Re: Nausea -- was new to group and diet...daughter has crohn's...struggling!!!

August 6, 2010

Suzanne

Just

wanted to give you a caution on peppermint and ginger tea if you are dealing

with nausea and/or a sensitive stomach. Depending on the cause of the

nausea, mint and ginger teas can cause more problems than help; mint teas in

particular. But some people find these teas helpful – all depends

on the trigger mechanism. So I would start off with a very weak mint or

ginger tea, and wait a bit between sips so you’ll know which way your

daughter’s body will react.

Mint

will relax the smooth muscles, and in some cases this helps digestive

action. But for some of us (I’m one of them) this causes problems

because the upper GI is malfunctioning enough that the muscle relaxation of the

pyloric sphincter, among other muscles, triggers nausea and vomiting and stops

peristalsis instead of increases it. Opposite effect of what is intended.

I’m

not sure why the ginger tea has a similar nausea-producing effect, haven’t

looked into it. But in my case it affects my Sphincter of Oddi, which is

just below the pyloric sphincter and stomach, causing severe nausea and

abdominal pain. So I don’t use ginger tea any more than I use mint

teas (and I don’t use them in cooking/baking either). Spices are on

my “be super careful of this” list.

I

deal with nausea 24/7, every time I eat and drink, because of my dysfunctional

upper GI. I’ve learned to keep the symptoms minimal most days, but I do

go through bouts of severe regularly, part of my body’s cycle. I

keep a supply of anti-nausea meds. on hand for the really bad days. When

my nausea is severe, I drink room-temperature diluted apple juice (make my own

juice) alternating with room-temperature water, the occasional glass of Elyte

or my homemade electrolyte drink. I rarely want to drink during episodes

of severe nausea, but I dehydrate easily so I have to. I never drink or eat

anything cold or hot, everything room-temperature or slightly warmed up; helps

keep my stomach from overreacting. My nausea is coming partly from my stomach,

but mostly from just below it (that’s how it feels!), so I rarely vomit,

just feel very, very queasy (and dizzy, etc.).

Kim M.

SCD 6 years

Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

thanks

Alyssa! how do you make the peppermint tea? were the ginger capsules irritating

at all?? with her stomach sooo sensitive i do worry about something strong

going in there.

suzanne

August 6, 2010

Kim M,

I can't drink Mint Tea often because it sometimes induces such nausea it makes

me weak in the knees.

Why is that?

Thanks!

Jodi

>

> Suzanne

>

> Just wanted to give you a caution on peppermint and ginger tea if you are

> dealing with nausea and/or a sensitive stomach. Depending on the cause of

> the nausea, mint and ginger teas can cause more problems than help; mint

> teas in particular. But some people find these teas helpful - all depends

> on the trigger mechanism. So I would start off with a very weak mint or

> ginger tea, and wait a bit between sips so you'll know which way your

> daughter's body will react.

>

> Mint will relax the smooth muscles, and in some cases this helps digestive

> action. But for some of us (I'm one of them) this causes problems because

> the upper GI is malfunctioning enough that the muscle relaxation of the

> pyloric sphincter, among other muscles, triggers nausea and vomiting and

> stops peristalsis instead of increases it. Opposite effect of what is

> intended.

>

> I'm not sure why the ginger tea has a similar nausea-producing effect,

> haven't looked into it. But in my case it affects my Sphincter of Oddi,

> which is just below the pyloric sphincter and stomach, causing severe nausea

> and abdominal pain. So I don't use ginger tea any more than I use mint teas

> (and I don't use them in cooking/baking either). Spices are on my " be super

> careful of this " list.

>

> I deal with nausea 24/7, every time I eat and drink, because of my

> dysfunctional upper GI. I've learned to keep the symptoms minimal most days,

> but I do go through bouts of severe regularly, part of my body's cycle. I

> keep a supply of anti-nausea meds. on hand for the really bad days. When my

> nausea is severe, I drink room-temperature diluted apple juice (make my own

> juice) alternating with room-temperature water, the occasional glass of

> Elyte or my homemade electrolyte drink. I rarely want to drink during

> episodes of severe nausea, but I dehydrate easily so I have to. I never

> drink or eat anything cold or hot, everything room-temperature or slightly

> warmed up; helps keep my stomach from overreacting. My nausea is coming

> partly from my stomach, but mostly from just below it (that's how it

> feels!), so I rarely vomit, just feel very, very queasy (and dizzy, etc.).

>

> Kim M.

>

> SCD 6 years

>

> Sphincter of Oddi dysfunction 6+ years

>

> neurological & spinal deterioration 3+ years

>

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

> thanks Alyssa! how do you make the peppermint tea? were the ginger capsules

> irritating at all?? with her stomach sooo sensitive i do worry about

> something strong going in there.

>

> suzanne

>

August 6, 2010

thanks for the info. kim! will definitely keep it in mind! not sure what's

causing her nausea...mostly the crohn's i think. dr. said yesterday to get back

on the prevacid and this may help. she takes it in the morning. not happy about

all the meds, but she is getting to a critical point with her weight so i am

having to make some decisions. really appreciate your shared thoughts