Re: Single SCDieters

[Guest guest]

I have a lot of the same concerns. Everyone wants to go out to dinner on the

first date. I have like 4 safe places here in Baton Rouge and the food isn't

that cheap. What I do is suggest a place I can eat that way I don't have to be

scared and then I usually explain about the diet while I'm on the first date. So

far everyone has been ok with it and wanted to go on a second date. My friend

warned me against telling at first, but it's such a major part of my life, I

couldn't imagine not sharing it.

I'm sorry, I can't help you find a fellow SCDer. I only know 4 others in my

direct vicinity and they are all women. <sigh>

Ultimately, I'd like to find someone to share my life with that understands my

situation, embraces it and lives through it with me. Someone like Marilyn's

husband Harry would be great. However, you're right in saying you need someone

that has either lived it or lived through it with you. Some people I've dated

have a hard time understanding my situation because they never have digestive

issues and they have never lived through it with someone.

Good luck to you!!!

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - Jan 2008

>

> This may seem a little random so I will explain, I am a young guy and have

found the SCDiet an absolute life saver and am absolutely disciplined to

strictly staying on the diet.

> Even though its just a diet/food it really is more of a lifestyle then

anything I feel. I have a good job keep fit and cant really complain about much

except socially I find this diet can be really restrictive and I guess I feel

like it would be hard for someone who hadn't struggled with digestive issues and

or eat to a strict regime like the SCDiet to really understand.

> For this reason I really want to meet someone in a similar situation,

dieatary/lifestyle etc. Ideally an Aussie/Syd SCDieter.

> If there is anyone who feels the same or any ideas on how other people

approach this aspect of there life on the SCDiet I would be interested to hear

from you. Thanks for reading.

>

[Guest guest]

I am hoping this will give other single SCDers hope. I met my fiance online after I'd done quite a bit of healing, and I'm extremely fortunate that he has only ever been supportive of my eating and the lifestyle that goes along with it. He had no previous experience with digestive issues, but he's been only the best about it and I told him very early on. The most heart warming part of it all is that he loves being able to find things he can make for me - like squash fries, grilling and a couple other things. He likes to ask me each time he makes the squash fries, "Are they the best ever?" I'm very lucky, and I thank you for reminding me of that! There are people out there that can and will accept you for just who you are and what you eat!

Subject: Re: Single SCDietersTo: BTVC-SCD Date: Monday, August 9, 2010, 12:14 PM

I have a lot of the same concerns. Everyone wants to go out to dinner on the first date. I have like 4 safe places here in Baton Rouge and the food isn't that cheap. What I do is suggest a place I can eat that way I don't have to be scared and then I usually explain about the diet while I'm on the first date. So far everyone has been ok with it and wanted to go on a second date. My friend warned me against telling at first, but it's such a major part of my life, I couldn't imagine not sharing it.I'm sorry, I can't help you find a fellow SCDer. I only know 4 others in my direct vicinity and they are all women. <sigh>Ultimately, I'd like to find someone to share my life with that understands my situation, embraces it and lives through it with me. Someone like Marilyn's husband Harry would be great. However, you're right in saying you need someone that has either lived it or lived through it with you. Some people I've dated have a

hard time understanding my situation because they never have digestive issues and they have never lived through it with someone. Good luck to you!!!Misty KimbleCD - no medsSCD - Jan 2008>> This may seem a little random so I will explain, I am a young guy and have found the SCDiet an absolute life saver and am absolutely disciplined to strictly staying on the diet. > Even though its just a diet/food it really is more of a lifestyle then anything I feel. I have a good job keep fit and cant really complain about much except socially I find this diet can be really restrictive and I guess I feel like it would be hard for someone who hadn't struggled with digestive issues and

or eat to a strict regime like the SCDiet to really understand. > For this reason I really want to meet someone in a similar situation, dieatary/lifestyle etc. Ideally an Aussie/Syd SCDieter. > If there is anyone who feels the same or any ideas on how other people approach this aspect of there life on the SCDiet I would be interested to hear from you. Thanks for reading.>

[Guest guest]

Until 8 months ago, I was a single gal, out there dating, and I found that a fun

first date doesn't have to involve going to a restaurant. My boyfriend & I went

for a hike with all of our dogs for our first date, and I brought along special

yummy snacks that fit along with my diet.

