1 month on SCD and no improvements

[Guest guest]

Hello all-

I have now been on SCD for 1 month and have not seen any improvements. It seems

like I am going to the bathroom more often now than I was before. Also, it feels

like my diarrhea has gotten worse. Does anyone have any advice? Should I stay on

the diet?

Also, I am losing alot of weight... are there any foods that can help me with

weight gain? Is it common to lose a lot of weight on this diet?

Any advice is appreciated!

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Please post more details about what you are eating and what condition you are

treating- any meds?

PJ

>

> Hello all-

>

> I have now been on SCD for 1 month and have not seen any improvements. It

seems like I am going to the bathroom more often now than I was before. Also, it

feels like my diarrhea has gotten worse. Does anyone have any advice? Should I

stay on the diet?

>

> Also, I am losing alot of weight... are there any foods that can help me with

weight gain? Is it common to lose a lot of weight on this diet?

>

> Any advice is appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

What are you eating? Are you keeping a food diary?

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - 2.5 years

>

> Hello all-

>

> I have now been on SCD for 1 month and have not seen any improvements. It

seems like I am going to the bathroom more often now than I was before. Also, it

feels like my diarrhea has gotten worse. Does anyone have any advice? Should I

stay on the diet?

>

> Also, I am losing alot of weight... are there any foods that can help me with

weight gain? Is it common to lose a lot of weight on this diet?

>

> Any advice is appreciated!

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

> What are you eating? Are you keeping a food diary?

>

> Misty Kimble

> CD - no meds

> SCD - 2.5 years

>

>

>>

>> Hello all-

>>

>> I have now been on SCD for 1 month and have not seen any improvements. It

seems like I am going to the bathroom more often now than I was before. Also, it

feels like my diarrhea has gotten worse. Does anyone have any advice? Should I

stay on the diet?

>>

>> Also, I am losing alot of weight... are there any foods that can help me with

weight gain? Is it common to lose a lot of weight on this diet?

Yes - it can be quite common in the first month or two to lose a lot of weight

on the diet.

Some people continue losing weight, other people regularize and then turn around

and gain the weight back. And then it can even be hard to keep weight off after

a while.

Mara, falling, unfortunately, in the last category at the moment.

[Guest guest]

“Some people continue losing weight, other people regularize and then turn around

and gain the weight back. And then it can

even be hard to keep weight off after a while”

Boy, my son would love to have this problem! I don’t understand

though why weight gain would become such an issue given how balanced and

healthy this way of eating is. Can anyone explain this?

Eileen Cawood

email: parvus@...

From: BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of Mara Schiffren

Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2010

9:17 AM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Re: Re: 1

month on SCD and no improvements

> What are you eating? Are you keeping a food diary?

>

> Misty Kimble

> CD - no meds

> SCD - 2.5 years

>

>

>>

>> Hello all-

>>

>> I have now been on SCD for 1 month and have not seen any improvements.

It seems like I am going to the bathroom more often now than I was before.

Also, it feels like my diarrhea has gotten worse. Does anyone have any advice?

Should I stay on the diet?

>>

>> Also, I am losing alot of weight... are there any foods that can help

me with weight gain? Is it common to lose a lot of weight on this diet?

Yes - it can be quite common in the first month or two to lose a lot of weight

on the diet.

Some people continue losing weight, other people regularize and then turn

around

and gain the weight back. And then it can even be hard to keep weight off after

a while.

Mara, falling, unfortunately, in the last category at the moment.

[Guest guest]

LOL Yes, being middle aged, this is a problem!! My teen aged kids can eat

anything all day long, but not me. I doubt weight gain would be an issue for a

teen or younger person on SCD.

When everything went through me, I lost weight. Now I believe my gut is healed

enough to absorb calories, and I have to watch them in any form.

One can eat a lot on SCD. Carbs, nuts, honey- all these can put on weight. I do

have to say it is not as big a problem than when I ate anything, but I do have

to watch it. I had to watch it pre-scd and now that I am feeling better,

thankfully, I have to watch it. However, this tells me that my gut is now

absorbing what I eat.

There is some theory about gut bacteria contributing to weight gain by breaking

down food products and releasing more calories too. I do not know the source.

PJ

> >>

> >> Hello all-

> >>

> >> I have now been on SCD for 1 month and have not seen any improvements. It

> seems like I am going to the bathroom more often now than I was before.

> Also, it feels like my diarrhea has gotten worse. Does anyone have any

> advice? Should I stay on the diet?

> >>

> >> Also, I am losing alot of weight... are there any foods that can help me

> with weight gain? Is it common to lose a lot of weight on this diet?

>

> Yes - it can be quite common in the first month or two to lose a lot of

> weight on the diet.

> Some people continue losing weight, other people regularize and then turn

> around

> and gain the weight back. And then it can even be hard to keep weight off

> after a while.

>

> Mara, falling, unfortunately, in the last category at the moment.

>

[Guest guest]

At 08:25 AM 7/7/2010, you wrote:

Boy, my son would love to have this

problem! I don’t understand though why weight gain would become such an

issue given how balanced and healthy this way of eating is. Can anyone

explain this?

Well, you know, I'd be very happy to donate about a hundred pounds to

some of the light-weights on this list. My particular form of gut issues

includes unwarranted weight gain, not weight loss.

What SCD does in the long run is normalize our weight -- those who need

to gain usually do, and those who need to lose usually do.

