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Hi Bob

I think I joined the board right after you had surgery and I remember

reading a post from you a few months back where you were telling us

that you had had a relapse. I am so sorry to hear about that. Can't

imagine what going through all of this must be like. Well at least

you now know a date for when you can go in and hopefully get it all

sorted out. Were you wired the first time around and will you be this

time? Just wondering if being wired reduces the chances of a relapse

or if it's irrelevant. Has the doctor given you any indication of if

your swelling will be worse post-surgery this time around? My guess

is that it won't be. Please don't worry too much about what they

think at work. The most important thing right now is that you take

care of your health. You won't be much of a worker if in pain all the

time. And you have every justification in the world to be missing

more days of work. I don't think any of the people at work would want

to be in your shoes.

Remember we're here for you, always ready to give you a big virtual

group hug and ready to listen. Sending you lots of positive vibes.

Sara

> I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar names on

here

> anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon

yesterday

> regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar

7,.....Not

> much of an explaination ,he said certainly this kind of thing is

not

> anticipated,happens rarely and likely somthin to do with the jaw

> joint.......So I have a week to try to beef up a bit as he is going

to

> re-do it May 23.....I am still pretty much numb lip/chin,...gums

are

> just startin to wake up,....and I am still very puffy....I can only

> imagine what I'm going to look and feel like after I get whacked

> again.....At work there going to think I will go to anything length

to

> get summer holidays ,....anyhow ,I'm just heading to work now to

break

> them the news that I going to need another 3 or 4 weeks

off,....good

> thing I have a ton of sick days saved up!!......

>

> Have a good weekend everyone

> ttyl

> Bob

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Bob,

So sorry to hear of your plight. I sure do hope that things go well

with your second surgery - and that they stay well!

You'll be in our thoughts ...

Take care,

Carol

> I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar names on

here

> anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon yesterday

> regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar

7,.....Not

> much of an explaination ,he said certainly this kind of thing is not

> anticipated,happens rarely and likely somthin to do with the jaw

> joint.......So I have a week to try to beef up a bit as he is going

to

> re-do it May23.....I am still pretty much numb lip/chin,...gums are

> just startin to wake up,....and I am still very puffy....I can only

> imagine what I'm going to look and feel like after I get whacked

> again.....At work there going to think I will go to anything length

to

> get summer holidays ,....anyhow I'm just heading to work now to

break

> them the news that I going to need another 3 or 4 weeks off,....good

> thing I have a ton of sick days saved up...

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Bob

I can't believe that you have to go through this again. I can't

imagine having to do this again. I would if there was no other

alternative, but I would not be happy about it. Good luck with your

2nd surgery, and I hope that this one turns out the way it is

supposed to.

> I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar names on

here

> anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon

yesterday

> regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar

7,.....Not

> much of an explaination ,he said certainly this kind of thing is

not

> anticipated,happens rarely and likely somthin to do with the jaw

> joint.......So I have a week to try to beef up a bit as he is

going to

> re-do it May23.....I am still pretty much numb lip/chin,...gums

are

> just startin to wake up,....and I am still very puffy....I can

only

> imagine what I'm going to look and feel like after I get whacked

> again.....At work there going to think I will go to anything

length to

> get summer holidays ,....anyhow I'm just heading to work now to

break

> them the news that I going to need another 3 or 4 weeks

off,....good

> thing I have a ton of sick days saved up...

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Hi Bob,

I'm sorry your surgery was not a success. I can't imagine having to

go through this all over again. I wish you lots of strength and best

of luck. From what I've read on this side, the second time around the

swelling is not as bad.

Irene.

