Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 On this topic- Maybe some people that have some websites want to D/L some info from Healing Crow and post to their own site? Like, " Wisdom from Healing Crow " and credit Seth and HC.. I think individual requests can be made to Seth directly and this would be an awesome way to preserve the vast amount of info. Seth's email; scd_crow33@... Jodi > > BTW, the healing crow website is closing down in a few days. There is a > certain amount of info preserved there - direct replies from Elaine on a > number of topics - I remember reading through it and learning a lot when > I was a newbie. So I suggest some of you take the time to go through > these Q & As while you still can: > > http://www.healingcrow.com/scdwisdom/LWscd/lwscd_37.html\\ > > > > > I just want to post this here with inf, because at times people here have > advised regular non-sensitive to probiotics people to start with 1/4 teaspoon or > less of yogurt. That was not Elaine's position: > > > > Subject: > > Yogurt Dosage > > > > Question: > > I ordered the Yogourmet from Lucy and can't wait to start making yogurt. Can anyone tell me how much yogurt should be eaten daily for optimum results? > > > > Elaine writes: > > You have to work up to find out about your own body. But the most common routine is to start with a half cup, next day a cup and work up to no more than 3 cups per day. Others can tell you that you can over do yogurt because it loads the bloodstream with a great deal of the monosaccharide GALACTOSE quickly and some people with IBD have livers that cannot convert the galactose quickly enough to glucose and therefore galactose builds up in the bloodstream just as glucose does in diabetics and can cause cataracts, etc. I certainly would not exceed 3 cups plus what you use in soups, etc. > > > > > And here's another one on vincomycin: > > Subject: > > Vancomycin > > > > Question: > > My GI has been experimenting with vancomycin on his IBD patients. He has had some remarkable success giving vanco to patients who were headed for surgery because standard IBD meds were not helping them. One of his patients was " cured " completely. He doesn't know why. This is a very controversial treatment and not one other GI at Mt. Sinai is prescribing vanco in that way. I know that Marla, whose doc worked out of the same office as mine, refused to let her try it. My doc prescribed 2 weeks of vancomycin for me, and then when I was almost finished it I practically begged him to give me another prescription. He let me take it for 2 more weeks and was amazed at how quickly my bowel healed. Of course, I was following the SCD too, at the time, and eating lots of yogurt. I wish he would collect dietary information from his patients who take the vanco. I bet the patients who do well on it have some things in common. > > > > Elaine writes: > > Fifteen years ago in the Dept. of Anatomy at Univ. of Western Ontario I spent a year working on UC. It was well known then that vancomycin and/or clindamycin were successfully used for Clostridium difficile colitis caused by antibotics. Of course vancomysin is an antibiotic . I had no idea it was so controversial. On page l5l of BTVC, I have a reference on C. difficile. On page l53 (references) ref. 38 is a 1976 Workshop on clindamycin colitis with Dr. Present being one of two editors. If I remember correctly, clindamycin and vancomycin have some kind of relationship. I just can't recall if clindamycin causes colitis and it is cured by vancomycin. But the point is that it has been worked on in the research community for decades. > > > > And here is Elaine talking about eating caraway seeds if you crave them: > > Subject: > > Missing Bread > > > > Question: > > I miss whole grain bread on this diet. > > > > Elaine writes: > > When it comes to missing the whole grain bread dipped in olive oil and garlic, perhaps one of Lucy's bread recipes dipped in olive oil and garlic will do the trick. > > I remember Judy missing rye bread before we had a bread recipe. I was too dumb to leave the honey out of the muffins and experiment. She would go around with caraway seeds and salt in her palm licking them it for an hour at a time. And if this satisfies any of you, go to the caraway seeds and pay no attention to my warnings about seeds. I wrote that in case someone with diverticulitis was told to avoid nuts and saw my ground -up almond recipes and used them and got sick and I got sued, I would be blamed so I wrote it defensively. I still worry about mainstream advice like that being contradictory to SCD. Dr. Truss got in trouble with his mentioning an " all-meat diet " and the low cholesterol advice > > > > > > And here's some that surprised me about the pectin in stonyfield organic yogurt being okay. I don't know if she later changed her mind about that, but evidently at this point, she thought it was good to use: > > Subject: > > Stonyfield Yogurt - Pectin > > > > Question: > > I started to use Stonyfield yogurt as a starter and then noticed it has pectin. Can I still use it? > > > > Elaine writes: > > We have had a lot of discussion on Stonyfield lately which you may have missed. Perhaps someone has saved it and can send it to you. But it is recommended highly even with the little pectin you will be using for a starter. The added pectin to jams and jellies is considerably more than what is in the little yogurt you will use as a starter. Welcome and good luck, Elaine > > > > > > > > > > > > Mara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Mara, How are some people