Here are some other first date ideas:

*meet for a picnic in a park (you can bring all the right scd legal foods, and

your date can be in charge of brining the picnic blanket and board games)

*rent kayaks, a canoe, or small boat at a local water area (I live in Oregon and

we have a lot of options like this, although you might not have them near by)

*meet for a simple walk in the park, go to the zoo, maybe visit a local rose

garden

*go to a rodeo, fair, or concert event

*take a dance lesson (a lot of western & latin dance clubs have an open " dance

lesson " on Friday nights)

*go pick fruits, veggies, pumpkins, etc, at a local farm, we have big farms in

the area that also throw out door concerts on the lawn and everyone brings their

own picnic blankets

Oh, and I met my boyfriend, the sweetest man ever (on craigslist of all places),

just before I was getting really sick [again], and I am just thankful he has

been there for me & able to put up with all my hurt tummy complaining! (When I

met him I was gluten free & dairy free, but then got hit pretty hard, and

finally found SCD) And I know what a big part of our lives this diet plays, and

no matter what it ends up becoming part of the conversation really quickly! It's

hard not to start talking about scd when at an event (funeral, wedding, baby

shower) and everyone asks " why aren't you are eating " or " why did you bring your

own food " I end up telling the all about SCD whether or not they wanted to know

about it;)

I am just thankful to have found such a supportive man. This last weekend we

butchered up a fresh 20lb albacore tuna fish, and smoked it all SCD legal.

Smoked Albacore is my most favorite food ever! He also had purchased spaghetti

squash, pears, and acorn squash for my weekend visit, and took me to breakfast

at the one place he knew I could get a nice shrimp & spinich omelette. I am just

continually thankful he doesn't mind listening to me cause while I am getting

better, I am still experiencing painful symptoms, not nearly as bad, but I am

still not 100%.

take care!

-

SCD 9 weeks

> >

> > This may seem a little random so I will explain, I am a young guy and have

found the SCDiet an absolute life saver and am absolutely disciplined to

strictly staying on the diet.

> > Even though its just a diet/food it really is more of a lifestyle then

anything I feel. I have a good job keep fit and cant really complain about much

except socially I find this diet can be really restrictive and I guess I feel

like it would be hard for someone who hadn't struggled with digestive issues and

or eat to a strict regime like the SCDiet to really understand.

> > For this reason I really want to meet someone in a similar situation,

dieatary/lifestyle etc. Ideally an Aussie/Syd SCDieter.

> > If there is anyone who feels the same or any ideas on how other people

approach this aspect of there life on the SCDiet I would be interested to hear

from you. Thanks for reading.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Misty, Thanks for the response and ideas, can I clarify that I am a young 26 yr old straight male seeking femail, resideing in AUs ideally Syd. cheers

To: BTVC-SCD Sent: Tue, 10 August, 2010 4:14:45 AMSubject: Re: Single SCDieters

I have a lot of the same concerns. Everyone wants to go out to dinner on the first date. I have like 4 safe places here in Baton Rouge and the food isn't that cheap. What I do is suggest a place I can eat that way I don't have to be scared and then I usually explain about the diet while I'm on the first date. So far everyone has been ok with it and wanted to go on a second date. My friend warned me against telling at first, but it's such a major part of my life, I couldn't imagine not sharing it.I'm sorry, I can't help you find a fellow SCDer. I only know 4 others in my direct vicinity and they are all women. <sigh>Ultimately, I'd like to find someone to share my life with that understands my situation, embraces it and lives through it with me. Someone like Marilyn's husband Harry would be great. However, you're right in saying you need someone that has either lived it or lived through it with you. Some people I've dated have a

hard time understanding my situation because they never have digestive issues and they have never lived through it with someone. Good luck to you!!!Misty KimbleCD - no medsSCD - Jan 2008>> This may seem a little random so I will explain, I am a young guy and have found the SCDiet an absolute life saver and am absolutely disciplined to strictly staying on the diet. > Even though its just a diet/food it really is more of a lifestyle then anything I feel. I have a good job keep fit and cant really complain about much except socially I find this diet can be really restrictive and I guess I feel like it would be hard for someone who hadn't struggled with digestive issues and or eat to a strict regime like the

SCDiet to really understand. > For this reason I really want to meet someone in a similar situation, dieatary/lifestyle etc. Ideally an Aussie/Syd SCDieter. > If there is anyone who feels the same or any ideas on how other people approach this aspect of there life on the SCDiet I would be interested to hear from you. Thanks for reading.>

[Guest guest]

Just wanted to say that SCDers are not alone. There's other diets that are quite similar and if you met someone following that diet in real life, they probably wouldn't even have to question what you are going through.

Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) diet, Weston A Price Foundation (WAPF), Body Ecology Diet (BED), Primal diet, Paleo diet, Low carb dietIt might not be that easy to meet someone in your hometown, but it's worth at least joining some online groups for these diets and asking around. I have been meeting people online for a long time and have never really had a bad experience. I haven't dated any guys I met online (met my BF in university) but if I was single I'd probably try it out.

There is a Facebook group for SCDers with a discussion thread going on about where people live (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5487154796 & ref=search#!/group.php?gid=2215406763 & ref=ts). A lot of people on here have also said where they live too. I'm pretty sure there's a WAPF singles group as well (http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5487154796 & ref=search). Mark's Daily Apple (primal diet) has a forum topic for singles too.http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

To meet people in real life who are more aware of diets and digestive problems: health food stores, farmers markets, local raw milk pickups, through friends (amazing how many people you find out have food sensitivities when you open up to your friends about it)

Things to do on a first date: comedy club (my first date with my BF, it was so fun!), movie, theater, bowlingKathttp://scdkat.com

>> This may seem a little random so I will explain, I am a young guy and have found the SCDiet an absolute life saver and am absolutely disciplined to strictly staying on the diet. > Even though its just a diet/food it really is more of a lifestyle then anything I feel. I have a good job keep fit and cant really complain about much except socially I find this diet can be really restrictive and I guess I feel like it would be hard for someone who hadn't struggled with digestive issues and

or eat to a strict regime like the SCDiet to really understand. > For this reason I really want to meet someone in a similar situation, dieatary/lifestyle etc. Ideally an Aussie/Syd SCDieter. > If there is anyone who feels the same or any ideas on how other people approach this aspect of there life on the SCDiet I would be interested to hear from you. Thanks for reading.

>

[Guest guest]

I met my first and only boyfriend on a message board. He ended up being a real

creepy loser, although it took me awhile to take off the blinders and

acknowledge it (probably because he was accepting of my crohn's, which coupled

with shyness, was why I'd never dated previously). Once I met his family (very

racist, foul-mouthed, hateful people who said terrible things to each other when

angry), I realized that being single was infinitely better then spending a

lifetime amongst people like that. I can't say I've been too interested in

hooking up with someone on the internet since ;-). I'm more or less resigned to

just remaining single. Things could be worse!

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> Just wanted to say that SCDers are not alone. There's other diets that are

> quite similar and if you met someone following that diet in real life, they

> probably wouldn't even have to question what you are going through.

>

> Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) diet, Weston A Price Foundation (WAPF),

> Body Ecology Diet (BED), Primal diet, Paleo diet, Low carb diet

>

> It might not be that easy to meet someone in your hometown, but it's worth

> at least joining some online groups for these diets and asking around. I

> have been meeting people online for a long time and have never really had a

> bad experience. I haven't dated any guys I met online (met my BF in

> university) but if I was single I'd probably try it out.

>

> There is a Facebook group for SCDers with a discussion thread going on about

> where people live (

>

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5487154796 & ref=search#!/group.php?gid=2215\

406763 & ref=ts).

> A lot of people on here have also said where they live too. I'm pretty sure

> there's a WAPF singles group as well (

> http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5487154796 & ref=search). Mark's Daily

> Apple (primal diet) has a forum topic for singles too.

> http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

>

> To meet people in real life who are more aware of diets and digestive

> problems: health food stores, farmers markets, local raw milk pickups,

> through friends (amazing how many people you find out have food

> sensitivities when you open up to your friends about it)

>

> Things to do on a first date: comedy club (my first date with my BF, it was

> so fun!), movie, theater, bowling

>

> Kat

> http://scdkat.com

[Guest guest]

Well I'm not single and dating, so I don't really know, but there are far worse

problems in a relationship like addiction, abuse... I think I would much prefer

to date a kind person who is on a diet. I know I get nervous even having to eat

out at a lunch. I like the idea of bowling, hiking, pack a picnic. I try to

suggest meeting friends at a coffee place instead of a restaurant- and I order

tea. I know this is easy to say from outside the dating pool, but so much

socializing is over food and we have to be creative, and focus on what we can

do.