However, for the thin folks, one of the issues can be a lack of appetite,

and often, people don't realize how little they are eating until the

weight starts falling off.

Contrariwise, those who have felt ill when eating for so long now enjoy

eating, and may go a trifle overboard.

The whacko part is that fats are the friends of both the thin folks,

because it gives them more calories for less food, and the larger folk,

because good fats help us feel satisfied sooner.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

On Wed, 07 Jul 2010 19:51:24 -0400, Wizop Marilyn L. Alm wrote:> At 08:25 AM 7/7/2010, you wrote:>> Boy, my son would love to have this problem! I>> don’t understand though why weight gain would>> become such an issue given how balanced and>> healthy this way of eating is. Can anyone explain this?>> Well, you know, I'd be very happy to donate about> a hundred pounds to some of the light-weights on> this list. My particular form of gut issues> includes unwarranted weight gain, not weight loss.>> What SCD does in the long run is normalize our> weight -- those who need to gain usually do, and> those who need to lose usually do.>> However, for the thin folks, one of the issues> can be a lack of appetite, and often, people> don't realize how little they are eating until the weight starts falling > off.>> Contrariwise, those who have felt ill when eating> for so long now enjoy eating, and may go a trifle overboard.>> The whacko part is that fats are the friends of> both the thin folks, because it gives them more> calories for less food, and the larger folk,> because good fats help us feel satisfied sooner.>>> — MarilynOne "monkeywrench" in that equation (to mix metaphors!) is taking LDN with the diet. The LDN is phenomenally helpful, but in some of us it prevents weight gain. So when I got on the SCD and gradually lost and lost and lost weight, 60+ pounds-worth (I wasn't much overweight in the first place), I couldn't, and haven't, been able to gain any back. I no longer have abdominal pain and eat like the proverbial horse, including as much fruit, honey, etc., as I want, but it doesn't matter what I eat. Now I'm too thin. But I guess I'd rather have that problem than to have to continue to worry about weight gain, as I had for the rest of my life before a year-and-a-half ago.n

[Guest guest]

Well, random event happened yesterday...I suddenly had a change of symptoms...

going from 8 times a day to 2-3 times a day. Can the change in symptoms really

happen that sudden? It has really shocked me and given me more faith in the

diet. I did the intro diet and have then followed the diet strictly. I did not

follow the stage process because I found myself starving all the time. I used to

take Lialda and Asacol but both of them ended up making me feel VERY nauseous

(so I stopped those). My doctor felt like it was very important for me to stay

on them and did not believe me when I said I was nauseous... so I stopped the

meds without telling him.

From yesterday, I have been starting to gain weight back and I have a lot more

energy (I am also taking B vitamins to help give me more energy from my food),

which is great because I am starting my new job on Monday.

As of right now, it seems like the diet is doing what it is supposed to. Maybe I

just needed that downturn to make things turn even better.

Thank you for all the advice!

> >

> > Hello all-

> >

> > I have now been on SCD for 1 month and have not seen any improvements. It

seems like I am going to the bathroom more often now than I was before. Also, it

feels like my diarrhea has gotten worse. Does anyone have any advice? Should I

stay on the diet?

> >

> > Also, I am losing alot of weight... are there any foods that can help me

with weight gain? Is it common to lose a lot of weight on this diet?

> >

> > Any advice is appreciated!

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi - that is amazing news- congrats! Every one's experience is a little

different, but I do think it's the diet working. And don't be discouraged if you

go back to 8 times a day before hitting 2-3 again. I know when I started, I

expected the results to be gradual and predictable... but I found out quickly

that it's " non-linear " (as the moderators put it). That's why keeping a journal

is so fun. I actually graph the number of times a day I go because I can see the

overall trend of it going down even though from a day to day basis I am up and

down.

Keep up the good work!

-Joanna

SCD 9/2009, Crohn's 1992, 30mg Prednisone

>

> Well, random event happened yesterday...I suddenly had a change of symptoms...

going from 8 times a day to 2-3 times a day. Can the change in symptoms really

happen that sudden? It has really shocked me and given me more faith in the

diet.

[Guest guest]

This another " everyone is different " bit. I gained weight after about 6 months

on SCD, and gained some more once I started LDN. This was all good of course,

because I needed it! Two other people here have told me that they've gained

while on LDN as well.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> One " monkeywrench " in that equation (to mix metaphors!) is taking LDN with

> the diet. The LDN is phenomenally helpful, but in some of us it prevents

> weight gain. So when I got on the SCD and gradually lost and lost and lost

> weight, 60+ pounds-worth (I wasn't much overweight in the first place), I

> couldn't, and haven't, been able to gain any back. I no longer have

> abdominal pain and eat like the proverbial horse, including as much fruit,

> honey, etc., as I want, but it doesn't matter what I eat. Now I'm too

> thin. But I guess I'd rather have that problem than to have to continue to

> worry about weight gain, as I had for the rest of my life before a

> year-and-a-half ago.

>

> n

>

[Guest guest]

At 05:03 PM 7/8/2010, you wrote:

As of right now, it seems like

the diet is doing what it is supposed to. Maybe I just needed that

downturn to make things turn even better.

Sometimes, it seems as if nothing will ever get better. That's yet

another reason to keep a food and event diary. Because when you look back

through it, you can not only trouble shoot foods which might be an issue

for you, but you can see, " By golly, was it REALLY that bad three

weeks ago? " and you realize how far you've come.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle