Re: Twinkle Twinkle Little Star ????

[Guest guest]

> The following appeared in yesterday's (Oct 6th) New York Post, an

item from

> their notorious Page Six gossip section, and I thought it might be

something of

> interest to all. Here it is verbatim:

>

> <<October 6, 2003 -- WHY isn't Star telling the truth about

her

> stomach-stapling? The queen-size host of " The View " underwent

gastric bypass surgery,

> as we reported in August, after she fainted from the altitude in

Colorado and

> doctors told her she had to lose weight. But when someone recently

> congratulated her on her shrinkage, she attributed it to " dieting. "

Scoffed an insider,

> " This is a woman who couldn't diet if she was in Ethiopia during a

famine.

> She's looking to capitalize on this somehow. " >>

>

> Now I do recall back in August when Page Six first reported that

Star

> had secretly had RNY, which supposedly allegedly was done during

the show's

> hiatus, and which supposedly allegedly was filmed by Barbara

Walters production

> company for a special later in the year. I recall also at that

time that

> representatives of Star , when contacted to comment on the

story, said that

> (paraphrased) --Ms has a policy of never addressing publicly

matters

> concerning her private life-- ...so who knows! I

purposely tuned into

> the View gagfest today and lo and behold Star is looking a bit more

svelte

> (good for her!)

>

> Anyway, I respectfully request that anyone ired by any of the

wording in the

> Post's column please NOT shoot the messenger, but instead direct

this alleged

> supposed anger to http://www.pagesix.com.

>

> Hi to all,

>

> Lucille

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>> WHY isn't Star telling the truth about

> her stomach-stapling?

Here's my opinion -- it's her own damned business, no one else's. When or if

she's ready to share how she lost weight, that's entirely up to her. How many of

us have struggled with whether we should tell co-workers, new acquaintances, or

even close friends and family members for fear of ridicule, or worse, failure

and the acocmpanying " I-told-you-so's. "

Just because someone is in the public eye in their profession, does not mean

they need to share every intimate detail of their lives with us. I support

Star's decision, to tell or not to tell. She doesn't have to be a poster child

for WLS -- Carney already volunteered for that position.

~~ Lyn G

[Guest guest]

My own belief Star is keeping this quiet is because she shot herself

in the foot. She has MANY times talked about how comfortable she is

at her weight and that big women are beautiful...yadda yadda. She

has defended her position to be big so many times, that I am sure

she will have to claim a heavy duty medical reason to explain why

she felt the need to have surgery.

Personally...I never bought it.

Carol G.

> >> WHY isn't Star telling the truth about

> > her stomach-stapling?

>

> Here's my opinion -- it's her own damned business, no one else's.

When or if she's ready to share how she lost weight, that's entirely

up to her. How many of us have struggled with whether we should tell

co-workers, new acquaintances, or even close friends and family

members for fear of ridicule, or worse, failure and the

acocmpanying " I-told-you-so's. "

>

> Just because someone is in the public eye in their profession,

does not mean they need to share every intimate detail of their

lives with us. I support Star's decision, to tell or not to tell.

She doesn't have to be a poster child for WLS -- Carney already

volunteered for that position.

>

> ~~ Lyn G

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/8/2003 6:24:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

clis1@... writes:

She has MANY times talked about how comfortable she is

at her weight and that big women are beautiful

==========================================

I have to chime in here. I believe that big women (including Star) are

beautiful. I was very comfortable and at ease with my size pre op. Would I

prefer

being thin, Of course, but being obese was no big trauma. But, when my

weight began to interfere with my life, I had to do something. I never felt that

I

went back on my beliefs, only that things change. There are many people out

there who do not believe that fat people do not always hate themselves. Carol

G, I know this post will not change your mind and that you believe that we

are lying to ourselves and others. But, maybe someday you will see what we see.

Fay Bayuk

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10/23/01

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 10/8/2003 6:24:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

clis1@... writes:

She has MANY times talked about how comfortable she is

at her weight and that big women are beautiful

==========================================

I have to chime in here. I believe that big women (including Star) are

beautiful. I was very comfortable and at ease with my size pre op. Would I

prefer

being thin, Of course, but being obese was no big trauma. But, when my

weight began to interfere with my life, I had to do something. I never felt that

I

went back on my beliefs, only that things change. There are many people out

there who do not believe that fat people do not always hate themselves. Carol

G, I know this post will not change your mind and that you believe that we

are lying to ourselves and others. But, maybe someday you will see what we see.