I know even in a marriage- I try to minimize the diet part and keep life as

" normal " as possible. What personal traits can we bring to the table? We are so

much more than this

PJ

> >

> > Just wanted to say that SCDers are not alone. There's other diets that are

> > quite similar and if you met someone following that diet in real life, they

> > probably wouldn't even have to question what you are going through.

> >

> > Gut and Psychology Syndrome (GAPS) diet, Weston A Price Foundation (WAPF),

> > Body Ecology Diet (BED), Primal diet, Paleo diet, Low carb diet

> >

> > It might not be that easy to meet someone in your hometown, but it's worth

> > at least joining some online groups for these diets and asking around. I

> > have been meeting people online for a long time and have never really had a

> > bad experience. I haven't dated any guys I met online (met my BF in

> > university) but if I was single I'd probably try it out.

> >

> > There is a Facebook group for SCDers with a discussion thread going on about

> > where people live (

> >

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5487154796 & ref=search#!/group.php?gid=2215\

406763 & ref=ts).

> > A lot of people on here have also said where they live too. I'm pretty sure

> > there's a WAPF singles group as well (

> > http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=5487154796 & ref=search). Mark's Daily

> > Apple (primal diet) has a forum topic for singles too.

> > http://www.marksdailyapple.com/

> >

> > To meet people in real life who are more aware of diets and digestive

> > problems: health food stores, farmers markets, local raw milk pickups,

> > through friends (amazing how many people you find out have food

> > sensitivities when you open up to your friends about it)

> >

> > Things to do on a first date: comedy club (my first date with my BF, it was

> > so fun!), movie, theater, bowling

> >

> > Kat

> > http://scdkat.com

>

[Guest guest]

> Well I'm not single and dating, so I don't really know, but there are > far worse problems in a relationship like addiction, abuse... I think I > would much prefer to date a kind person who is on a diet. I know I get > nervous even having to eat out at a lunch. I like the idea of bowling, > hiking, pack a picnic. I try to suggest meeting friends at a coffee > place instead of a restaurant- and I order tea. I know this is easy to > say from outside the dating pool, but so much socializing is over food > and we have to be creative, and focus on what we can do.> I know even in a marriage- I try to minimize the diet part and keep life > as "normal" as possible. What personal traits can we bring to the > table? We are so much more than this >> PJ>This is not a personal criticism of anybody. But I'm wondering why so many people here seem so squeamish about telling others -- including a person one might date -- that she/he must be on a particular diet for health reasons, or that you must avoid certain foods, etc.  I personally don't see the big deal. And speical diets are so common these days; therefore, it's much easier than it used to be.Even so, I've never in 30+ years had anyone disparage me or react negatively to hearing that information (ok, when I was in college my friends sometimes kidded me about what I ate/drank -- or didn't eat or drink -- but it wasn't nasty joking at all). And certainly in the year-and-a-half that I've been on the SCD (and LDN) no one has reacted negatively. In fact, most people are intrigued about why/how I'm feeling so well now, and they ask for details. (That happened again just last week with a new employer, who has a nephew with a very bad case of Crohn's.) Very often -- almost always -- if/when  the subject comes up the person I'm talking to says something like, "I have a friend/cousin/niece/colleague/etc. who has Crohn's/colitis/digestive problems. Will you write down the name of the diet for me? Is there a website I can look at or tell them about?" Certainly nobody I'm with cares what I eat or don't eat when I'm at a restaurant or party with friends. I've found them to be extremely accommodating. It's great too, of course that my husband is on the diet with me -- for weight-loss purposes. He doesn't need to be but it has helped him lose weight he needed to lose, and it's a healthy way to eat. Somebody help me out here. Why does anybody here care what others may or may not think about what you're eating? I honestly don't get it, and I've had digestive problems since I was an adolescent.n ______________________________A funny, touching gift book for cat lovers. Signed copies, free shipping (U.S., reduced elsewhere): Confessions of  a Cataholic: My Life With the 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til www.wordpowerpublishing.com  

[Guest guest]

Because some of us have been ridiculed, or someone has rolled their eyes at me

about it, like its all in my head.