> I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar names on here

> anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon yesterday

> regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar 7,.....Not

> much of an explaination ,he said certainly this kind of thing is not

> anticipated,happens rarely and likely somthin to do with the jaw

> joint.......So I have a week to try to beef up a bit as he is going to

> re-do it May 23.....I am still pretty much numb lip/chin,...gums are

> just startin to wake up,....and I am still very puffy....I can only

> imagine what I'm going to look and feel like after I get whacked

> again.....At work there going to think I will go to anything length to

> get summer holidays ,....anyhow ,I'm just heading to work now to break

> them the news that I going to need another 3 or 4 weeks off,....good

> thing I have a ton of sick days saved up!!......

>

> Have a good weekend everyone

> ttyl

> Bob

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> > I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar names on

here

> > anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon yesterday

> > regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar

7,.....Not

Bob, My name is Michele. I just had my second surgery, my first was

just 3 weeks ago. I had 2 broken screws and an infection. I can tell

you the scond time around seems much easier. I just can home from

hospital yesterday. I too was still very numb and swollen, numb seems

the same but I am much more swollen then I was the first time. I think

it's a bit easier the second time because you know just what your

getting into. All and all I'm doing well and I do wish you the same

luck. We deserve better luck the second time around.

Michele

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Hi Bob,

Good luck with your surgery later this month. It will go tons better

this second time around. YOu know what to expect and how to handle it

and everything will fall into place just fine!

I have been having my own fun so you aren't alone. I saw my ortho a

couple weeks ago and had one band put on one side to restart all my

ortho work. Well, that started pulling the one side of my upper jaw

down (It was split to be expanded) and I observed that the upper was

still loose... hasn't yet healed solidly. The whole upper jaw moves.

The OS said that was normal and told me to ask ortho about getting a

band on the other side of my mouth to even out the huge slant to my

upper teeth. So, orth then added a heavy band to the other side. That

evened everything out, but I noticed that my upper jaw was super

loose and practically " wiggly " . If I tried to put my teeth together

in a bite position, the upper teeth/jaw totally moved. So I called

the OS. He said all the bands were too soon and that the bone needed

more time to heal. My clenching and grinding at night definitely

don't help the cause, but I can't help that at all. So I took all the

bands off and he put me back on a mush diet. Now that one side that

was higher than the other seems to no longer be level with out the

band holding it even with the other side. I guess it will be healing

that way which I am totally unhappy about. SO! All I can do is hope

it will finally heal solidly and that the slight angle will be

corrected with ortho along with everything else ortho has left to do

to fix my bite. IF NOT, my OS said I will need a second surgery to

graft bone from my hip to attatch to my very thin and delicate upper

jaw. I am hoping and praying that it doesn't come to that. Oh, and I

was supposed to be healed by now... I am going to Russia for a month

in two weeks... I went to a new PCP last week and he wondered why my

blood pressure is so high?!!? HA HA And while I'm at it, I had a mole

removed that was almost considered to be malignant melanoma, so I

have to have a second procedure and have more tissue around the area

cut out just to be sure. Sometimes it feels like my body doesn't want

to be my friend.

So, the point is that I totally commiserate with you. I guess the

best you can do is get it over with and done and behind you as soon

as possible.... I log on and don't see many familiar names anymore

either... but I haven't been on as much myself because I'm so damned

busy these days trying to get ready for my trip AND go to the OS or

Ortho every other day it seems....

Take care and I will be thinking about you on the 23rd.

Katja

> I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar names on

here

> anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon

yesterday

> regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar

7,.....Not

> much of an explaination ,he said certainly this kind of thing is

not

> anticipated,happens rarely and likely somthin to do with the jaw

> joint.......So I have a week to try to beef up a bit as he is going

to

> re-do it May 23.....I am still pretty much numb lip/chin,...gums

are

> just startin to wake up,....and I am still very puffy....I can only

> imagine what I'm going to look and feel like after I get whacked

> again.....At work there going to think I will go to anything length

to

> get summer holidays ,....anyhow ,I'm just heading to work now to

break

> them the news that I going to need another 3 or 4 weeks

off,....good

> thing I have a ton of sick days saved up!!......

