other possibilities of a still positive test. Kelleydxed Celiac 4/10SCD 5/10 I've never had a biopsy (and throughout my 18 years of Crohn's and colonoscopies they've never even suggested it?). But this new integrative doc had my blood sent to the Mayo clinic to see if I have the gene- which I do. He has " adult celiac disease " as one of my diagnoses. It's a fine line because I started going gluten free about a year ago and SCD about 9 months ago- so of course I've been feeling better! I'm not sure if I'll ever know for sure, but I'll probably never touch the stuff again. Does anyone know if it can show up for a while in Celiacs? I guess the frustrating this is that if this is the case, why does this doc just assume that I am ingesting it instead of trusting me that I'm not eating it and the test results are because it's still in my system? -Joanna > > > > > > >> I got my bi-yearly bloodwork results and my integrative doc is showing me that my gluten levels are still significant. > > > > > > Hi Joanna! Goodness! With all you're doing, I find it hard to believ! e that you still are somehow ingesting gluten! Have you checked out anything else you might swallow, like toothpaste, makeup, chapstick, etc...? I wonder if you can absorb gluten through the skin? I'm sure this is confounding you! I sure hope you find some answers soon! > > > > Cheers! > > Alyssa 16 yo > > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > > Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per day > > Prednisone 20 mg 1x per day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Kelley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Hi, I actually just joined the group cause I will be starting my son on scd soon and know i'm going to need help. But I came across this and my son has been on the gf diet for a year. And from everything I know it takes about 10 weeks for it to be completly out of your system. And you also have to go 100% gluten free. It is not only in foods either, it is in soaps, shampoos, etc. So it def. can get into your skin from hair products, makeup, skin products.... I hope this can help you > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I got my bi-yearly bloodwork results and my integrative doc is showing > > me that my gluten levels are still significant. > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joanna! Goodness! With all you're doing, I find it hard to believ! e > > that you still are somehow ingesting gluten! Have you checked out anything > > else you might swallow, like toothpaste, makeup, chapstick, etc...? I wonder > > if you can absorb gluten through the skin? I'm sure this is confounding you! > > I sure hope you find some answers soon! > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > Alyssa 16 yo > > > > UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008 > > > > SCD June 2009 (restarted) > > > > Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per day > > > > Prednisone 20 mg 1x per day > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > Kelley > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Thanks you guys for that awesome website and the info below! I guess I figured that by doing SCD I was pretty much doing a gluten-free diet. I'm not sure how serious my celiac diagnosis is since all I know is that I have the gene (and because any symptoms would be so similar to the ones from my Crohn's, how would I distinguish?). But cracking down on what I put on my skin is certainly helpful. And I just got my own blender- it hasn't been 10 weeks and I am sure (UNFORTUNATELY) that was a huge culprit. -Joanna > > > > http://www.csaceliacs.org/library/howsandwhys.php > > .. > > > > Kelley > > dxed Celiac 4/10 > > SCD 5/10 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 It can take at least 10 weeks to clear. Last colonoscopy I had, I was told I had a bit of inflammation. I confessed to the doc that several months before I had taken one tiny bite of the cookie dough I was making for DH. He said that would have done it, that it can take months and months to clear. I would expect that people vary in how quickly they can clear gluten, too, like with many other things. Hi, I actually just joined the group cause I will be starting my son on scd soon and know i'm going to need help. But I came across this and my son has been on the gf diet for a year. And from everything I know it takes about 10 weeks for it to be completly out of your system. And you also have to go 100% gluten free. It is not only in foods either, it is in soaps, shampoos, etc. So it def. can get into your skin from hair products, makeup, skin products.... I hope this can help you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 I'll tell you how to REALLY wash the blender. Go take the blade piece and give it a thorough hosing with the Water Pik. You'll be surprised how much crud comes out no matter how well you have been washing it (I use a dedicated toothbrush) with lots of soap and hot water usually. I try to do this every few times I use it, because the crud gets up the shaft and in odd places. Nobody but me uses the blender so I don't have to worry about gluten or anything else, though. I don't suppose you could convince your roommate to do this after using it??? I'm planning to start sharing my blender with my new roommate, is that a bad idea? I'm sure they have no interest in just using SCD stuff for the blender, especially stage appropriate. I assume you were washing the blender out everytime in between switches SCD/not? it's still a problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 At 12:00 AM 6/16/2010, you wrote: Do I need to be careful about other kitchen utensils/appliances? Some people find it necessary to do so. Others do not. <g> My non-SCD husband doesn't touch my cooking gear, and doesn't ask me to use non-SCD ingredients at home, so we're cool. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 's suggestion is great, but I would rather pay $20 for a cheap blender than risk it. My husband was MILITANT about washing it out and I could still smell his protein powder. I have a much greater piece of mind just knowing that my blender is strictly SCD now. Aside from him super-llegal store bought yogurt, juice & protein powder smoothes, we are an SCD household now -Joanna > > I'll tell you how to REALLY wash the blender. Go take the blade > piece and give it a thorough hosing with the Water Pik. You'll be > surprised how much crud comes out no matter how well you have been > washing it (I use a dedicated toothbrush) with lots of soap and hot > water usually. I try to do this every few times I use it, because the > crud gets up the shaft and in odd places. Nobody but me uses the > blender so I don't have to worry about gluten or anything else, > though. I don't suppose you could convince your roommate to do this > after using it??? > > > > I'm planning to start sharing my blender with my new roommate, is that a bad > idea? I'm sure they have no interest in just using SCD stuff for the > blender, especially stage appropriate. I assume you were washing the blender > out everytime in between switches SCD/not? it's still a problem? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 If you have room for the extra blender, obviously this is the way not to have to worry about it. Congrats on having a near-perfect SCD household! 's suggestion is great, but I would rather pay $20 for a cheap blender than risk it. My husband was MILITANT about washing it out and I could still smell his protein powder. I have a much greater piece of mind just knowing that my blender is strictly SCD now. Aside from him super-llegal store bought yogurt, juice & protein powder smoothes, we are an SCD household now -Joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 I hope it's not too big an issue, because I live in a non-SCD household. I probably get traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is big on eating toast and crackers, but not big on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves all over the kitchen. And I know that most of the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD have since been used for non-SCD foods (like pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I try not to think about it too much :-(. Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > >Do I need to be careful about other kitchen utensils/appliances? > > Some people find it necessary to do so. > > Others do not. > > <g> My non-SCD husband doesn't touch my cooking > gear, and doesn't ask me to use non-SCD ingredients at home, so we're cool. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Babette the Foundling Beagle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 It's far more important for celiac people and maybe people with MCS than for people with regular IBD issues. Mara > I hope it's not too big an issue, because I live in a non-SCD household. I probably get traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is big on eating toast and crackers, but not big on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves all over the kitchen. And I know that most of the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD have since been used for non-SCD foods (like pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I try not to think about it too much :-(. > > Holly > Crohn's > SCD 12/01/08 > > >>> Do I need to be careful about other kitchen utensils/appliances? >> >> Some people find it necessary to do so. >> >> Others do not. >> >> <g> My non-SCD husband doesn't touch my cooking >> gear, and doesn't ask me to use non-SCD ingredients at home, so we're cool. >> >> >> — Marilyn >> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA >> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 >> Darn Good SCD Cook >> No Human Children >> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund >> Babette the Foundling Beagle >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 ugh, I have MCS _so_ bad it's not funny. :PThanks everyone!! I'm so glad I know ahead of time, if its that hard to get stuff consistently out of the blades, forget it, I am _not_ risking it!! Thank you!!! It's far more important for celiac people and maybe people with MCS than for people with regular IBD issues. Mara > I hope it's not too big an issue, because I live in a non-SCD household. I probably get traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is big on eating toast and crackers, but not big on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves all over the kitchen. And I know that most of the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD have since been used for non-SCD foods (like pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I try not to think about it too much :-(. > > Holly > Crohn's > SCD 12/01/08 > > >>> Do I need to be careful about other kitchen utensils/appliances? >> >> Some people find it necessary to do so. >> >> Others do not. >> >> <g> My non-SCD husband doesn't touch my cooking >> gear, and doesn't ask me to use non-SCD ingredients at home, so we're cool. >> >> >> — Marilyn >> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA >> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 >> Darn Good SCD Cook >> No Human Children >> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund >> Babette the Foundling Beagle >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 At 06:12 PM 6/17/2010, you wrote: I hope it's not too big an issue, because I live in a non-SCD household. I probably get traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is big on eating toast and crackers, but not big on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves all over the kitchen. And I know that most of the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD have since been used for non-SCD foods (like pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I try not to think