Take care,

June

>

> This is not a personal criticism of anybody. But I'm wondering why so many

> people here seem so squeamish about telling others -- including a person

> one might date -- that she/he must be on a particular diet for health

> reasons, or that you must avoid certain foods, etc. I personally don't

> see the big deal. And speical diets are so common these days; therefore,

> it's much easier than it used to be.

>

> Even so, I've never in 30+ years had anyone disparage me or react

> negatively to hearing that information (ok, when I was in college my

> friends sometimes kidded me about what I ate/drank -- or didn't eat or

> drink -- but it wasn't nasty joking at all). And certainly in the

> year-and-a-half that I've been on the SCD (and LDN) no one has reacted

> negatively. In fact, most people are intrigued about why/how I'm feeling

> so well now, and they ask for details. (That happened again just last week

> with a new employer, who has a nephew with a very bad case of Crohn's.)

>

> Very often -- almost always -- if/when the subject comes up the person

> I'm talking to says something like, " I have a

> friend/cousin/niece/colleague/etc. who has Crohn's/colitis/digestive

> problems. Will you write down the name of the diet for me? Is there a

> website I can look at or tell them about? " Certainly nobody I'm with cares

> what I eat or don't eat when I'm at a restaurant or party with friends.

> I've found them to be extremely accommodating. It's great too, of course

> that my husband is on the diet with me -- for weight-loss purposes. He

> doesn't need to be but it has helped him lose weight he needed to lose,

> and it's a healthy way to eat.

>

> Somebody help me out here. Why does anybody here care what others may or

> may not think about what you're eating? I honestly don't get it, and I've

> had digestive problems since I was an adolescent.

>

> n

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ______________________________

>

> A funny, touching gift book for cat lovers. Signed copies, free shipping

> (U.S., reduced elsewhere): Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the

> 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til

> www.wordpowerpublishing.com

>

[Guest guest]

That is their problem. My mom does this to me. She talks about crazy people

obsessing over diet. She gave me one of her diet books on

IBS that was similar to SCD and said diet has nothing to do with this. She has

terrible IBS and has suffered for years. I would get her on SCD if she would

even consider it, but she won't. Some people may criticize you for something

they may benefit from themselves.

So- it's our body, our health. I do find it socially awkward, but in the end, I

have found most people supportive of me. I still try to emphasis the normal in

my life. My son is dating a girl who has diabetes. I think it is his experience

with me on SCD that has helped him see the great qualities in her regardless of

her diet. It gives me hope that there are some good supportive folks out there

for single people.

PJ

>

> Because some of us have been ridiculed, or someone has rolled their eyes at me

about it, like its all in my head.

>

> Take care,

> June

>

> >

> > This is not a personal criticism of anybody. But I'm wondering why so many

> > people here seem so squeamish about telling others -- including a person

> > one might date -- that she/he must be on a particular diet for health

> > reasons, or that you must avoid certain foods, etc. I personally don't

> > see the big deal. And speical diets are so common these days; therefore,

> > it's much easier than it used to be.

> >

> > Even so, I've never in 30+ years had anyone disparage me or react

> > negatively to hearing that information (ok, when I was in college my

> > friends sometimes kidded me about what I ate/drank -- or didn't eat or

> > drink -- but it wasn't nasty joking at all). And certainly in the

> > year-and-a-half that I've been on the SCD (and LDN) no one has reacted

> > negatively. In fact, most people are intrigued about why/how I'm feeling

> > so well now, and they ask for details. (That happened again just last week

> > with a new employer, who has a nephew with a very bad case of Crohn's.)

> >

> > Very often -- almost always -- if/when the subject comes up the person

> > I'm talking to says something like, " I have a

> > friend/cousin/niece/colleague/etc. who has Crohn's/colitis/digestive

> > problems. Will you write down the name of the diet for me? Is there a

> > website I can look at or tell them about? " Certainly nobody I'm with cares

> > what I eat or don't eat when I'm at a restaurant or party with friends.

> > I've found them to be extremely accommodating. It's great too, of course

> > that my husband is on the diet with me -- for weight-loss purposes. He

> > doesn't need to be but it has helped him lose weight he needed to lose,

> > and it's a healthy way to eat.

> >

> > Somebody help me out here. Why does anybody here care what others may or

> > may not think about what you're eating? I honestly don't get it, and I've

> > had digestive problems since I was an adolescent.

