Re: You look like a totally different person...

[Guest guest]

Sadly, most people " see " others mostly in terms of what's directly

visible. That's how we humans relate to each other, unless we take the

time to get to know what's beyond skin deep. Honestly, I HOPE I have

your problem -- but yeah, I could see how it would get old. Hang in

there, they'll adapt. Eventually. L

> Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say to

> me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my god,

> it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and maybe

> they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they would

> bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I am not a

> different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something wrong

> with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked hard in

> the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I don't

> think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is the

> same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no Aniston

> or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

>

> Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next person that

> says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to me I'll

> say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain with a

> serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go being

> bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and fangs

> now.

>

> Nite.

> Sara

[Guest guest]

Sara, baby... Try being fat -- and losing 100+ pounds. And gaining

it back again.

Sample comments:

From a person I'd known only because he was jogging along on my

walking path: " You get my vote for the most improved woman on the

path. "

Hell-loh?? He meant well, but what's he gonna say now that I've

gained it back, and if I start walking again? " You're the one who's

regressed the most? "

Another: " Geez. Is that you, Cammie? I didn't know you? "

Hell-loh? My heart, soul and spirit are the same... So I'm to be

congratulated for looking different???

Or, when I'd gained it back, from the young child of a dear

friend: " Mamma, She's gonna have a baby! " Mamma: " No, dear. " " Child:

Yes, Mamma, she is! "

It's dumb, OK? It's always dumb to make personal remarks, I think,

especially about appearance. Classic instance: In Dear Abby today,

the writer of the column confessed to having been told that a woman

friend was expecting a baby (or twins, I forget) in four months, and

congratulating her on how well (translate: slender) she looked, only

to be told, " Thanks. We're using a surrogate. "

Another instance: When I was 20, and married to a man of 44, a

shopkeeper asked, shortly before Father's Day: " Is that your daddy,

honey? " My husband always adored that I'd answered the woman, " No. "

With no further explanation. Frustrated the heck out of her.

Try not to let it bug you. That's the only solution I can offer. You

are the person you are, not the person you appear to be. I think

the sad, sad case of Marilyn Monroe (not that I appear to be her at

all, thank heavens!) is one of the better evidences of the fact.

Cammie

> > Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say to

> > me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my

god,

> > it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and maybe

> > they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they would

> > bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I am

not a

> > different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something

wrong

> > with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked

hard in

> > the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> > different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I

don't

> > think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is

the

> > same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> > importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> > besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no

Aniston

> > or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

> >

> > Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next person

that

> > says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to me

I'll

> > say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain

with a

> > serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go being

> > bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and

fangs

> > now.

> >

> > Nite.

> > Sara

[Guest guest]

ah Sara you sound so down and you're really been great with lifting

everyone else up on this site.

Yes you look different but that's because your mouth is forced shut

and you can't have a big old smile on your face. I would imagine

your a very 'smiley' person naturally like myself so the minute you

aren't smiling people jump to whats wrong...or in your case wow

don't you look different?

I think your profile looks great and you look really well,

considering having surgery. Ahh please don't let it get you down

too much. I have to say though i am at the end of my patience too,

if one more person says to me 'don't worry about the brace on your

wedding day, no one will notice it' i swear i'll rub their face in

it! Kids of 5yrs old notice it....so what when you're an adult

suddenly you're eyesight can't detect metal? Arghghgh. I know

they are only saying what they think it right, but if they put

themselves in YOUR shoes for a minute they just might understand how

annoying their comments are!!

big cuddle.

B

> Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say to

> me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my god,

> it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and maybe

> they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they would

> bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I am not

a

> different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something

wrong

> with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked hard

in

> the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I don't

> think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is the

> same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no Aniston

> or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

>

> Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next person

that

> says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to me

I'll

> say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain with

a

> serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go being

> bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and fangs

> now.

>

> Nite.