supposed to know if they are sensitive enough especially while going through a flare? I believe Elaine tirelessly addressed people directly but some of her more " public " type info is geared twds the masses or is generalized info. Also, there is not nearly enough info about probiotic supplements IMO. Jodi > > BTW, the healing crow website is closing down in a few days. There is a > certain amount of info preserved there - direct replies from Elaine on a > number of topics - I remember reading through it and learning a lot when > I was a newbie. So I suggest some of you take the time to go through > these Q & As while you still can: > > http://www.healingcrow.com/scdwisdom/LWscd/lwscd_37.html\\ > > > > > I just want to post this here with inf, because at times people here have > advised regular non-sensitive to probiotics people to start with 1/4 teaspoon or > less of yogurt. That was not Elaine's position: > > > > Subject: > > Yogurt Dosage > > > > Question: > > I ordered the Yogourmet from Lucy and can't wait to start making yogurt. Can anyone tell me how much yogurt should be eaten daily for optimum results? > > > > Elaine writes: > > You have to work up to find out about your own body. But the most common routine is to start with a half cup, next day a cup and work up to no more than 3 cups per day. Others can tell you that you can over do yogurt because it loads the bloodstream with a great deal of the monosaccharide GALACTOSE quickly and some people with IBD have livers that cannot convert the galactose quickly enough to glucose and therefore galactose builds up in the bloodstream just as glucose does in diabetics and can cause cataracts, etc. I certainly would not exceed 3 cups plus what you use in soups, etc. > > > > > And here's another one on vincomycin: > > Subject: > > Vancomycin > > > > Question: > > My GI has been experimenting with vancomycin on his IBD patients. He has had some remarkable success giving vanco to patients who were headed for surgery because standard IBD meds were not helping them. One of his patients was " cured " completely. He doesn't know why. This is a very controversial treatment and not one other GI at Mt. Sinai is prescribing vanco in that way. I know that Marla, whose doc worked out of the same office as mine, refused to let her try it. My doc prescribed 2 weeks of vancomycin for me, and then when I was almost finished it I practically begged him to give me another prescription. He let me take it for 2 more weeks and was amazed at how quickly my bowel healed. Of course, I was following the SCD too, at the time, and eating lots of yogurt. I wish he would collect dietary information from his patients who take the vanco. I bet the patients who do well on it have some things in common. > > > > Elaine writes: > > Fifteen years ago in the Dept. of Anatomy at Univ. of Western Ontario I spent a year working on UC. It was well known then that vancomycin and/or clindamycin were successfully used for Clostridium difficile colitis caused by antibotics. Of course vancomysin is an antibiotic . I had no idea it was so controversial. On page l5l of BTVC, I have a reference on C. difficile. On page l53 (references) ref. 38 is a 1976 Workshop on clindamycin colitis with Dr. Present being one of two editors. If I remember correctly, clindamycin and vancomycin have some kind of relationship. I just can't recall if clindamycin causes colitis and it is cured by vancomycin. But the point is that it has been worked on in the research community for decades. > > > > And here is Elaine talking about eating caraway seeds if you crave them: > > Subject: > > Missing Bread > > > > Question: > > I miss whole grain bread on this diet. > > > > Elaine writes: > > When it comes to missing the whole grain bread dipped in olive oil and garlic, perhaps one of Lucy's bread recipes dipped in olive oil and garlic will do the trick. > > I remember Judy missing rye bread before we had a bread recipe. I was too dumb to leave the honey out of the muffins and experiment. She would go around with caraway seeds and salt in her palm licking them it for an hour at a time. And if this satisfies any of you, go to the caraway seeds and pay no attention to my warnings about seeds. I wrote that in case someone with diverticulitis was told to avoid nuts and saw my ground -up almond recipes and used them and got sick and I got sued, I would be blamed so I wrote it defensively. I still worry about mainstream advice like that being contradictory to SCD. Dr. Truss got in trouble with his mentioning an " all-meat diet " and the low cholesterol advice > > > > > > And here's some that surprised me about the pectin in stonyfield organic yogurt being okay. I don't know if she later changed her mind about that, but evidently at this point, she thought it was good to use: > > Subject: > > Stonyfield Yogurt - Pectin > > > > Question: > > I started to use Stonyfield yogurt as a starter and then noticed it has pectin. Can I still use it? > > > > Elaine writes: > > We have had a lot of discussion on Stonyfield lately which you may have missed. Perhaps someone has saved it and can send it to you. But it is recommended highly even with the little pectin you will be using for a starter. The added pectin to jams and jellies is considerably more than what is in the little yogurt you will use as a starter. Welcome and good luck, Elaine > > > > > > > > > > > > Mara > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 More Elaine at Healing Crow website:Subject:36 hour yogurt Question:I left my yogurt on for 36 hours and loved the