about it too much :-(. It all depends on you. People who specifically have a celiac diagnosis need to be extra careful about gluten, since celiac was redefined when Modern Medicine abandoned the Haas Diet (aka SCD) as being gluten sensitive. They just skipped over all the folks who had other kinds of disorders. And yes, I understand the crumbs. Harry's one non-SCD indulgence in the house is whole wheat bread for his sandwiches and his toast. I had to smack him for getting crumbs in the butter. I don't guess threatening your Dad with a wooden spoon would work, would it? (I know it wouldn't work with MY Dad, whose birthday pecan pie is in the oven right now.) — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 I suspect being picky about everything IS more important for those of us (including me) who have more issues than just straight IBS/IBD/UC etc. However, I will say that it doesn't seem to be a problem for me. My DH seems to have a stainless steel gut, he eats sparingly of pretty much whatever he wants and almost never has digestive issues. So, there is gluten, sugar, starchy stuff all over the place around here. But I feel we maintain relatively sanitary (very clean, anyhow) kitchen practices and I just don't feel I get cross-contamination. We wash the pots thoroughly and nobody is ever going to convince me not to rinse dishes before putting them in the dishwasher, so unless some illegal manages to walk across the counter into my food, it just doesn't seem to be a problem. But I can only speak for myself, of course. It's far more important for celiac people and maybe people with MCS than for people with regular IBD issues. Mara > I hope it's not too big an issue, because I live in a non-SCD household. I probably get traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is big on eating toast and crackers, but not big on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves all over the kitchen. And I know that most of the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD have since been used for non-SCD foods (like pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I try not to think about it too much :-(. > > Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 any appliances that are glutened we SCD'ers just put foil in to use or have our own and I literally - picture this won't you? go hand and knee on my floor with a piece of foil to make the gluten sandwiches - ok stop laughing at me - it keeps the gluten away and the gluten folk happy - also jars spices etc are marked SCD, GF or gluten etc eileen 2years 5 months scd son 9 months scd > > I hope it's not too big an issue, because I > > live in a non-SCD household. I probably get > > traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is > > big on eating toast and crackers, but not big > > on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves > > all over the kitchen. And I know that most of > > the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD > > have since been used for non-SCD foods (like > > pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I > > try not to think about it too much :-(. > > It all depends on you. People who specifically > have a celiac diagnosis need to be extra careful > about gluten, since celiac was redefined when > Modern Medicine abandoned the Haas Diet (aka SCD) > as being gluten sensitive. They just skipped over > all the folks who had other kinds of disorders. > > And yes, I understand the crumbs. Harry's one > non-SCD indulgence in the house is whole wheat > bread for his sandwiches and his toast. I had to > smack him for getting crumbs in the butter. > > I don't guess threatening your Dad with a wooden > spoon would work, would it? (I know it wouldn't > work with MY Dad, whose birthday pecan pie is in the oven right now.) > > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Babette the Foundling Beagle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 There are some subjects that are no longer broachable with my father if I don't want him flying off the handle, and anything to do with food is one. Of course, if I was holding a wooden spoon in my hand, perhaps it would go differently ;-). I finally started keeping a separate butter hidden in the fridge. But crumbs on the counter / table/ placemats / etc. are just reality here. I've never know such a messy eater! It's easy to tell where he's been sitting. Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > I hope it's not too big an issue, because I > > live in a non-SCD household. I probably get > > traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is > > big on eating toast and crackers, but not big > > on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves > > all over the kitchen. And I know that most of > > the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD > > have since been used for non-SCD foods (like > > pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I > > try not to think about it too much :-(. > > It all depends on you. People who specifically > have a celiac diagnosis need to be extra careful > about gluten, since celiac was redefined when > Modern Medicine abandoned the Haas Diet (aka SCD) > as being gluten sensitive. They just skipped over > all the folks who had other kinds of disorders. > > And yes, I understand the crumbs. Harry's one > non-SCD indulgence in the house is whole wheat > bread for his sandwiches and his toast. I had to > smack him for getting crumbs in the butter. > > I don't guess threatening your Dad with a wooden > spoon would work, would it? (I know it wouldn't > work with MY Dad, whose birthday pecan pie is in the oven right now.) > > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Babette the Foundling Beagle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 , will the following article convince you not to pre-wash your dishes ;-) http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/should-you-pre-rinse-your-dishes-before-loadi\ ng-the-dishwasher-1677291/ Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > I hope it's not too big an issue, because I live in a non-SCD > household. I probably get traces of gluten everyday, because my dad > is big on eating toast and crackers, but not big on cleaning up the > mountain of crumbs he leaves all over the kitchen. And I know that > most of the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD have since been > used for non-SCD foods (like pizza being warmed on my neat little > silpat). I try not to think about it too much :-(. > > > > Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 > I literally - picture this won't you? go hand and knee on my floor with a piece of foil to make the gluten sandwiches - ok stop laughing at me -Hehe, thank you, this makes me feel better about the semi-ridiculous things I have to do to avoid problems with my chemical and bacteria etc. sensitivities. ...reminds me also of my rugby days freshman year. I was a rugby playing, short statured, lightweight, vegan, girl, who did not drink. I was constantly getting guff from the frat boys who lived on my floor in the dorm. 'Surely I'm tougher than you!' lots of boys pulled this on me, including someone who was trying to learn capaoela and wanted to prove to himself his capabilities against me in combat. One night drunken tall frat boy (who we called " Rube " ..) across the hall stepped up his I'm tougher than you. I don't how, but it escalated/degraded until the peanut butter sandwich I was making that he asked me for (I was always eating them and happy to share) was being made on the visibly dirty, carpeted floor, along with one for me. we ate them. the next day, I brought it up to him. He was disturbed. he had been so drunk, he didn't realize what he was doing, and then forgotten about it. He would never have done it sober... I learned a good lesson that day about getting into a " who's tougher " or " how tough are you " situation with anyone who's been drinking..... on reflection, that might have also been how I caught my first parasite.....at least the football players respected me ;)best wishes!! any appliances that are glutened we SCD'ers just put foil in to use or have our own and I literally - picture this won't you? go hand and knee on my floor with a piece of foil to make the gluten sandwiches - ok stop laughing at me - it keeps the gluten away and the gluten folk happy - also jars spices etc are marked SCD, GF or gluten etc eileen 2years 5 months scd son 9 months scd > > I hope it's not too big an issue, because I > > live in a non-SCD household. I probably get > > traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is > > big on eating toast and crackers, but not big > > on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves > > all over the kitchen. And I know that most of > > the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD > > have since been used for non-SCD foods (like > > pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I > > try not to think about it too much :-(. > > It all depends on you. People who specifically > have a celiac diagnosis need to be extra careful > about gluten, since celiac was redefined when > Modern Medicine abandoned the Haas Diet (aka SCD) > as being gluten sensitive. They just skipped over > all the folks who had other kinds of disorders. > > And yes, I understand the crumbs. Harry's one > non-SCD indulgence in the house is whole wheat > bread for his sandwiches and his toast. I had to > smack him for getting crumbs in the butter. > > I don't guess threatening your Dad with a wooden > spoon would work, would it? (I know it wouldn't > work with MY Dad, whose birthday pecan pie is in the oven right now.) > > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Babette the Foundling Beagle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 LOL!!! eileen > > > > I hope it's not too big an issue, because I > > > > live in a non-SCD household. I probably get > > > > traces of gluten everyday, because my dad is > > > > big on eating toast and crackers, but not big > > > > on cleaning up the mountain of crumbs he leaves > > > > all over the kitchen. And I know that most of > > > > the kitchen items I bought when I started SCD > > > > have since been used for non-SCD foods (like > > > > pizza being warmed on my neat little silpat). I > > > > try not to think about it too much :-(. > > > > > > It all depends on you. People who specifically > > > have a celiac diagnosis need to be extra careful > > > about gluten, since celiac was redefined when > > > Modern Medicine abandoned the Haas Diet (aka SCD) > > > as being gluten sensitive. They just skipped over > > > all the folks who had other kinds of disorders. > > > > > > And yes, I understand the crumbs. Harry's one > > > non-SCD indulgence in the house is whole wheat > > > bread for his sandwiches and his toast. I had to > > > smack him for getting crumbs in the butter. > > > > > > I don't guess threatening your Dad with a wooden > > > spoon would work, would it? (I know it wouldn't > > > work with MY Dad, whose birthday pecan pie is in the oven right now.) > > > > > > > > > > > > — Marilyn > > > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > > > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > > > Darn Good SCD Cook > > > No Human Children > > > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > > > Babette the Foundling Beagle > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Hi Holly, Interesting article and I thank you for it, but nope, I don't think it will convince me. I certainly understand their point about modern dishwashers being very good, and ours is fairly new. But, it's fine until it gets to the part about saying you should use the rinse cycle if you aren't washing the dishes immediately. Well, there are only two of us here unless (infrequently) we have guests, so the dishwasher only gets used every two days. That would be a lot of