Re: My OD Consult Appointment

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Diane, Glad to hear all went well at the OD. That's great they estimate

only 12 mos. before surgery and 6 mos. after for the braces. I keep

hoping after my surgery that the time will be shorter than estimated (18

mos post surgery).

Shirley

[Guest guest]

> the other teeth.// The quote for the " records " (the xrays, pictures,

> and the molds) is $284 - I will have that done on Tuesday morning.

> The quote for the orthodontic treatment is $5080

Don't want to burst your bubble, but you realize the surgery cost is

probably separate from this? I had quite a rude shock when I realized

how much the surgery was vs. how much insurance paid. I ended up

putting treatment off for a year while I figured out how to pay for it.

Hope it all works out for you!

Luna

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diane -

i'm glad to hear your braces will be going on soon! i had brackets

attached to two porclein vaneers - they had to use special adhesive

because the first time the brackets popped off. since they were

readhered with the special stuff they've been just fine. if you need

more info feel free to email me in the future.

good luck!

-becky

> Greetings from Boise! Well, it looks like I'll be getting my braces

> put on real-l-ly soon - probably sometime in early July! I went to

> the OD this afternoon - what a nice (young) man! He did a brief exam

> of my jaws, teeth, and TMJ. He says I have a 5 mm jet, and my OMS

> will need to set back my mandible 7 mm. He also says I will only need

> pre-op ortho for twelve months and post-op ortho for up to another

> six months. He's as enthusiastic as I am about all this! He's not

> sure that I will need the LeFort I done at all; he thinks my OMS will

> only need to do the BSSO. He says my jaw joint looks healthy (on the

> panoramic xray). He had me open and close my mouth numerous times as

> he felt the joint articulate - it made lots of loud grinding noises

> and my jaw began to hurt. He says he will put on ceramic brackets on

> the top and bottom, but he might have a problem getting them to

> adhere to two porcelain crowns I have on the bottom front. He also

> thinks that he will not need to utilize the space provided by

> extracted tooth #K, so I will need to have an implant there; no

> additional extractions will be necessary. I have a space between my

> two upper front teeth that he will close and use that space to move

> the other teeth.// The quote for the " records " (the xrays, pictures,

> and the molds) is $284 - I will have that done on Tuesday morning.

> The quote for the orthodontic treatment is $5080 - his office gave me

> several payment options, including a 6% discount for paying the total

> with cash/check and a 4% discount for paying the total with credit

> card.//I feel at ease with all this, and my OD seems very nice and

> explains things well, so I guess I will be in braces soon and will be

> getting my surgery done next summer. WOW!!// Thanks for your support

> and all the knowledge I am gaining each time I visit this site.----

> Diane

[Guest guest]

Hi, Luna - Yes, I know that the surgery cost is separate - this post

is only about the orthodontic treatment. I haven't had the

Orthognathic Surgery consult yet - I'll go to my OMS after my OD

discusses his treatment plan. My surgery isn't covered by my

insurance anyway - it's listed in my policy as an " excluded " benefit.

My insurance does pay $1000 (in a lifetime) for ortho. I have a

friend whose daughter had the surgery and the hospital charged her

$7000 and the surgeon's fee was $9000, so I have an idea of the costs

involved.///Diane-- In orthognathicsurgerysupport ,

str8teeth4me <no_reply@y...> wrote:

> > the other teeth.// The quote for the " records " (the xrays,

pictures,

> > and the molds) is $284 - I will have that done on Tuesday

morning.

> > The quote for the orthodontic treatment is $5080

>

> Don't want to burst your bubble, but you realize the surgery cost is

> probably separate from this? I had quite a rude shock when I

realized

> how much the surgery was vs. how much insurance paid. I ended up

> putting treatment off for a year while I figured out how to pay for

it.

>

> Hope it all works out for you!

>

> Luna

[Guest guest]

OK, good. I just wanted to make sure you weren't in for a shock. L

[Guest guest]

Diane,

Forgive me as I chime in ... I paid about $6K for my Braces and

another $4K for my palatal expander. I haven't gotten the bill from

the hospital yet (hospital stay, OR, anesthesiologist, etc.) but I

did get the bill from my Surgeon. It was almost $36K. I know the

procedures differ ... and the costs differ more from state to state.

But, wow ... if you're friend's daughter had her surgery for $16K

total - that's AMAZING!

Carol

> > > the other teeth.// The quote for the " records " (the xrays,

> pictures,

> > > and the molds) is $284 - I will have that done on Tuesday

> morning.

> > > The quote for the orthodontic treatment is $5080

> >

> > Don't want to burst your bubble, but you realize the surgery cost

is

> > probably separate from this? I had quite a rude shock when I

> realized

> > how much the surgery was vs. how much insurance paid. I ended up

> > putting treatment off for a year while I figured out how to pay

for

> it.

> >

> > Hope it all works out for you!

> >

> > Luna

[Guest guest]

Hey, Carol - I forgot to mention that my friend's daughter's hospital

bill was actually less than the $7K because the hospital gives a

discount for paying the total with cash - I think she told me it was

a third off which dropped the hospital bill down to $4500, but I'm

sure the Anesthesiologist bills for their services separately. I

think I mentioned in a previous post that my Surgeon and his

Anesthesiologist/wife have hospital privileges at a small " short-

term " hospital here (small: nine beds) and he told me that the

surgery would be half the price of the hospital that I'm employed at

(due to markedly decreased overhead). My employer's insurance (thru

Blue Cross) excludes Orthognathic Surgery as a benefit so why should

I have my surgery at my hospital? I've worked there for twenty-five

years - too bad they can't reward my longevity and dedication by

making my surgery a covered benefit (I'm frustrated and angry about

this). Sorry to hear that your Surgeon's bill was so expensive. If I

have to have both upper and lower plus lipo, I expect my Surgeon's

bill will be about $15K (that might include the Anesthesiologist fee

because she works for/with him). My OD thinks I will only need the

BSSO, so a BSSO plus lipo might be around $10K. I'll be making an

appointment for my Orthognathic Surgery Consult for late June on

Tuesday. Today I made an appointment for a dental check-up and

cleaning, as I will need this done before I get my braces. Thank you

Carol for your info and continued support. ////// Diane

> > > > the other teeth.// The quote for the " records " (the xrays,

> > pictures,

> > > > and the molds) is $284 - I will have that done on Tuesday

> > morning.

