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My homeopath put me on Nordic Naturals Arctic Cod Liver Oil,

liquid

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BTVC-SCD [mailto:BTVC-SCD ] On Behalf Of

Arjonillo

Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 10:04 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: Soya Oil

Hi, I’m

and a new member to this group. My daughter is 1 month on SCD. She has

been taking cod liver oil for the last three years. I just discovered that it

contains vitamin E extracted from soya oil which is included in the illegal

list.

If I stop the cod liver oil, any suggestion on the possible replacement?

Thanks.

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Hey Alyssa, when do you take that? First thing in the morning before eating? Do you find it makes a difference if you are having it on an empty stomach or not - as recommended?I didn't know you were supposed to take it on an empty stomach!! Where does it say that? I take it with food.Also - for anyone who has used both - do you feel having the fish oil/butter combo really makesa difference or not? I have no idea because that's all I've ever used...I do eat plenty of butter though so I might just get the fish oil next time =) Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 12.5 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

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Hey Alyssa, when do you take that? First thing in the morning before eating? Do you find it makes a difference if you are having it on an empty stomach or not - as recommended?I didn't know you were supposed to take it on an empty stomach!! Where does it say that? I take it with food.I was looking at the blurb for the capsules - maybe the non capsulated FCLO is different:http://www.nutrivene.com/view_item.php?ProductID=253 & PHPSESSID=77235d79af572c9ec287466277c9581dIt is always best to take the CLO on an empty stomach (2 hours after eating and then wait 45-minutes to eat after taking CLO). And as Dr. Price discovered, always take CLO with High Vitamin Butter Oil for maximum effectiveness. Also - for anyone who has used both - do you feel having the fish oil/butter com! bo really makesa difference or not? I have no idea because that's all I've ever used...I do eat plenty of butter though so I might just get the fish oil next time =)Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 12.5 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

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That's quite odd.

I would call them to see what they are talking about.

I'd then ask Green Pastures.

So much conflicting data out there.

Jodi

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I got butter oil capsules, though I'm kind of like Alyssa here, I use so

much butter at the moment that I wonder if I need the more concentrated

form?

I've just figured out my best plan yet to get the FCLO down. I was

chasing it with something sharp like a pickle. But that still had

time to coat my mouth. I found rather by accident that what works

even better is to have a couple of bites of something already in my mouth

and then take the FCLO, the food manages to grab it so you don't get that

undelicious taste. Even something as bland as chicken bites work

for me. I'm determined to make this work now as i know it's good

for us.

I definitely take it with food! This is not a taste treat I want

between meals!

> Hey Alyssa, when do you take that? First thing in the morning > before eating? Do you find it makes a

> difference if you are having it on an empty stomach or not - as > recommended?

I didn't know you were supposed to take it on an empty stomach!!

Where does it say that? I take it with food.

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> Also - for anyone who has used both - do you feel having the

fish > oil/butter combo really makes

> a difference or not?

I have no idea because that's all I've ever used...I do eat plenty of butter though so I might just get the fish oil next time =)

Cheers!

Alyssa 16 yo

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why not get the capsules then, instead of planning strategies on how to consume the teenyamount of the disgusting food taste?<g>MaraI got butter oil capsules, though I'm kind of like Alyssa here, I use so much butter at the moment that I wonder if I need the more concentrated form?I've just figured out my best plan yet to get the FCLO down. I was chasing it with something sharp like a pickle. But that still had time to coat my mouth. I found rather by accident that what works even better is to have a couple of bites of something already in my mouth and then take the FCLO, the food manages to grab it so you don't get that undelicious taste. Even something as bland as chicken bites work for me. I'm determined to make this work now as i know it's good for us. I definitely take it with food! This is not a taste treat I want between meals!> Hey Alyssa, when do you take that? First thing in the morning> before eating? Do you find it makes a> difference if you are having it on an empty stomach or not - as> recommended?I didn't know you were supposed to take it on an empty stomach!! Wheredoes it say that? I take it with food.>> Also - for anyone who has used both - do you feel having the fish> oil/butter combo really makes> a difference or not?I have no idea because that's all I've ever used...I do eat plenty ofbutter though so I might just get the fish oil next time =)Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo

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why not get the capsules then, instead of planning strategies on how to consume the teenyamount of the disgusting food taste?Expensive! Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 12.5 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

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It has 120 capsules - so that is 4 months at a capsule a day.How long does the oil last? Marawhy not get the capsules then, instead of planning strategies on how to consume the teenyamount of the disgusting food taste?Expensive!Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 12.5 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

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How long does the oil last? The site said that a bottle of capsules has 60 servings, while the gel has 96 servings. Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 12.5 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

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But the capsules are considerably cheaper - so I guess it all works out to about the same. and the dose is two capsules a day. MaraHow long does the oil last? The site said that a bottle of capsules has 60 servings, while the gel has 96 servings.Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Azathioprine 75 mg 1x per dayPrednisone 12.5 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

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You are right, I probably should, and maybe when I finish this I will.

But what with several protocols going, I have about twenty caps and

tablets to take per meal and it's really too much, so I try to find

things NOT in caps.

why not get the capsules then, instead of planning strategies on how

to consume the teeny

amount of the disgusting food taste?

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At 09:03 PM 8/4/2010, you wrote:

She has been taking cod liver

oil for the last three years. I just discovered that it contains vitamin

E extracted from soya oil which is included in the illegal

list.

Vitamin E from soy oil and lecithin from soy oil are not

illegal.

I'm anaphylactic to soy, and I can tolerate both. In my case, it's the

soy protein which is an issue, and soy protein is also the problem for

SCD.

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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Hi Marilyn,

Thanks for the info on vit e extracted from soya/soya bean oil. I was just wondering how does vit e extract become legal if the source is illegal?

Thanks,

7-yr old daughter on SCD 2 months

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At 07:55 PM 8/11/2010, you wrote:

Thanks for the info on vit e

extracted from soya/soya bean oil. I was just wondering how does

vit e extract become legal if the source is illegal?

Well, first of all, when I first started on SCD, soy oil wasn't illegal.

It was made illegal because some brands of soy oil still had small

amounts of soy protein in it because of improper processing, and some

individuals -- mostly children on Pecanbread -- reacted to that.

But the process of obtaining Vitamin E completely removes the soy

protein. It's just oil.

<smile> Consider: MILK is illegal. But BUTTER, which is

derived from milk, is not SCD-illegal. Same principle.

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

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