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Hi all,

I'm coming up to the 3 month mark and i've had a bad week. Die-off symptoms,

yeast flare-ups (getting sugar highs and stomach noises and upper stomach

uncomfortable after eating bananas and pecan butter and sweetened applesauce)

and the past couple days my acid reflux is just bad all the time, and gets worse

as the days go on. Today was worse than yesterday. Everything I ate has come

up in my throat a little, where I could taste it, with a lot of burping after

meals. And there's that overall chest burning that got worse throughout the

day. Going back through my food diary, I had noted heartburn symptoms

consistently for the first month, but after that, there wasn't much.

I'm wondering why this is coming back all the sudden? Is it bad bacteria

wreaking havoc on my body? I think that I have a low-acid problem so i've been

taking HCL pills. When I eat a meal with protein, the beginning of the meal i

get an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach, but once i get things going,

especially if i chew a lot, it goes away throughout the meal. I've been taking

HCL pills, I was pretty sure they were helping, but now i'm concerned they were

making it worse. And since i don't swallow the pill but mixed it with a drink,

I stopped taking them since its really sensitive right now. Anybody have any

ideas on heartburn going away and then coming back all the sudden? I have

occasionally gotten heartburn after eating meat that i forgot to take the grease

off, or occasionally with eggs, but recently it hasn't been bad, and is just a

heavy feeling in my stomach with just a little heartburn. The really bad

heartburn with eggs just happened in the beginning of the diet. But even now, I

do best with eggs when they are in pancakes or baked in something.

Any similar experience? Also, if someone has any ideas for dealing with

heartburn, I would be much appreciative :)

Ellen

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I don't have any answers except I go thru periods of heartburn/indigestion as well. I'll have it for a week or so and then it will go away for a few weeks. Mine will actually hurt in my upper back as well and I've never figured out a reason?? It is uncomfortable!

Marla

IBS-D 20 yrs

Questran

SCD 11/09

From: martinoellen@...

Sent: Friday, July 09, 2010 11:30 PM

To: BTVC-SCD

Subject: heartburn!!!

Hi all,I'm coming up to the 3 month mark and i've had a bad week. Die-off symptoms, yeast flare-ups (getting sugar highs and stomach noises and upper stomach uncomfortable after eating bananas and pecan butter and sweetened applesauce) and the past couple days my acid reflux is just bad all the time, and gets worse as the days go on. Today was worse than yesterday. Everything I ate has come up in my throat a little, where I could taste it, with a lot of burping after meals. And there's that overall chest burning that got worse throughout the day. Going back through my food diary, I had noted heartburn symptoms consistently for the first month, but after that, there wasn't much. I'm wondering why this is coming back all the sudden? Is it bad bacteria wreaking havoc on my body? I think that I have a low-acid problem so i've been taking HCL pills. When I eat a meal with protein, the beginning of the meal i get an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach, but once i get things going, especially if i chew a lot, it goes away throughout the meal. I've been taking HCL pills, I was pretty sure they were helping, but now i'm concerned they were making it worse. And since i don't swallow the pill but mixed it with a drink, I stopped taking them since its really sensitive right now. Anybody have any ideas on heartburn going away and then coming back all the sudden? I have occasionally gotten heartburn after eating meat that i forgot to take the grease off, or occasionally with eggs, but recently it hasn't been bad, and is just a heavy feeling in my stomach with just a little heartburn. The really bad heartburn with eggs just happened in the beginning of the diet. But even now, I do best with eggs when they are in pancakes or baked in something.Any similar experience? Also, if someone has any ideas for dealing with heartburn, I would be much appreciative :)Ellen

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Try taking half a teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water. It'll

help with the heartburn and my former doctor who was a bit of an

expert on yeast issues once told me it does something to create a more

hostile environment for candida. I get heartburn when my yeast issues

flare up; I'm not sure why, but my theory is that it has something to

do with my body trying to fight it off and changing stomach acid

levels to kill the bad bugs.

fiona

On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:30 PM, martinoellen@...

wrote:

>

>

>

> Hi all,

>

> I'm coming up to the 3 month mark and i've had a bad week. Die-off symptoms,

yeast flare-ups (getting sugar highs and stomach noises and upper stomach

uncomfortable after eating bananas and pecan butter and sweetened applesauce)

and the past couple days my acid reflux is just bad all the time, and gets worse

as the days go on. Today was worse than yesterday. Everything I ate has come up

in my throat a little, where I could taste it, with a lot of burping after

meals. And there's that overall chest burning that got worse throughout the day.

Going back through my food diary, I had noted heartburn symptoms consistently

for the first month, but after that, there wasn't much.

>

> I'm wondering why this is coming back all the sudden? Is it bad bacteria

wreaking havoc on my body? I think that I have a low-acid problem so i've been

taking HCL pills. When I eat a meal with protein, the beginning of the meal i

get an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach, but once i get things going,

especially if i chew a lot, it goes away throughout the meal. I've been taking

HCL pills, I was pretty sure they were helping, but now i'm concerned they were

making it worse. And since i don't swallow the pill but mixed it with a drink, I

stopped taking them since its really sensitive right now. Anybody have any ideas

on heartburn going away and then coming back all the sudden? I have occasionally

gotten heartburn after eating meat that i forgot to take the grease off, or

occasionally with eggs, but recently it hasn't been bad, and is just a heavy

feeling in my stomach with just a little heartburn. The really bad heartburn

with eggs just happened in the beginning of the diet. But even now, I do best

with eggs when they are in pancakes or baked in something.

>

> Any similar experience? Also, if someone has any ideas for dealing with

heartburn, I would be much appreciative :)

>

> Ellen

>

>

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>>

>>

>> Hi all,

>>

>> I'm coming up to the 3 month mark and i've had a bad week. Die-off symptoms,

yeast flare-ups (getting sugar highs and stomach noises and upper stomach

uncomfortable after eating bananas and pecan butter and sweetened applesauce)

and the past couple days my acid reflux is just bad all the time, and gets worse

as the days go on. Today was worse than yesterday. Everything I ate has come up

in my throat a little, where I could taste it, with a lot of burping after

meals. And there's that overall chest burning that got worse throughout the day.

Going back through my food diary, I had noted heartburn symptoms consistently

for the first month, but after that, there wasn't much.

>>

>> I'm wondering why this is coming back all the sudden? Is it bad bacteria

wreaking havoc on my body?

3 month flare. Back off on more advanced foods and go back to easier foods and

lots of broth

for a while until some problems have resolved.

Mara

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Thanks, I don't really eat advanced foods. I have lots of chicken soup as it is. Also eat bananas, applesauce, apple cider, cranberry juice, avocados, tomato soup, green beans and zucchini sauteed in olive oil, zucchini-basil soup, asparagus soup, butternut squash, acorn squash, chicken and egg bread, unmarinated chicken, fish, canned tuna and salmon, chicken and turkey burgers. I have recently introduced red pepper into the tomato soup and wanted to try more stage 2 veggies soon. No ketchup or mayo cause it causes yeast issues. Tried pecan butter 2 or 3 times but not for a week or two due to yeast. Do stage 2 vegetables count as advanced food? I'll keep eating lots of chicken soup and not introduce anything for a while.

Thanks.EllenTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 8:58:30 AMSubject: Re: heartburn!!!

>>

>>

>>

>> Hi all,

>>

>> I'm coming up to the 3 month mark and i've had a bad week. Die-off symptoms, yeast flare-ups (getting sugar highs and stomach noises and upper stomach uncomfortable after eating bananas and pecan butter and sweetened applesauce) and the past couple days my acid reflux is just bad all the time, and gets worse as the days go on. Today was worse than yesterday. Everything I ate has come up in my throat a little, where I could taste it, with a lot of burping after meals. And there's that overall chest burning that got worse throughout the day. Going back through my food diary, I had noted heartburn symptoms consistently for the first month, but after that, there wasn't much.

>>

>> I'm wondering why this is coming back all the sudden? Is it bad bacteria wreaking havoc on my body?

3 month flare. Back off on more advanced foods and go back to easier foods and lots of broth

for a while until some problems have resolved.

Mara

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Very interesting. Nice to know there could be a connection. I'll definitely try the baking soda. Does it help before a meal or afterwards?EllenTo: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 8:49:52 AMSubject: Re: heartburn!!!

Try taking half a teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water. It'llhelp with the heartburn and my former doctor who was a bit of anexpert on yeast issues once told me it does something to create a morehostile environment for candida. I get heartburn when my yeast issuesflare up; I'm not sure why, but my theory is that it has something todo with my body trying to fight it off and changing stomach acidlevels to kill the bad bugs.fiona>>>> Hi all,>> I'm coming up to the 3 month mark and i've had a bad week. Die-off symptoms, yeast flare-ups (getting sugar highs and stomach noises and upper stomach

uncomfortable after eating bananas and pecan butter and sweetened applesauce) and the past couple days my acid reflux is just bad all the time, and gets worse as the days go on. Today was worse than yesterday. Everything I ate has come up in my throat a little, where I could taste it, with a lot of burping after meals. And there's that overall chest burning that got worse throughout the day. Going back through my food diary, I had noted heartburn symptoms consistently for the first month, but after that, there wasn't much.>> I'm wondering why this is coming back all the sudden? Is it bad bacteria wreaking havoc on my body? I think that I have a low-acid problem so i've been taking HCL pills. When I eat a meal with protein, the beginning of the meal i get an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach, but once i get things going, especially if i chew a lot, it goes away throughout the meal. I've been taking HCL pills, I was pretty sure they were

helping, but now i'm concerned they were making it worse. And since i don't swallow the pill but mixed it with a drink, I stopped taking them since its really sensitive right now. Anybody have any ideas on heartburn going away and then coming back all the sudden? I have occasionally gotten heartburn after eating meat that i forgot to take the grease off, or occasionally with eggs, but recently it hasn't been bad, and is just a heavy feeling in my stomach with just a little heartburn. The really bad heartburn with eggs just happened in the beginning of the diet. But even now, I do best with eggs when they are in pancakes or baked in something.>> Any similar experience? Also, if someone has any ideas for dealing with heartburn, I would be much appreciative :)>> Ellen>> ------------------------------------

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And how often do you use it??