> Sara

[Guest guest]

Oh No, this sounds like a job for the caboose to cheer my Sara Girl

up!

Sara, I am sending big big tiger hugs to cheer you up! I love ya

just the way you are inside and out & that is all that counts! I am

sure others don't mean to offend you at all and of course there is

no way they could ever understand what we go through during this

entire long journey. I just heard this morning from a coworker

asking me why the heck would I want to put myself through something

like this when my teeth look fine. Like you, I just want to say

mind your own business. Then I have that little voice in the back

of my head that says, " , they have no way of understanding what

you are going through " .

So hang in there Sara, and please when feeling down always know we

are here for you anytime to tear that brick wall down for you! I am

going to get a bulldozer to tear it down for good this time for

you! So be ready, the sun is getting ready to shine when that wall

comes down!

Hugs to my fav buddy,

> Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say to

> me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my god,

> it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and maybe

> they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they would

> bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I am not

a

> different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something

wrong

> with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked hard

in

> the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I don't

> think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is the

> same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no Aniston

> or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

>

> Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next person

that

> says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to me

I'll

> say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain with

a

> serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go being

> bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and fangs

> now.

>

> Nite.

> Sara

[Guest guest]

Sara (and Cathy and everyone else) -

I think you look exactly the same...well...ok...I didn't know you much

before the surgery but to me you've never changed! I've only gotten

that once so far - and surprisingly from the secretary at the plastic

surgeon's office. It was something like " Wow - you have a whole new

face! " Gee, thanks. I guess some people just don't know what to say.

I just wanted to thank everyone, including Sara, Cathy, ,

for helping me through yesterday. I didn't really see it coming - but

then the depression just smacks you right in the brand-new-face

It's most difficult because it took me almost 20 years to look in the

mirror and say that I was pretty...and then it all went to crap 2

years ago when I went to get the fistula looked at. I had no real

idea that I had an underbite or that it mattered. I didn't know I had

a pancake shaped face. Once I heard it though - I began obessessing

about it. Sigh. I go to the plastic surgeon today for a second check

up. I actually want to talk to him about my nose since (and I think

someone else mentioned this) my septum seems to be curved since the

swelling went down. I went into this surgery knowing that I may need

additional nose stuff...and I know other people on the site have had

it...and today I'm feeling OK with it. I think I was most distraught

because Joey has been subsidizing my graduate school life style,

meanwhile giving me the fantastic engagement ring and *new-fabulous*

face...I just felt terrible even thinking about having any more

surgery that would incur any more expense. I talked to him about it

yesterday though - and his take was that doing this now would prevent

further problems down the road. That this was an investment in our

future and that it was OK. I really really love that guy )

OK - I need to get dressed to meet god now. What will I wear?!? Talk

to you later )

smiles (because you guys are the best!)

-becky

[Guest guest]

Hi Becky,

Glad we could help.

One of the downsides of this whole process is that you can easily

start to obsess about appearance. I would find myself looking at

other people, analysing their facial structure, thinking they could

use this or that procedure ....

Anyway, it does wear off eventually, thankfully, and hopefully

before it's taken you on a long ride through multiple surgeries in

quest of the perfect image.

Just imagine what the world would be like if there were no

television or mirrors? Without tv, we wouldn't be bombarded with so-

called perfection ( which isn't the norm) or quests for the same,

and without mirrors, we wouldn't be so obsessed with our own

appearances. We'd just get on with life.

> Sara (and Cathy and everyone else) -

>

> I think you look exactly the same...well...ok...I didn't know you

much

> before the surgery but to me you've never changed! I've only

gotten

> that once so far - and surprisingly from the secretary at the

plastic

> surgeon's office. It was something like " Wow - you have a whole

new

> face! " Gee, thanks. I guess some people just don't know what to

say.