> >

> > n

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ______________________________

> >

> > A funny, touching gift book for cat lovers. Signed copies, free shipping

> > (U.S., reduced elsewhere): Confessions of a Cataholic: My Life With the

> > 10 Cats Who Caused My Addiction by n Van Til

> > www.wordpowerpublishing.com

> >

>

[Guest guest]

You've obviously been very lucky in the way that people react to you having a

digestive disease. That's great! But other people haven't been so lucky. And

digestive diseases are still the ones that get made fun of all the time ( " along

came polly " mortified me a little when I first saw it). So you tell someone you

have UC or CD and the first thought they have it something like " so you're

perpetually flatulent? " I can't speak for others but I'm still completely self

conscious from various problems & drugs that came with this disease. And it's

true, our culture (well...all cultures really) are very food centered. When

you're just getting to know someone you don't really want to say something that

would scare someone away. That someone would have to learn a whole new way of

cooking and can't take you out to eat and might have to deal with taking care of

a sick person they barely know are the kind of thoughts that make some of us

nervous about revealing your medical history. Oh! That's another thing...most

people don't get into medical histories on the first date but the diet is

obviously going to bring up questions that you may not be ready to answer. Just

a thought. Meanwhile I bought BTVC and the guy I had just started seeing was

the one who convinced me I could do it (he had been vegan for 5 years and knew

what it was like to give up most of the mainstream foods). Very. Very. Lucky on

my end!

Stacey

>

> This is not a personal criticism of anybody. But I'm wondering why so many

> people here seem so squeamish about telling others -- including a person

> one might date -- that she/he must be on a particular diet for health

> reasons, or that you must avoid certain foods, etc. I personally don't

> see the big deal. And speical diets are so common these days; therefore,

> it's much easier than it used to be.

>

> Even so, I've never in 30+ years had anyone disparage me or react

> negatively to hearing that information (ok, when I was in college my

> friends sometimes kidded me about what I ate/drank -- or didn't eat or

> drink -- but it wasn't nasty joking at all). And certainly in the

> year-and-a-half that I've been on the SCD (and LDN) no one has reacted

> negatively. In fact, most people are intrigued about why/how I'm feeling

> so well now, and they ask for details. (That happened again just last week

> with a new employer, who has a nephew with a very bad case of Crohn's.)

>

> Very often -- almost always -- if/when the subject comes up the person

> I'm talking to says something like, " I have a

> friend/cousin/niece/colleague/etc. who has Crohn's/colitis/digestive

> problems. Will you write down the name of the diet for me? Is there a

> website I can look at or tell them about? " Certainly nobody I'm with cares

> what I eat or don't eat when I'm at a restaurant or party with friends.

> I've found them to be extremely accommodating. It's great too, of course

> that my husband is on the diet with me -- for weight-loss purposes. He

> doesn't need to be but it has helped him lose weight he needed to lose,

> and it's a healthy way to eat.

>

> Somebody help me out here. Why does anybody here care what others may or

> may not think about what you're eating? I honestly don't get it, and I've

> had digestive problems since I was an adolescent.

>

> n

[Guest guest]

This is a great topic and , you put it more realistically! In a perfect

world...it would not matter to a potential date, but we know this is not a

perfect world!

I grapple with the same issues that make it awkward and scary to go out...with a

date or a friend. I can not ever commit b/c that day I may be needing to be in

the bathroom all day, and I can only make plans one day at a time. I hate making

plans and having to drop out because I am having a bad day!

Not to mention one time I went to Blues Fest and was not allowed to bring my

food in, and that was before my diet restrictions got stricter recently. You can

only buy from the vendors! There is NOTHING I can eat at a festival or fair b/c

of the many diet restrictions I have namely wheat/soy/gluten/fructose/dairy and

coffee free along with being on low residue.

there are many embarrassing aspects of this disease and can cause a lot of

anxiety getting out there in the social world.

I am on home oxygen therapy and sometimes need to carry a portable respirator,

besides the Gastric issues. Talk about feeling confident going on a first

date...this is very difficult and I understand the original poster completely!

> >

> > This is not a personal criticism of anybody. But I'm wondering why so many

> > people here seem so squeamish about telling others -- including a person

> > one might date -- that she/he must be on a particular diet for health

> > reasons, or that you must avoid certain foods, etc. I personally don't

> > see the big deal. And speical diets are so common these days; therefore,

> > it's much easier than it used to be.

