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It really has gone by fast! I would have never thought I would be

saying it but it is something that everyone should try to remember!

Jane

> > > Jane,

> > > Congratulations!!! That is fantastic! You'll have to tell me how

> it is

> > > to get the braces off... will they come off in time for your

> husband's

> > > graduation? I remember that you were worried about pictures....

> Enjoy

> > > counting down the days... you must be thrilled! :)

> > > Katja :)

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Jane, how long as it been exactly again since you had your surgery?

Also, did your surgeon mention whether you would need to see him

again for check-ups on your jaw and if so, how often? Can't wait to

get to the point that you are at!

Sara

(26 days until surgery)

> > > > Jane,

> > > > Congratulations!!! That is fantastic! You'll have to tell me

how

> > it is

> > > > to get the braces off... will they come off in time for your

> > husband's

> > > > graduation? I remember that you were worried about

pictures....

> > Enjoy

> > > > counting down the days... you must be thrilled! :)

> > > > Katja :)

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My surgery was February 23. It has been 2 months and 11 days. I saw

the surgeon a week later and then every two weeks for the next three

appointments and then about a month later. I had my stitches checked

and x rays the first visit. I then had just two check ups the next

two. 5 1/2 weeks post op my wires were cut then 2 weeks later 8 weeks

post op my splint was taken out. The last appointment they also took

more photos of my teeth. It really feels great when you know an end

is near!! Everything just takes time.

Jane

> > > > > Jane,

> > > > > Congratulations!!! That is fantastic! You'll have to tell me

> how

> > > it is

> > > > > to get the braces off... will they come off in time for your

> > > husband's

> > > > > graduation? I remember that you were worried about

> pictures....

> > > Enjoy

> > > > > counting down the days... you must be thrilled! :)

> > > > > Katja :)

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A quick question about wire removal. I have two appointments set up -

one for Wire Removal and the other for Skeletal Wire Removal. As my

Surgeon explained, I have wires - both top and bottom - ( I also saw

them in x-rays. ) that are an " insurance policy " type thing and wrap

around my jaw. They insure that if something happens to the regular

wiring and splint my mouth will not become a total mess (or so he

says!). :) Has anyone had this Skeletal Wire Removal process? I'm

told it will involve some gas and novacain and then it's a quick and

painless process. I find that a bit hard to believe. Feedback would

be much appreciated!

Thanks in advance,

Carol

> > > > > > Jane,

> > > > > > Congratulations!!! That is fantastic! You'll have to tell

me

> > how

> > > > it is

> > > > > > to get the braces off... will they come off in time for

your

> > > > husband's

> > > > > > graduation? I remember that you were worried about

> > pictures....

> > > > Enjoy

> > > > > > counting down the days... you must be thrilled! :)

> > > > > > Katja :)

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Carol

i have thin wires that I could see in the X-rays also. I asked if

they would be removed, and he said, " not unless they bother you. " So

I guess that mine will stay in forever.

> > > > > > > Jane,

> > > > > > > Congratulations!!! That is fantastic! You'll have to

tell

> me

> > > how

> > > > > it is

> > > > > > > to get the braces off... will they come off in time

for

> your

> > > > > husband's

> > > > > > > graduation? I remember that you were worried about

> > > pictures....

> > > > > Enjoy

> > > > > > > counting down the days... you must be thrilled! :)

> > > > > > > Katja :)

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,

That's very interesting. Thanks for sharing. I'll be sure and ask

my Surgeon for more details when I see him next week.

Take care,

Carol

> > > > Jane, how long as it been exactly again since you had your

> > surgery?

> > > > Also, did your surgeon mention whether you would need to see

> him

> > > > again for check-ups on your jaw and if so, how often? Can't

> wait

> > to

> > > > get to the point that you are at!

> > > > Sara

> > > > (26 days until surgery)

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Carol,

Interesting, I don't think that I had that because it was never

removed or mentioned. The plates that I have in my upper cheek area

stay put as far as I know although I can feel them on my right side.

Let me know how the removal turns out.

Jane

> > > > > > > Jane,

> > > > > > > Congratulations!!! That is fantastic! You'll have to tell

> me

> > > how

> > > > > it is

> > > > > > > to get the braces off... will they come off in time for

> your

> > > > > husband's

> > > > > > > graduation? I remember that you were worried about

> > > pictures....

> > > > > Enjoy

> > > > > > > counting down the days... you must be thrilled! :)

> > > > > > > Katja :)

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Jane,

I was a bit surprised myself as my Surgeon hadn't mentioned this

prior to surgery. I'll keep the board posted. :)

Thanks,

Carol

> > > > Jane, how long as it been exactly again since you had your

> > surgery?

> > > > Also, did your surgeon mention whether you would need to see

him

> > > > again for check-ups on your jaw and if so, how often? Can't

wait

> > to

> > > > get to the point that you are at!

> > > > Sara

> > > > (26 days until surgery)

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As with so much of this stuff, the terms are the same, but mean

different things.

There are archwires, of course, which provide much of the moving

force for the ortho, with their tensions against the brackets. There

are wire ties that can be used to attach the archwires into the

brackets. There are surgical wires, which are essentially very

tough, stiff archwires, along with wire ties (for me, anyhow).

And then there are mouths that are wired shut, by means of wires

that weave between the loops/hooks/brackets/whatever attached to the

archwires.

In addition, there are internal, or skeletal wires. Some stay

forever. Some are used rather than screws and plates (or in addition

to them) to keep things where the surgeon put them. Sometimes

they're removed; sometimes they stay forever -- usually, I think,

the ones that stay forever are in the chin.

Anyone who is uncertain or concerned about which technique a surgeon

plans to use should ask him or her. But you should also bear in mind

that conditions in the operating room (a bad break, or brittle or

thin bones, e.g.) can change the plan.

Cammie

And my experience with gas has been that, if it hurts, who cares?

The gas sends you into that nice, lovely spot where it doesn't

matter.

> > Carol,

> > Interesting, I don't think that I had that because it was never

> > removed or mentioned. The plates that I have in my upper cheek

area

> > stay put as far as I know although I can feel them on my right

> side.

> > Let me know how the removal turns out.

> >

> > Jane

>

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Cammie,

Thanks so much for all these details. Having spoken with my Surgeon

on Monday, I'm feeling much better about the Skeletal Wires I have

and their impending removal.

I'm thinking about the gas/injection/removal process and will see how

I feel as the time draws near. I'm scared of the pain ... but trust

my Surgeon.

Time will tell. :)

Thanks again!

Carol

> > > Carol,

> > > Interesting, I don't think that I had that because it was never

> > > removed or mentioned. The plates that I have in my upper cheek

> area

> > > stay put as far as I know although I can feel them on my right

> > side.

> > > Let me know how the removal turns out.

> > >

> > > Jane

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Yes, I recently was shown x rays and explained that I have plates and

screws in my upper.

Jane

> > > Carol,

> > > Interesting, I don't think that I had that because it was never

> > > removed or mentioned. The plates that I have in my upper cheek

> area

> > > stay put as far as I know although I can feel them on my right

> > side.

> > > Let me know how the removal turns out.

> > >

> > > Jane

> >

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