>

> I just wanted to thank everyone, including Sara, Cathy, ,

> for helping me through yesterday. I didn't really see it coming -

but

> then the depression just smacks you right in the brand-new-face

> It's most difficult because it took me almost 20 years to look in

the

> mirror and say that I was pretty...and then it all went to crap 2

> years ago when I went to get the fistula looked at. I had no real

> idea that I had an underbite or that it mattered. I didn't know I

had

> a pancake shaped face. Once I heard it though - I began

obessessing

> about it. Sigh. I go to the plastic surgeon today for a second

check

> up. I actually want to talk to him about my nose since (and I

think

> someone else mentioned this) my septum seems to be curved since the

> swelling went down. I went into this surgery knowing that I may

need

> additional nose stuff...and I know other people on the site have

had

> it...and today I'm feeling OK with it. I think I was most

distraught

> because Joey has been subsidizing my graduate school life style,

> meanwhile giving me the fantastic engagement ring and *new-

fabulous*

> face...I just felt terrible even thinking about having any more

> surgery that would incur any more expense. I talked to him about

it

> yesterday though - and his take was that doing this now would

prevent

> further problems down the road. That this was an investment in our

> future and that it was OK. I really really love that guy )

>

> OK - I need to get dressed to meet god now. What will I wear?!?

Talk

> to you later )

>

> smiles (because you guys are the best!)

>

> -becky

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

I know that I am still just a lowly pre-oper . But, I really get

what you are saying in this post. What you are talking about is what

I am afraid of. Are people going to have such little respect for the

loss of my old face? Please let me know if I am on the same

wavelenghth as you. I know that a lot of our personality comes

through in the expression of our mouths. I can see how people might

be thrown by the change. But while I weant people to be happy for my

change, I also want to know that they liked and miss the face they

used to be familiar with. Also, I wonder if personality does stay

completely the same. When my mouth is finally in place, I will be

more willing to smile, and I will look more comfortable at rest

because my lips will not be straining to meet. I'm rambling I know,

but I just felt a glimmer of similarity between us. I don't know how

you are going to get people to stop telling you that you look like a

different person. This might be one of those things that you just

need to relax around, because alll you can change is your own

reaction to it. You are a wonderful person no matter what face you

have, Sara. Take care.

Fay

> Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say to

> me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my god,

> it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and maybe

> they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they would

> bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I am not

a

> different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something

wrong

> with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked hard

in

> the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I don't

> think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is the

> same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no Aniston

> or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

>

> Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next person

that

> says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to me

I'll

> say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain with

a

> serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go being

> bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and fangs

> now.

>

> Nite.

> Sara

[Guest guest]

Hi Everyone -

I've really liked this thread - it's a very important part of this whole

process. I wanted to say that while I am looking forward to my new look - I get

the feeling that my parents especially are mourning the possible loss/change of

my old one. They are supportive - but wary and a little sad that I might

suddenly loose the connection to other family members that they see on my face.

(Did I say that clearly ?)

I got teased A LOT in school ( buck-tooth etc) and I've been so ready for this

for a long time - so I'm ready. (come on Aug 15th!!!) But my family doesn't

always see the issue, they mean well - but they aren't in my shoes. Having been

through one big change in the last 2 years (lost 100+ lbs) I've gotten a hard

shell about being noticed - who knows, I might just become an attention junkie

and get me some more surgery after this. (just kidding)

take care all

Cyndy

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Hi , I have lived with my face for forty plus years, and

never really noticed or took time to truly scrutinize it. I was

told twenty years ago I needed this surgery but for many reasons

never followed through. Two years ago a comment by a few people

woke me up and got me really looking at my face. People noticed

(where I hadn't) that one side of my face was lopsided, and very

swollen. It was difficult to see myself the way other people could

see me. I have a severe overbite, and no chin. I was always a

mouth breather, had difficulty eating certain foods, ringing in the

ears, hearing loss, headaches etc...but lived with it. I was too

busy raising children to really look into it. The swollen issue

concerned me though. My bite was changing and getting worse as were

my symptoms . This began my journey on the road to this surgery.

