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It is SO interesting to hear how others are managing their " diets " etc. post

wls, and just illustrates our individuality in that what works for one may not

work for another. Not only do I applaud anyone who has figured out what

works for them, but I envy them that they have. I am still working on this!

When I analyze it, I think I was a " volume " eater, or to my way of defining

it, a binge eater, during the day (I regularly fasted till about 3 PM in my

futile attempts at " dieting " ) at which time hunger would set off an eating

frenzy, then generally at night the grazing would start. So I guess I was

doubly

screwed! LOL! I can remember this behavior starting as far back as 7th

grade for me, where I would not eat a thing till I got home from school at

around

3:30 PM or 4PM, at which time I was understandably ravenous. Patterns sure

got set, didn't they? So now, while I have addressed the daytime fasting

issue by having regularly intervaled breakfasts and lunchs, I am still trying

to deal with the nightime grazing. Grazing at night is not a hunger issue

(usually) for me, except during certain hormonally driven times of the month

-- it is a head issue.

From everything I have been reading lately, particularly regarding

food-induced insulin spikes and glycemic index/load etc., what you are doing by

having

regularly intervalled intakes of food is exactly what is now being recommended

to maintain an even insulin level, particularly for people who have metabolic

syndrome as you do. While metabolic syndrome is not regarded as being

particularly prevalent in the general population (as to numbers), I wouldn't be

surprised if such is not the case in our community. I know I don't have it,

cause I never had the high levels of triglycerides that is an indicator of the

syndrome. BUT I have noticed I do well anyway when I avoid simple sugars.

What is so interesting is that you have found you need to avoid both simple

sugars and milk, yet you indicate you are able to handle pasta, by which I

assume you mean conventional " white " pasta (???) versus whole wheat variety,

which

is usually not recommended for carbohydrate sensitive people. No white

bread, no white pasta, no white spuds, you know the drill. According to the

research, white bread/white pasta/white potato all spike the insulin very

similarly to how simple sugar would, thereby setting off hunger soon thereafter.

Maybe your saving grace is that apparently you are eating small quantities when

you do eat. According to what I have read, as far as their glycemic index

values, foods tested are done so in large quantities not normally ingested at

one time (but then again, these scientists have never seen ME pack away a pound

of pasta -- pre WLS of course! LOL!). That's why it's somewhat misleading,

scientifically, to caution people to avoid eating carrots and beets, as they

have high GI values (when eaten in the tested quantities), yet there are people

who feel better when these foods are avoided. Then again, maybe all the

protein you ingest is blunting the effects to you of the pasta spike --

effecting it's glycemic load. I have read that one can reduce the GL of (for

instance) beets just by dousing them in vinegar. All this really fascinates

me:

on Atkins it would be a mortal sin to eat beans (high carb), but on South

Beach, you can eat them from day one. SB pays a bit more attention to the GI

than does Atkins, as beans are low GI offenders. (Besides the GI wasn't

*known* when Atkins formulated his diet way back in the day.) Very similarly

to

your diet, SB says NO to simple sugars and dairy (milk/yogurt) on level one, yet

they also prohibit carrots and beets on that level too! It's funny when

you think that on Atkins, the taboo ingredient in something like Fettucine

Alfredo (otherwise known as " The Heart Attack On A Plate " ) is the pasta, NOT the

cheese/butter/heavy cream. Just from my point of view, it seems more

reasonable to me that SB would discourage the high fat ingredients (as well as

the

pasta at least initially), but it encourages participants to eat as much leafy

greens as they want. Yet Atkins works (at least temporarily) for alot of

people.

Oh well -- I do obsess on! Anyway, I am happy for you and anyone who has

" figured it out " for themselves, which inspires me to hope that someday,

someway, somehow (!!), I will solve my own dietary mysteries.

Lucille

In a message dated 10/6/2003 8:04:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

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> Message: 21

> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2003 00:42:29 -0700

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> Subject: Re: Re:grazing for Vitalady?

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> Yes, you are SO right. I have seen people graze their way back to full size

> on healthy food. I also was heavy on steamed broc & salad. But VOLUME and

> grazing definitely makes up for pouch size.

>

> I guess I was lucky I was not a grazer before. As it was, I had to learn to

> eat many smalls vs one huge one. It would scare you hear what this presently

> small body could put away in one setting. Scares ME and I lived it.

>

>

> Thanks,

>

>

> Vitalady, Inc. T

> www.vitalady.com

>

> If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

> https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com

>

> Re:grazing for Vitalady?

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>

> > Just curious about this: you don't consider those 6 protein shakes

> (which

> > I infer are in addition to your 4 small meals) as grazing? How so?

> >

> > Lucille

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I had the same tendencies. Naturally, it is part of our disease. But in my

late 20's, I read that I would lose wt if I never ate after 6pm or 3pm. For

years I did not eat solid food after 3pm. I didn't lose, but I didn't gain.

And forever & ever, no food after 6pm. Still today, I feel guilty eating

after 6. Funny, huh?

Thanks,

Vitalady, Inc. T

www.vitalady.com

If you are interested in PayPal, please click here:

https://www.paypal.com/affil/pal=orders%40vitalady.com

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> > > Just curious about this: you don't consider those 6 protein shakes

> > (which

> > > I infer are in addition to your 4 small meals) as grazing? How so?

> > >

> > > Lucille

> >

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