Fay Bayuk

**300/166

10/23/01

Dr.

Open RNY 150 cm

Click for My Profile

http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008

Coping with the emotional aspects of craving food, one day at a time.

[Guest guest]

> being thin, Of course, but being obese was no big trauma. But,

when my weight began to interfere with my life,

----------> Those are the operative words.

Fat interferes with life well before Star's current weight. I am

near positive she did not fit into plane seats or movie seats, she

did not fit into Amusement park rides, she has trouble sitting in

restaurant booths and at the theater. I am sure her feet did not fit

into those delicate little shoes she loves.

Yes, she is a very beautiful woman and yes she has a lovely

wardrobe. But her obesity interfered with her life and she said any

number of negative things about Gastric Bypass surgery and how " big

women are beautiful and should accept who they are and be proud. "

Now...I am all about positive attitude towards yourself and self-

acceptance. I am also all about truth and not lying to yourself.

The old adage seems to apply here, " Careful, lest thou defend

thyself too much. "

I like Star, I wish her nothing but well and huge success and I look

forward to seeing her live life again.

Carol G.

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I currently weigh 347 lbs. (down for 479 lbs). Although I am not

always comfortable in my skin, I am certainly more at ease with myself.

My self esteem is better then it has been in years. I look better then I

have in years. But to say I want to be at this weight for life would be

a total lie. I would love to be 135 lbs. Heck I'd love to weigh less

then 300 lbs. There are so many things that I would love to do that I

can't yet because of the weight.

I recently saw Star (I think it might have been a rerun) and

noticed how hard it was for her to walk to her chair. She had that fat

person wobble I had (and probably still have). It was rather sad that

anyone would want to stay that way for life. She is extremely

intelligent and talented. She is truly very pretty. I just keep

thinking her life would be so much better as a light weight.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Thu, 9 Oct 2003 03:50:06 EDT fbayuk@... writes:

> In a message dated 10/8/2003 6:24:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> clis1@... writes:

> She has MANY times talked about how comfortable she is

> at her weight and that big women are beautiful

> ==========================================

>

> I have to chime in here. I believe that big women (including Star)

> are

> beautiful. I was very comfortable and at ease with my size pre op.

> Would I prefer

> being thin, Of course, but being obese was no big trauma. But,

> when my

> weight began to interfere with my life, I had to do something. I

> never felt that I

> went back on my beliefs, only that things change. There are many

> people out

> there who do not believe that fat people do not always hate

> themselves. Carol

> G, I know this post will not change your mind and that you believe

> that we

> are lying to ourselves and others. But, maybe someday you will see

> what we see.

>

>

> Fay Bayuk

> **300/166

> 10/23/01

> Dr.

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>

>

>

> Coping with the emotional aspects of craving food, one day at a

> time.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>I was very comfortable and at ease with my size pre op. Would I prefer

> being thin, Of course, but being obese was no big trauma. But, when my

> weight began to interfere with my life, I had to do something. I never felt

that I

> went back on my beliefs, only that things change.

This is true for me too, or at least it eventually became so. I was a fat baby,

and never was thin in my life. I dated and was popular in high school, had many

friends, and heck, I was married FOUR times, so even though I was MO I had no

trouble finding a man (finding a GOOD one was a challenge, LOL!). I was very

much in favor of the BBW idea, that we are beautiful because of what we are

inside, not outside. It wasn't until I started having the various co-morbs that

I started to really worry about my weight. I had dieted many times over the

years, not because of the look, but because I wanted to be healthier and be able

to do more things. When I couldn't do even the most simple things, and when my

doc said I needed to lose the weight if I wanted to see my kids become adults,

then losing became a real issue. If I weren't worried about my health, I still

wouldn't care really if I were big or small. If I ever hated myself, it was

because of problems on the inside, not the size of me on the outside.

~~ Lyn G