I think it is great that you have a supportive fiance. We invest in

so many material things in our lives, why not in ourselves. It will

last a lifetime. Good luck, we will all be thinking of you!

Cathy

I -- In orthognathicsurgerysupport , " "

<rebwend@y...> wrote:

> Sara (and Cathy and everyone else) -

>

> I think you look exactly the same...well...ok...I didn't know you

much

> before the surgery but to me you've never changed! I've only

gotten

> that once so far - and surprisingly from the secretary at the

plastic

> surgeon's office. It was something like " Wow - you have a whole

new

> face! " Gee, thanks. I guess some people just don't know what to

say.

>

> I just wanted to thank everyone, including Sara, Cathy, ,

> for helping me through yesterday. I didn't really see it coming -

but

> then the depression just smacks you right in the brand-new-face

> It's most difficult because it took me almost 20 years to look in

the

> mirror and say that I was pretty...and then it all went to crap 2

> years ago when I went to get the fistula looked at. I had no real

> idea that I had an underbite or that it mattered. I didn't know I

had

> a pancake shaped face. Once I heard it though - I began

obessessing

> about it. Sigh. I go to the plastic surgeon today for a second

check

> up. I actually want to talk to him about my nose since (and I

think

> someone else mentioned this) my septum seems to be curved since the

> swelling went down. I went into this surgery knowing that I may

need

> additional nose stuff...and I know other people on the site have

had

> it...and today I'm feeling OK with it. I think I was most

distraught

> because Joey has been subsidizing my graduate school life style,

> meanwhile giving me the fantastic engagement ring and *new-

fabulous*

> face...I just felt terrible even thinking about having any more

> surgery that would incur any more expense. I talked to him about

it

> yesterday though - and his take was that doing this now would

prevent

> further problems down the road. That this was an investment in our

> future and that it was OK. I really really love that guy )

>

> OK - I need to get dressed to meet god now. What will I wear?!?

Talk

> to you later )

>

> smiles (because you guys are the best!)

>

> -becky

[Guest guest]

Oh, Sara! You absolutely MUST do that ... and then tell us all what

the person says back to you!

Feeling your pain and relating,

Carol

> Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say to

> me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my god,

> it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and maybe

> they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they would

> bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I am not

a

> different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something wrong

> with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked hard

in

> the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I don't

> think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is the

> same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no Aniston

> or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

>

> Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next person

that

> says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to me

I'll

> say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain with

a

> serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go being

> bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and fangs

> now.

>

> Nite.

> Sara

[Guest guest]

Cammie,

You are a VERY wise woman.

Just in case ya didn't know ... I wanted to be the one to tell ya!

Carol

> > > Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say to

> > > me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my

> god,

> > > it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and

maybe

> > > they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they

would

> > > bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I am

> not a

> > > different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something

> wrong

> > > with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked

> hard in

> > > the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> > > different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I

> don't

> > > think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is

> the

> > > same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> > > importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> > > besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no

> Aniston

> > > or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

> > >

> > > Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next person

> that

> > > says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to me

> I'll

> > > say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain

> with a

> > > serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go

being

> > > bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and

> fangs

> > > now.

> > >

> > > Nite.

> > > Sara

[Guest guest]

Hi Sara,

Okay, I am going to share something that I haven't on this board. I

had a facelift and eye work last year. My face at 50 had sagged

beyond reason, and my eyes were so baggy that the upper lids hid my

eyes to the point that it affected my vision. So I had a facelift.

I had the same thing from people. You look SOoooooooooooooooooooo

different! But really, I just looked more like me. The way I had

always looked before.

I think the same is true of you Sara. I mean, you are absolutely

right that your eyes are the same, and your hair is the same, and

your nose is the same, and that you are the same. But your jaw

didn't let the other features be the focus of your face. You looked

great before, but the whole relationship of those same features is

impacted by the way they work together better now. One feature

doesn't influence the proportion of the rest of your features. It

is the change in proportion that people are commenting on I think,

not that there was anything wrong with your features before. I

think you have a beautiful face. Before and after the surgery. But

now, the balance is present so that each feature can be viewed more

easily.

