Re: off topic but really on topic

[Guest guest]

> Hello all,

>

> First off , I hope you are all doing great on the diet.. I have been on it

for over 2 ½ years and doing great, strongest medication I take these days are

garlic and panadol(extremely rarely)

>

> As I said in the header this is off topic but on topic really…

>

> I urge you to watch this video as the more people who know about this the

better chance everyone will have of having their health back…

>

> http://www.youtube.com/user/chrychek

>

> I know a guy with Crohns for years, he was given every medication they could

think of and all of it failed… they told him about Cannabis helping the

symptoms of Crohns but he did not take it, don’t know his reasons raelly….

he tried the diet but it did not seem to work for him..perhaps he was just too

far gone…not sure.. anyway he ended up having an operation and now has to have

a bag..he is only 26..

>

> I was given the usual steroids when I was eventually diagnosed and I took them

along with anti-inflammatories(which one doctor told me he was not sure they

even worked)nobody told me about Cannabis helping… I wish they had….as I

would much rather have tried this than steroids

>

LOL. I know that I've mentioned it on the list several times - perhaps not

recently

though. I read a medical study about it years ago and discussed it with my

doctor,

who told me in reply that smoking (regular cigs.) also helps.

Then - as it turned out we went to high school together, though didn't know each

other (big NYC school) - we joked around about the corner of the yard that

always

had a cloud of dope smoke rising over it during lunch periods.

Mara

[Guest guest]

It's actually the nicotine in the cigs...going on the patch would do the same

thing....but why bother getting addicted to another substance?

Stacey

> LOL. I know that I've mentioned it on the list several times - perhaps not

recently

> though. I read a medical study about it years ago and discussed it with my

doctor,

> who told me in reply that smoking (regular cigs.) also helps.

[Guest guest]

well cigarettes can cause many diseases and are not a natural herb.....not the

same at all...I had heard that myself though...in fact smoking Cannabis(and I am

not really talking about smoking with regard to this video and message)

apparently does not cause lung cancer and if you did smoke a mix of tobacco and

cannabis you would be less likely to get any disease..and its not addictive..

we are really talking about the THC content of the plant here... this is all

news to many people including myself but not news to many big companies who have

known about this since the 70's.... how many people have needlessy died since

that time????

take care

>

> > LOL. I know that I've mentioned it on the list several times - perhaps not

recently

> > though. I read a medical study about it years ago and discussed it with my

doctor,

> > who told me in reply that smoking (regular cigs.) also helps.

>

[Guest guest]

At 11:21 AM 7/21/2010, you wrote:

well cigarettes can cause many

diseases and are not a natural herb.....not the same at all...I had heard

that myself though...in fact smoking Cannabis(and I am not really talking

about smoking with regard to this video and message) apparently does not

cause lung cancer and if you did smoke a mix of tobacco and cannabis you

would be less likely to get any disease..and its not addictive..

we are really talking about the THC content of the plant here... this is

all news to many people including myself but not news to many big

companies who have known about this since the 70's.... how many people

have needlessy died since that time????

As it happens, tobacco IS a natural herb -- just as natural as the

cannabis. It's what's done in the processing, and the adding of compounds

to make it burn steadily that makes it unnatural.

But you know, the cannabis can't be patented. So of course the people who

want to make money off drugs aren't going to be in favor of it.

Diet can't be patented, ditto.

Naltrexone is out of patent.

There are plenty of people who are suffering and dying because of a

system which insists that medical research must also yield a profit.

Preferably a BIG profit.

Food won't get you arrested. (Well, unless you're after raw milk...)

Neither will LDN. At present, however, possession of cannabis CAN get you

arrested, so I'd prefer that this discussion wind down. Oh, and the THC

content has been known for rather longer than since the 70s. Like, since

about 3000 BC. And people have been stomping on it for rather longer than

that. See

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Of course tobacco is natural herb, if you read my post correctly I said

cigarettes are not a natural herb..and of course the chinese and others have

been using it for years, I am not the one needing the education....I've read

many of your posts and realise you are very helpful to people but I am not here

for a contest of who knows more than the other, just to get some info out to as

many people as I can to stop the pain and suffering which I know you and many

others like you have been through

as for the discussion winding down...thats what keeps this natural healing herb

illegal....the more people who are educated about it the more likley the laws

will be changed and the healthier the world will be... I think people can make

up their own mind if they want to try this or not.... if my Crohns came back as

bad as when I first had it I for one would be giving this a try..legal or not

legal.. I don;t think anyone should me made to suffer because of stupid outdated

laws... so I would urge you to let go of the fear and pass this video on to as

many people as you can... change will come as it did with this diet... just

think how powerful this diet and THC could be...

thank you and goodnight

> >well cigarettes can cause many diseases and are

> >not a natural herb.....not the same at all...I

> >had heard that myself though...in fact smoking

> >Cannabis(and I am not really talking about

> >smoking with regard to this video and message)

> >apparently does not cause lung cancer and if you

> >did smoke a mix of tobacco and cannabis you

> >would be less likely to get any disease..and its not addictive..