> > > > The quote for the orthodontic treatment is $5080

> > >

> > > Don't want to burst your bubble, but you realize the surgery

cost

> is

> > > probably separate from this? I had quite a rude shock when I

> > realized

> > > how much the surgery was vs. how much insurance paid. I ended up

> > > putting treatment off for a year while I figured out how to pay

> for

> > it.

> > >

> > > Hope it all works out for you!

> > >

> > > Luna

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I can't help feeling bad at the massive costs you people in the states deal

with. I keep reading posts of patients in the states paying over $30k for

an operation. I live in Canada, Ontario to be precise and i didn't pay even

one quarter of what you're paying in Canadian funds. The braces for me was

the most expensive part ringing in at about $6K. The operation was

something like $800, which is the price for my surgeon's services. Because

my procedure was done in a hospital, it was covered by our public health

plan (OHIP). So, after all of it, i barely pay $8000 CAD after factoring

all the other products I have to buy in preparation and during the recovery.

I'm really lucky to be living a Canadian life. anyway. . my 2 cents!

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<br><br><br> & gt;From: miss_redagain2005

& lt;no_reply & gt;<br> & gt;Reply-To:

orthognathicsurgerysupport <br> & gt;To:

orthognathicsurgerysupport <br> & gt;Subject: [Orthognathic

Surgery Support ] Re: My OD Consult Appointment<br> & gt;Date: Fri, 27 May

2005 15:10:38 -0000<br> & gt;<br> & gt;Diane,<br> & gt;Forgive me as I chime in

.... I paid about $6K for my Braces and<br> & gt;another $4K for my palatal

expander. I haven't gotten the bill from<br> & gt;the hospital yet (hospital

stay, OR, anesthesiologist, etc.) but I<br> & gt;did get the bill from my

Surgeon. It was almost $36K. I know the<br> & gt;procedures differ ... and

the costs differ more from state to state.<br> & gt;But, wow ... if you're

friend's daughter had her surgery for $16K<br> & gt;total - that's AMAZING!

<br> & gt;Carol<br> & gt;<br> & gt;<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; the other teeth.// The

quote for the & quot;records & quot; (the xrays,<br> & gt; & gt; pictures,<br> & gt;

& gt; & gt; & gt; and the molds) is $284 - I will have that done on

Tuesday<br> & gt; & gt; morning.<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; The quote for the

orthodontic treatment is $5080<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; Don't

want to burst your bubble, but you realize the surgery

cost<br> & gt;is<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; probably separate from this? I had quite a

rude shock when I<br> & gt; & gt; realized<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; how much the

surgery was vs. how much insurance paid. I ended up<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;

putting treatment off for a year while I figured out how to

pay<br> & gt;for<br> & gt; & gt; it.<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; Hope it

all works out for you!<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;

Luna<br> & gt;<br> & gt;<br>

[Guest guest]

Diane,

It's really a shame that the hospital you work for doesn't have

better benefits for their employees. But it sounds like you've done

your " homework " and are getting all your " ducks in a row " . Good luck

with your upcoming appointments.

Take care!

Carol

> > > > > the other teeth.// The quote for the " records " (the xrays,

> > > pictures,

> > > > > and the molds) is $284 - I will have that done on Tuesday

> > > morning.

> > > > > The quote for the orthodontic treatment is $5080

> > > >

> > > > Don't want to burst your bubble, but you realize the surgery

> cost

> > is

> > > > probably separate from this? I had quite a rude shock when I

> > > realized

> > > > how much the surgery was vs. how much insurance paid. I ended

up

> > > > putting treatment off for a year while I figured out how to

pay

> > for

> > > it.

> > > >

> > > > Hope it all works out for you!

> > > >

> > > > Luna

[Guest guest]

Derrick,

Yeah, I understand that Canada's policies on Maternity Leave put our

in the US to shame, too. <shrug> Such is life!

Carol

<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; the other teeth.// The

> quote for the & quot;records & quot; (the xrays,<br> & gt; & gt;

pictures,<br> & gt;

> & gt; & gt; & gt; and the molds) is $284 - I will have that done on

> Tuesday<br> & gt; & gt; morning.<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; & gt; The quote for

the

> orthodontic treatment is $5080<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;

Don't

> want to burst your bubble, but you realize the surgery

> cost<br> & gt;is<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; probably separate from this? I had

quite a

> rude shock when I<br> & gt; & gt; realized<br> & gt; & gt; & gt; how much

the

> surgery was vs. how much insurance paid. I ended up<br> & gt; & gt;

& gt;

> putting treatment off for a year while I figured out how to

> pay<br> & gt;for<br> & gt; & gt; it.<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;

Hope it

> all works out for you!<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;<br> & gt; & gt; & gt;

> Luna<br> & gt;<br> & gt;<br>

[Guest guest]

> I'm really lucky to be living a Canadian life.

Yes, you are. In more ways than just medical costs.