taste. Is it okay? Elaine writes:I cannot imagine why 36 hour yogurt would be anything but lactose free. The only thing I can think of is that it might get moldy a bit sooner even if refrigerated. Whereas yogurt generally stay good refrigerated 6-7 days, this may not more than 5-6 days.Elaine on 6MP:Subject:6MP purinethol Question:What do you know about purinethol? Elaine writes:In biochemistry, purines and pyrimdines make up DNA. In other words, in order for our cells (intestinal cells to replace themselves as well as white blood cell to protect us, there is a need for purines and pyrimidines. They make up the 4 backbones of DNA. I think these immune suppressors like 6MP are attached to an atom which makes them "counterfeit" and fools all cells into trying to pick up the needed purines in order to multiply and by so doing stops them from replicating. That means that the immune system cannot supply white blood cells like macrophages, lymphocytes and plasma cells that make antibodies. That would stop the body's autoimmune reaction but would have other effects.On diet, arthritis and gut issues and beneficial qualities of azulfidine:Subject:Dr. Ebringer - London AS Diet Question:What do you know about the London AS Diet? Elaine writes:To AllThis is Chapter 2 of my trying to get to you some contradictions to a few things we have seen of late: (l) the Starch Free Diet book which Ebringer is supposed to be using but I doubt if he is and (2) what specialist researchers are saying about the two drugs: 5-amino salicyclic acid )Asacol and pentasa) and Salzopyrene or Azulfidine which CCFA list under the heading of 5-amino salicylic acid and which I think is absolutey confusing and wrong. As a result of reading Probiotics I found in the med library a complete issue of Bailliere's CLINICAL RHEUMATOLOGY - Internation Practic and Research, Vol. 3/Number 2 devoted to THE GUT AND RHEUMATIC DISEASE. Doctor P .J. Rooseny of Canad's McMaster Health Center in Hamilton chaired the meeting where 7 different countries were represented. In the foreward Dr. Rooney starts by saying: “Why would rheumatologists and immunologists concern themselves with the murky depths of the gastrointestinal tract?” He goes on and ends the Foreward by saying: “The clinical phenomena which highlight gut/joint interactions are explored in the next few chapters and the relationship between the drugs used in the therapy of rheumatic diseases and the gut is reviewed in the final two chapters of the volume.And old proverb states that ‘diet cures more than doctors.’ Perhaps this will again prove to be true when our knowledge of this exciting area of rheumatic disease research is more complete.|”_____________ Although the treatment of killing B cells which make antibodies sounds like something new, the theory of autoimmunity is rather old and Dr. Ebringer of Middlesex Hospital in London UK has worked on this along with the involvement of bacterial overgrowth in the gut for years. Dr. Ebringer appears to be using a restricted carb diet like SCD. Do you know how Dr. Ebringer first saw the connection betweenarthritis and gut diseases? He was using azulfidine for the gut problem of his patients and realized that the arthritis was improving. He knew the biochemistry of azulfidine: that one part of the molecule keeps bacteria from reproducing and finally traced both diseases to gut bacteria.______________ I periodcally read my compendium of articles from Clinical Rhematology, August, 1989 and will again. But there are lengthy reports that I remember thusly: The NSAIDS which contain the aspirin-like compounds were causing gut problems. So, when Dr. Ebringer started his research, he tried azulfidine for a few patients with gut problems and found that the arthritis improved. I see it as the azulfidine which works on the theory that UC and Crohns is microbially caused is more efficacious than the 5-amino salicyclic which works on inhibiting harmful prostaglandins and then resulting in less inflammation.______________I do not know where you live but if UK you have a leading rheumatologist. Dr. Alan Ebringer at Middlesex Hospital in London, who has worked diligently for many years showing how the arthritis is related to the gastrointestinal problems. He developed a hypothesis which shows something called "molecular mimicry" whereby (in an effort by the immune system) the immune system tries to get rid of the overgrowth in the gut and in that way, the antibodies get into the synovial membranes between joints and cause rheumatoid arthritis. He has used a diet which is identical to SCD and has cured them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 So, is Stoneyfield plain yogurt with pectin OK? If so, should we consider Stoneyfield advanced if we do use it? Sometimes I can't find Danon for my starter because the supermarket only has the lowfat versions with illegals. Thanks, Misty Kimble CD - no meds SCD - Jan 2008 > Subject: > > Stonyfield Yogurt - Pectin > Question: > > I started to use Stonyfield yogurt as a starter and then noticed it has pectin. Can I still use it? > > Elaine writes: > > We have had a lot of discussion on Stonyfield lately which you may have missed. Perhaps someone has saved it and can send it to you. But it is recommended highly even with the little pectin you will be using for a starter. The added pectin to jams and jellies is considerably more than what is in the little yogurt you will use as a starter. Welcome and good luck, Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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