I do know what you mean though. I had " you look so much better "

right up to my eyeballs! lol But nearly a year later, I am more

able to be comfortable with the thought that yes, I do look better.

But it isn't because my features are any different, just the way

they work together is more pleasing. I still like the way I looked

before, but I have to admit, that I like the way I look now better.

It is still me, I haven't changed, but I still like it. What has

really changed is my self image, not me.

I don't know if this helps. But I wanted to share it with you. The

change can take a while to get used to yourself, and others noticing

it can make you feel that they feel differently about you too. I

don't think that is the case. But I think you will feel better

about the changes when you get used to the new way your features

work together. Time really does heal.

Hugs,

Fran

> Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say to

> me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my god,

> it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and maybe

> they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they would

> bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I am not

a

> different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something

wrong

> with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked hard

in

> the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I don't

> think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is the

> same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no Aniston

> or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

>

> Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next person

that

> says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to me

I'll

> say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain with

a

> serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go being

> bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and fangs

> now.

>

> Nite.

> Sara

[Guest guest]

Yes, Carol, you are SO right: Cammie, you're right on target. I'm

waiting to hear the stupid comments about my braces from some of the

stupid insensitive people in the lab where I work. I'm sure some

people will think I'm too old to go thru all this and will let me

know what they think. I'm thinking of fining those stupid people a

buck every time they open their stupid mouths and ask me why I'm in

braces. I think everyone who works in the lab KNOWS I have an

underbite, but some people will think it's their job to question my

choices and pass judjment. People can be so cruel! Well, thanks for

letting me vent. I hope my year and a half in braces goes smoothly;

my own dept. is VERY supportive. One of my co-workers who's in his

mid-thirties has had braces on for about a year, so we've decided to

start a " braces club " (just the two of us). He's been an inspiration

to me. ~~ Diane

> > > > Ok, I'm starting to get a little weary of hearing people say

to

> > > > me " Wow, you look like a totally different person " or " Oh my

> > god,

> > > > it's not you at all " . Maybe I'm being overly sensitive and

> maybe

> > > > they think they are paying me a compliment but I wish they

> would

> > > > bloody well stop. It is me and while I may look different I

am

> > not a

> > > > different person. What is wrong with people?! Or is something

> > wrong

> > > > with me for getting upset about this? The thing is, I looked

> > hard in

> > > > the mirror today and despite the fact that I do look slightly

> > > > different and I am still getting accustomed to the new me I

> > don't

> > > > think I look THAT DIFFERENT. My eyes are the same, my hair is

> > the

> > > > same, my nose is the same, my lips are the same and most

> > > > importantly, me, the person and personality is the same. And

> > > > besides, was the old me that bad? I know I was no

> > Aniston

> > > > or Brigitte Bardot but I kind of liked the old me.

> > > >

> > > > Sorry, needed to get this off my chest. I swear the next

person

> > that

> > > > says " oh my god you look like a totally different person " to

me

> > I'll

> > > > say to them " yeah, during surgery they also replaced my brain

> > with a

> > > > serial killer's " and see what they say. ooopps, there I go

> being

> > > > bitchy again. Sorry again folks. I'll put away my claws and

> > fangs

> > > > now.

> > > >

> > > > Nite.

> > > > Sara

[Guest guest]

Diane,

Well yay ... it's nice to be right once in a while.

Carol

> > > > Sadly, most people " see " others mostly in terms of what's

> directly

> > > > visible. That's how we humans relate to each other, unless we

> > take

> > > the

> > > > time to get to know what's beyond skin deep. Honestly, I HOPE

I

> > > have

> > > > your problem -- but yeah, I could see how it would get old.

> Hang

> > in

> > > > there, they'll adapt. Eventually. L