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Hi Meaghan-

Several people on the list have written about antibiotics triggering a flare. Is

this the first time you have taken the probiotics? Blood/liquid/urgency sounds

like a flare. Do you use any medication?

I would go back to intro with lots of soups and do whatever you need to to get

better: intro-stage 1 foods, medication if necessary. Don't let the bleeding and

D get out of hand or go on too long.

PJ

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> Hello all,

> I had been doing well for a while.. A few months ago I had to take some

antibiotics and that messed me up alittle so I was taking cort enemas which

usually help alot after a couple weeks then I slowly go off them, from every

night to every other, every third and so on. I was at the point of every other

night fir about a week. BUT on Friday I started feeling worse and my BM's got

worse progressively since then. Now I'm having basically only blood and liquid

with urgency/frequency. I didn't eat anything out of the ordinary (I don't think

anyway). I have started taking legal acidophilus and s.boulgari (sp?) about 2-3

wks ago. Does this sound like die off from the probiotics? Could that happen?

Ive been on the diet about a year and a half. Maybe its a good old fashioned

flare? Not sure what to do...

> Thanks in advance,

> Meaghan

>

> Sent from my iPhone

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I don't generally associate bleeding with a die-off reaction; if we

were laying bets, I'd say flare. Its possible that the probiotics are

not agreeing with you; being a legal supplement is no guarantee that

the thousands of existing strains already living in your guts will

like these new friends you're introducing. I respond really well to

bifidus, which is not recommended but my body seems to like it so you

can never tell what your intestinal ecosystem needs given how little

we know about how all these different bacteria interact. You might

try a supplement that's just acidiophilus, if you can find it, or if

you're tolerating the yogourt okay, you might skip the supplement

altogether until you're stable again. I make a habit of never

introducing a new probiotic unless I'm very stable because it can be

such a gamble.

fiona

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>

>

> Hello all,

> I had been doing well for a while.. A few months ago I had to take some

antibiotics and that messed me up alittle so I was taking cort enemas which

usually help alot after a couple weeks then I slowly go off them, from every

night to every other, every third and so on. I was at the point of every other

night fir about a week. BUT on Friday I started feeling worse and my BM's got

worse progressively since then. Now I'm having basically only blood and liquid

with urgency/frequency. I didn't eat anything out of the ordinary (I don't think

anyway). I have started taking legal acidophilus and s.boulgari (sp?) about 2-3

wks ago. Does this sound like die off from the probiotics? Could that happen?

Ive been on the diet about a year and a half. Maybe its a good old fashioned

flare? Not sure what to do...

> Thanks in advance,

> Meaghan

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

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Thanks for your responses. I have been doing intro/stage 1 (mostly) the past

couple days, stopped the probiotics, and am taking asacol (4/3x) and the cort

enemas. The bleeding is better but still all liquid.

Pre SCD I felt I was basically always in a flare, and now there a distinction

between a flare and remission, but I still get discouraged because I do still

have them and it's debilitating and makes my mood very grumpy.

Does anyone have any reccommendations for healing any further? I have not tried

LDN due to issues with my insurance and the doctor who will prescribe it. How

about vitamin E enemas, I heard those work for some?

I know this diet works, it's just been so slow for me and I'm sick and tried of

being sick and tired! I wish there was more I could do..

M

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It would be helpful to track the flares. Are they less frequent and less severe

or don't last as long? If so, then that is improvement. It seems that having

periods of remission when there were none before is also improvement.

PJ

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> Thanks for your responses. I have been doing intro/stage 1 (mostly) the past

couple days, stopped the probiotics, and am taking asacol (4/3x) and the cort

enemas. The bleeding is better but still all liquid.

> Pre SCD I felt I was basically always in a flare, and now there a distinction

between a flare and remission, but I still get discouraged because I do still

have them and it's debilitating and makes my mood very grumpy.

> Does anyone have any reccommendations for healing any further? I have not

tried LDN due to issues with my insurance and the doctor who will prescribe it.

How about vitamin E enemas, I heard those work for some?

> I know this diet works, it's just been so slow for me and I'm sick and tried

of being sick and tired! I wish there was more I could do..

> M

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

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