rinse cycles and I find it hard to believe that doesn't use more water than a quick rinse. I'm not a fanatic about it. And I admit, if I AM going to run it right after the current meal I don't rinse very well. I doubt it takes more than 30 seconds to rinse two plates, two small plates and 2 glasses and I'm sure the rinse cycle would run longer than that! That's interesting about etching glasses but we don't have that problem with the water where we are. Don's folks retired to FL, though, and their glasses always looked totally cloudy from the etching of the water. But OK, I promise, I will consider being sloppier about rinsing! , will the following article convince you not to pre-wash your dishes ;-) http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/should-you-pre-rinse-your-dishes-before-loading-the-dishwasher-1677291/ Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 Went to a celiac meeting to see if learn something useful and they spoke of contanimation, having to scrub cutting boards but never getting them clean, but could eat 175 tubes of lipstick before got the government legal limit of gluten for a celiac. like you wouldnt get sick or die first. but really if there is enough on a wellscrubed breadboard you wonder about other stuff. Also they mentioned the new compostable eating utensials that are made of various plant matter and some being wheat! DOnt know if that might be a problem in this case. Would taking the gluten enzymes that several companies now have out? Though recall reading on I think it was glutensenstivity.net that some poeple who try removing wheat act worse(as though go thru withdrawals - my son did that when tried removing from whole family once ). Good luck in finding and dealing with the source! > > > Hi Holly, > Interesting article and I thank you for it, but nope, I don't think > it will convince me. I certainly understand their point about modern > dishwashers being very good, and ours is fairly new. But, it's fine > until it gets to the part about saying you should use the rinse cycle > if you aren't washing the dishes immediately. Well, there are only > two of us here unless (infrequently) we have guests, so the > dishwasher only gets used every two days. That would be a lot of > rinse cycles and I find it hard to believe that doesn't use more > water than a quick rinse. I'm not a fanatic about it. And I admit, if > I AM going to run it right after the current meal I don't rinse very > well. I doubt it takes more than 30 seconds to rinse two plates, two > small plates and 2 glasses and I'm sure the rinse cycle would run > longer than that! That's interesting about etching glasses but we > don't have that problem with the water where we are. Don's folks > retired to FL, though, and their glasses always looked totally cloudy > from the etching of the water. > > But OK, I promise, I will consider being sloppier about rinsing! > > > , will the following article convince you not to pre-wash your dishes ;-) > > <http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/should-you-pre-rinse-your-dishes-before-load\ ing-the-dishwasher-1677291/>http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/should-you-pre-ri\ nse-your-dishes-before-loading-the-dishwasher-1677291/ > Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2010 Report Share Posted June 20, 2010 At 02:06 AM 6/20/2010, you wrote: There are some subjects that are no longer broachable with my father if I don't want him flying off the handle, and anything to do with food is one. Of course, if I was holding a wooden spoon in my hand, perhaps it would go differently ;-). I finally started keeping a separate butter hidden in the fridge. But crumbs on the counter / table/ placemats / etc. are just reality here. I've never know such a messy eater! It's easy to tell where he's been sitting. Yeah, I understand where you're coming from -- and I had some of the same hassles when I was living at home. Heck, I had some of the same hassles when I started SCD, and I'd been married 25 years at that point. Some folks don't WANT to understand.... — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Babette the Foundling Beagle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2010 Report Share Posted June 21, 2010 My mom said they very same thing about the rinse cycle! How can that possibly use less water? Holly Crohn's SCD 12/01/08 > > > Hi Holly, > Interesting article and I thank you for it, but nope, I don't think > it will convince me. I certainly understand their point about modern > dishwashers being very good, and ours is fairly new. But, it's fine > until it gets to the part about saying you should use the rinse cycle > if you aren't washing the dishes immediately. Well, there are only > two of us here unless (infrequently) we have guests, so the > dishwasher only gets used every two days. That would be a lot of > rinse cycles and I find it hard to believe that doesn't use more > water than a quick rinse. I'm not a fanatic about it. And I admit, if > I AM going to run it right after the current meal I don't rinse very > well. I doubt it takes more than 30 seconds to rinse two plates, two > small plates and 2 glasses and I'm sure the rinse cycle would run > longer than that! That's interesting about etching glasses but we > don't have that problem with the water where we are. Don's folks > retired to FL, though, and their glasses always looked totally cloudy > from the etching of the water. > > But OK, I promise, I will consider being sloppier about rinsing! > > > , will the following article convince you not to pre-wash your dishes ;-) > > <http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/should-you-pre-rinse-your-dishes-before-load\ ing-the-dishwasher-1677291/>http://shine.yahoo.com/event/green/should-you-pre-ri\ nse-your-dishes-before-loading-the-dishwasher-1677291/ > Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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