> >

> >we are really talking about the THC content of

> >the plant here... this is all news to many

> >people including myself but not news to many big

> >companies who have known about this since the

> >70's.... how many people have needlessy died since that time????

>

> As it happens, tobacco IS a natural herb -- just

> as natural as the cannabis. It's what's done in

> the processing, and the adding of compounds to

> make it burn steadily that makes it unnatural.

>

> But you know, the cannabis can't be patented. So

> of course the people who want to make money off

> drugs aren't going to be in favor of it.

>

> Diet can't be patented, ditto.

>

> Naltrexone is out of patent.

>

> There are plenty of people who are suffering and

> dying because of a system which insists that

> medical research must also yield a profit. Preferably a BIG profit.

>

> Food won't get you arrested. (Well, unless you're

> after raw milk...) Neither will LDN. At present,

> however, possession of cannabis CAN get you

> arrested, so I'd prefer that this discussion wind

> down. Oh, and the THC content has been known for

> rather longer than since the 70s. Like, since

> about 3000 BC. And people have been stomping on

> it for rather longer than that. See

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness.

>

>

>

> � Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>

[Guest guest]

WOW ..

Marilyn so does not deserve this reply!

This is an SCD group.

I am so beyond pro Jane... It's been approved legal in CA for Crohn's..

I do not perceive Marilyn as being close minded or misguided about this subject

at all. Her reply was concise and to the point..

Nothing disparaging at all!

Anyway, This is Off Topic like so many other things and it is easy to dilute

this group.. That is not to say there isn't a ton of useful info out there on a

whole myriad of subjects..but if we go down that road the SCD message gets

diluted.

Marilyn owns the most open minded welcoming SCD group. She also does not

tolerate any kind of personal attacks whatsoever...

She gives us plenty of room to discuss Off Topic subjects..

I dig it.

Jodi

> > >well cigarettes can cause many diseases and are

> > >not a natural herb.....not the same at all...I

> > >had heard that myself though...in fact smoking

> > >Cannabis(and I am not really talking about

> > >smoking with regard to this video and message)

> > >apparently does not cause lung cancer and if you

> > >did smoke a mix of tobacco and cannabis you

> > >would be less likely to get any disease..and its not addictive..

> > >

> > >we are really talking about the THC content of

> > >the plant here... this is all news to many

> > >people including myself but not news to many big

> > >companies who have known about this since the

> > >70's.... how many people have needlessy died since that time????

> >

> > As it happens, tobacco IS a natural herb -- just

> > as natural as the cannabis. It's what's done in

> > the processing, and the adding of compounds to

> > make it burn steadily that makes it unnatural.

> >

> > But you know, the cannabis can't be patented. So

> > of course the people who want to make money off

> > drugs aren't going to be in favor of it.

> >

> > Diet can't be patented, ditto.

> >

> > Naltrexone is out of patent.

> >

> > There are plenty of people who are suffering and

> > dying because of a system which insists that

> > medical research must also yield a profit. Preferably a BIG profit.

> >

> > Food won't get you arrested. (Well, unless you're

> > after raw milk...) Neither will LDN. At present,

> > however, possession of cannabis CAN get you

> > arrested, so I'd prefer that this discussion wind

> > down. Oh, and the THC content has been known for

> > rather longer than since the 70s. Like, since

> > about 3000 BC. And people have been stomping on

> > it for rather longer than that. See

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness.

> >

> >

> >

> > � Marilyn

> > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> > Darn Good SCD Cook

> > No Human Children

> > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> > Babette the Foundling Beagle

> >

>

[Guest guest]

,

If you had any idea how much personal time and energy Marilyn spends helping

others on this board, you would be more polite and understanding that this is an

SCD board, dedicated to helping people on SCD. It is not an open board to

discuss other issues although some leeway is given for helpful topics.

As a moderator, Marilyn has the right to control the topics, and insist on using

legal treatments. Please treat her, and others here with respect.

PJ

> > >well cigarettes can cause many diseases and are

> > >not a natural herb.....not the same at all...I

> > >had heard that myself though...in fact smoking

> > >Cannabis(and I am not really talking about

> > >smoking with regard to this video and message)

> > >apparently does not cause lung cancer and if you

> > >did smoke a mix of tobacco and cannabis you

> > >would be less likely to get any disease..and its not addictive..