>

> Have a good weekend everyone

> ttyl

> Bob

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Katja

I am sorry to hear about your unfortunate movement. I started

reading posts when you were around 3 or 4 weeks post op, and I had

just assumed that all was going well with you since oyu hadn't

posted for a while. I hope that everything straightens out for you.

That would be horrible for you to have to go through this again.

> > I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar names

on

> here

> > anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon

> yesterday

> > regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar

> 7,.....Not

> > much of an explaination ,he said certainly this kind of thing is

> not

> > anticipated,happens rarely and likely somthin to do with the jaw

> > joint.......So I have a week to try to beef up a bit as he is

going

> to

> > re-do it May 23.....I am still pretty much numb lip/chin,...gums

> are

> > just startin to wake up,....and I am still very puffy....I can

only

> > imagine what I'm going to look and feel like after I get whacked

> > again.....At work there going to think I will go to anything

length

> to

> > get summer holidays ,....anyhow ,I'm just heading to work now to

> break

> > them the news that I going to need another 3 or 4 weeks

> off,....good

> > thing I have a ton of sick days saved up!!......

> >

> > Have a good weekend everyone

> > ttyl

> > Bob

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Wow, Katja, that is so unfortunate. I'm so sorry for what you're

going through. I hope that it gets better, and that you don't have

to have that second procedure. Hope everything works out, especially

about your trip!

Bob, I gues I'm one of the " unfamiliar names " on here, but I was

really sorry to hear about your relapse. I hope it works the second

time around, and I will definitely be thinking about you on the

23rd.

Best wishes to you both,

Tarryn

> > > I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar

names

> on

> > here

> > > anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon

> > yesterday

> > > regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar

> > 7,.....Not

> > > much of an explaination ,he said certainly this kind of thing

is

> > not

> > > anticipated,happens rarely and likely somthin to do with the

jaw

> > > joint.......So I have a week to try to beef up a bit as he is

> going

> > to

> > > re-do it May 23.....I am still pretty much numb

lip/chin,...gums

> > are

> > > just startin to wake up,....and I am still very puffy....I can

> only

> > > imagine what I'm going to look and feel like after I get

whacked

> > > again.....At work there going to think I will go to anything

> length

> > to

> > > get summer holidays ,....anyhow ,I'm just heading to work now

to

> > break

> > > them the news that I going to need another 3 or 4 weeks

> > off,....good

> > > thing I have a ton of sick days saved up!!......

> > >

> > > Have a good weekend everyone

> > > ttyl

> > > Bob

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Hi ,

Thank you for your concern. Now that I am off the bands, my jaw seems

to be stiffening a bit. Hopefully by my check up next week thursday,

my upper jaw will be good to go. I am anxious to have it heal AND to

get going on all the orthodontics I have ahead of me!! Thank you for

your well wishes... I haven't posted much lately because this has

been such a downer that I haven't had the energy....

Thanks again!

Katja

> > > I feel a bit like a stranger as I don't see many familiar names

> on

> > here

> > > anymore...Just an update,....had my appt. with the surgeon

> > yesterday

> > > regarding my total relapsed surgery which was performed Mar

> > 7,.....Not

> > > much of an explaination ,he said certainly this kind of thing

is

> > not

> > > anticipated,happens rarely and likely somthin to do with the

jaw

> > > joint.......So I have a week to try to beef up a bit as he is

> going

> > to

> > > re-do it May 23.....I am still pretty much numb

lip/chin,...gums

> > are

> > > just startin to wake up,....and I am still very puffy....I can

> only

> > > imagine what I'm going to look and feel like after I get

whacked

> > > again.....At work there going to think I will go to anything

> length

> > to

> > > get summer holidays ,....anyhow ,I'm just heading to work now

to

> > break

> > > them the news that I going to need another 3 or 4 weeks

> > off,....good

> > > thing I have a ton of sick days saved up!!......

> > >

> > > Have a good weekend everyone

> > > ttyl

> > > Bob

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