Marla

From: Ellen o

Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 9:47 AM

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Subject: Re: heartburn!!!

Very interesting. Nice to know there could be a connection. I'll definitely try the baking soda. Does it help before a meal or afterwards?Ellen

From: fiona <fionakelly (AT) gmail (DOT) com>To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Sat, July 10, 2010 8:49:52 AMSubject: Re: heartburn!!!Try taking half a teaspoon of baking soda in a glass of water. It'llhelp with the heartburn and my former doctor who was a bit of anexpert on yeast issues once told me it does something to create a morehostile environment for candida. I get heartburn when my yeast issuesflare up; I'm not sure why, but my theory is that it has something todo with my body trying to fight it off and changing stomach acidlevels to kill the bad bugs.fionaOn Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 11:30 PM, martinoellen (AT) ymail (DOT) com<martinoellen (AT) ymail (DOT) com> wrote:>>>> Hi all,>> I'm coming up to the 3 month mark and i've had a bad week. Die-off symptoms, yeast flare-ups (getting sugar highs and stomach noises and upper stomach uncomfortable after eating bananas and pecan butter and sweetened applesauce) and the past couple days my acid reflux is just bad all the time, and gets worse as the days go on. Today was worse than yesterday. Everything I ate has come up in my throat a little, where I could taste it, with a lot of burping after meals. And there's that overall chest burning that got worse throughout the day. Going back through my food diary, I had noted heartburn symptoms consistently for the first month, but after that, there wasn't much.>> I'm wondering why this is coming back all the sudden? Is it bad bacteria wreaking havoc on my body? I think that I have a low-acid problem so i've been taking HCL pills. When I eat a meal with protein, the beginning of the meal i get an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach, but once i get things going, especially if i chew a lot, it goes away throughout the meal. I've been taking HCL pills, I was pretty sure they were helping, but now i'm concerned they were making it worse. And since i don't swallow the pill but mixed it with a drink, I stopped taking them since its really sensitive right now. Anybody have any ideas on heartburn going away and then coming back all the sudden? I have occasionally gotten heartburn after eating meat that i forgot to take the grease off, or occasionally with eggs, but recently it hasn't been bad, and is just a heavy feeling in my stomach with just a little heartburn. The really bad heartburn with eggs just happened in the beginning of the diet. But even now, I do best with eggs when they are in pancakes or baked in something.>> Any similar experience? Also, if someone has any ideas for dealing with heartburn, I would be much appreciative :)>> Ellen>> ------------------------------------

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ok that's weird - i've had some lately and my tongue was fine so doc said she

doubted i had yeast in the throat and not mouth but that's all I kept thinking

is that it's yeast related - she said possibly so i'm so trying your idea now!

oh and we have (had) the same last name -LOL i used to be a kelly

eileen

> >

> >

> >

> > Hi all,

> >

> > I'm coming up to the 3 month mark and i've had a bad week. Die-off symptoms,

yeast flare-ups (getting sugar highs and stomach noises and upper stomach

uncomfortable after eating bananas and pecan butter and sweetened applesauce)

and the past couple days my acid reflux is just bad all the time, and gets worse

as the days go on. Today was worse than yesterday. Everything I ate has come up

in my throat a little, where I could taste it, with a lot of burping after

meals. And there's that overall chest burning that got worse throughout the day.

Going back through my food diary, I had noted heartburn symptoms consistently

for the first month, but after that, there wasn't much.

> >

> > I'm wondering why this is coming back all the sudden? Is it bad bacteria

wreaking havoc on my body? I think that I have a low-acid problem so i've been

taking HCL pills. When I eat a meal with protein, the beginning of the meal i

get an uncomfortable feeling in my stomach, but once i get things going,

especially if i chew a lot, it goes away throughout the meal. I've been taking

HCL pills, I was pretty sure they were helping, but now i'm concerned they were

making it worse. And since i don't swallow the pill but mixed it with a drink, I

stopped taking them since its really sensitive right now. Anybody have any ideas

on heartburn going away and then coming back all the sudden? I have occasionally

gotten heartburn after eating meat that i forgot to take the grease off, or

occasionally with eggs, but recently it hasn't been bad, and is just a heavy

feeling in my stomach with just a little heartburn. The really bad heartburn

with eggs just happened in the beginning of the diet. But even now, I do best

with eggs when they are in pancakes or baked in something.

> >

> > Any similar experience? Also, if someone has any ideas for dealing with

heartburn, I would be much appreciative :)

> >

> > Ellen

> >

> >

>

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'> Very interesting. Nice to know there could be a connection. I'll

definitely try the baking soda. Does it help before a meal or

afterwards?

>

> Ellen: I tend to just use it when heartburn occurs without any real thought to

food since I eat every two hours or so.

>

> And how often do you use it??

>

> Marla: I don't do it more than twice a day because too much can interfere

with absorption of mineral and nutrients. At least, that's what seems to happen

if I try and do it four or five times a day in the mistaken belief that more

must be better.

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