> > >

> > >we are really talking about the THC content of

> > >the plant here... this is all news to many

> > >people including myself but not news to many big

> > >companies who have known about this since the

> > >70's.... how many people have needlessy died since that time????

> >

> > As it happens, tobacco IS a natural herb -- just

> > as natural as the cannabis. It's what's done in

> > the processing, and the adding of compounds to

> > make it burn steadily that makes it unnatural.

> >

> > But you know, the cannabis can't be patented. So

> > of course the people who want to make money off

> > drugs aren't going to be in favor of it.

> >

> > Diet can't be patented, ditto.

> >

> > Naltrexone is out of patent.

> >

> > There are plenty of people who are suffering and

> > dying because of a system which insists that

> > medical research must also yield a profit. Preferably a BIG profit.

> >

> > Food won't get you arrested. (Well, unless you're

> > after raw milk...) Neither will LDN. At present,

> > however, possession of cannabis CAN get you

> > arrested, so I'd prefer that this discussion wind

> > down. Oh, and the THC content has been known for

> > rather longer than since the 70s. Like, since

> > about 3000 BC. And people have been stomping on

> > it for rather longer than that. See

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness.

> >

> >

> >

> > � Marilyn

> > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> > Darn Good SCD Cook

> > No Human Children

> > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> > Babette the Foundling Beagle

> >

>

[Guest guest]

> > > >well cigarettes can cause many diseases and are

> > > >not a natural herb.....not the same at all...I

> > > >had heard that myself though...in fact smoking

> > > >Cannabis(and I am not really talking about

> > > >smoking with regard to this video and message)

> > > >apparently does not cause lung cancer and if you

> > > >did smoke a mix of tobacco and cannabis you

> > > >would be less likely to get any disease..and its not addictive..

> > > >

> > > >we are really talking about the THC content of

> > > >the plant here... this is all news to many

> > > >people including myself but not news to many big

> > > >companies who have known about this since the

> > > >70's.... how many people have needlessy died since that time????

> > >

> > > As it happens, tobacco IS a natural herb -- just

> > > as natural as the cannabis. It's what's done in

> > > the processing, and the adding of compounds to

> > > make it burn steadily that makes it unnatural.

> > >

> > > But you know, the cannabis can't be patented. So

> > > of course the people who want to make money off

> > > drugs aren't going to be in favor of it.

> > >

> > > Diet can't be patented, ditto.

> > >

> > > Naltrexone is out of patent.

> > >

> > > There are plenty of people who are suffering and

> > > dying because of a system which insists that

> > > medical research must also yield a profit. Preferably a BIG profit.

> > >

> > > Food won't get you arrested. (Well, unless you're

> > > after raw milk...) Neither will LDN. At present,

> > > however, possession of cannabis CAN get you

> > > arrested, so I'd prefer that this discussion wind

> > > down. Oh, and the THC content has been known for

> > > rather longer than since the 70s. Like, since

> > > about 3000 BC. And people have been stomping on

> > > it for rather longer than that. See

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reefer_Madness.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > � Marilyn

> > > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> > > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> > > Darn Good SCD Cook

> > > No Human Children

> > > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> > > Babette the Foundling Beagle

> > >

> >

>

hi all,

this will be my last post on the subject..I really did not want to have a

discussion about it or get any bad vibes going, I just corrected Marilyns

response re tobacco/cigarettes and her assumption that I did not know the

history...there was no offence in that...and there certainly was no personal

attack...

I fail to see how I insulted anyone or was impolite and I have always treated

people on these forums with respect and do not need anyone to tell me that, with

all respect, thanks anyway... you are again presuming I don't know how much time

and energy Marilyn puts into this...I do... so its the presumptions that I am

correcting here...which is fair enough I would have thought...

I have the every respect for ilyn and at times through this forum she has

helped me, and I have helped others as I am sure you all have..

Smoking Cannabis is not what I am talking about here... please watch the

video....it really is well worth it....

This forum has helped me as have other forums and without the diet I would be in

a sorry state....

I have actually stated, perhaps even on this forum about off topic subjects and

the confusion it can cause.. I just felt that this needs to be highlighted

particularly for the people who need it most...the sick...and surely this would

be given leeway...

unfortunately we do not all live in California ..., I did spend a lot of time in

SF and loved it, but again its not about smoking Cannabis..please watch the

video...

perhaps the cultural differnces in how we speak come into play here, perhaps my

passion for good health comes across too strong for some..but I make no apology

for that after living with Crohns and having a mother with cancer....when there

has been a natural cure there all the time... and if some people get a little

bent out of shape but the message gets through to people who need it, well I'll

take that anyday...and make apologies if need be later...

the video really says it all,so don't let an outspoken Irishman stop you watchin

it...lol

goodnight and good health to you all

Crohns 3 yrs

SCD 2yrs 9 months