> >

> > Even so, I've never in 30+ years had anyone disparage me or react

> > negatively to hearing that information (ok, when I was in college my

> > friends sometimes kidded me about what I ate/drank -- or didn't eat or

> > drink -- but it wasn't nasty joking at all). And certainly in the

> > year-and-a-half that I've been on the SCD (and LDN) no one has reacted

> > negatively. In fact, most people are intrigued about why/how I'm feeling

> > so well now, and they ask for details. (That happened again just last week

> > with a new employer, who has a nephew with a very bad case of Crohn's.)

> >

> > Very often -- almost always -- if/when the subject comes up the person

> > I'm talking to says something like, " I have a

> > friend/cousin/niece/colleague/etc. who has Crohn's/colitis/digestive

> > problems. Will you write down the name of the diet for me? Is there a

> > website I can look at or tell them about? " Certainly nobody I'm with cares

> > what I eat or don't eat when I'm at a restaurant or party with friends.

> > I've found them to be extremely accommodating. It's great too, of course

> > that my husband is on the diet with me -- for weight-loss purposes. He

> > doesn't need to be but it has helped him lose weight he needed to lose,

> > and it's a healthy way to eat.

> >

> > Somebody help me out here. Why does anybody here care what others may or

> > may not think about what you're eating? I honestly don't get it, and I've

> > had digestive problems since I was an adolescent.

> >

> > n

>

[Guest guest]

I don't make a big deal of it just saying that I have to eat low carb. Often I

have to explain that I don't do grains but have found that I can eat almost

anywhere by sticking w/ salads and steamed veggies.

I can get broiled meat and sometimes a sauce can be put over steamed veggies. I

DO have to ask a number of questions and that used to irritate my ex-husband...

but, then, most EVERYTHING irritated my ex-husband! In fact, it taught me that

a guy's attitude towards my dietary needs is a great test of how flexible and

down to earth he is. My bias is that most singles don't have a CLUE what Love

is since, on the whole, folks believe that someone perfect will drop straight

from heaven to make them happy... but that's another horse that I'm known to

ride!!

Blessings,

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical, Inhalant,

and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems well-controlled

past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti-yeast diet,

SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD! Magnesium/Vits

A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids

recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

fungally-caused.

> >

> > This may seem a little random so I will explain, I am a young guy and have

> >found the SCDiet an absolute life saver and am absolutely disciplined to

> >strictly staying on the diet.

> >

> > Even though its just a diet/food it really is more of a lifestyle then

anything

> >I feel. I have a good job keep fit and cant really complain about much except

> >socially I find this diet can be really restrictive and I guess I feel like

it

> >would be hard for someone who hadn't struggled with digestive issues and or

eat

> >to a strict regime like the SCDiet to really understand.

> >

> > For this reason I really want to meet someone in a similar situation,

> >dieatary/lifestyle etc. Ideally an Aussie/Syd SCDieter.

> >

> > If there is anyone who feels the same or any ideas on how other people

approach

> >this aspect of there life on the SCDiet I would be interested to hear from

you.

> >Thanks for reading.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

At 03:50 PM 8/10/2010, you wrote:

Because some of us have been

ridiculed, or someone has rolled their eyes at me about it, like its all

in my head.

I've been there.

My first Christmas on SCD. I was told, by family, when I tried to send

food back because it wasn't prepared properly, to " Stop making a

fuss and just eat your dinner! "

Another family member as been there: she was told by her in-laws that she

doing " that diet thing " to get attention.

You know it's not all in your head.

I suggest getting a Medic Alert bracelet with " food allergies "

on it. You can regularly update with them what foods you can and can't

have. I've found that fewer people give me a hassle if, instead of

saying anything, I just point to the bracelet.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Greg-

I was single for a long time ( kissed a lot of frogs), got married for a long time and am single again, though I have a wonderful man in my life. A few years ago at the tender age of 47, I finally found my soulmate, my true best friend.

This man is a great cook and I consider myself to be a very good cook and we have a lot of fun grilling, cooking and being in the kitchen together trying to make the most tasty SCD meals. He has no digestive problems at all and is a skinny beanpole (hate him!). At times he'll add a starch or grain for himself and I won't. He is very supportive of SCD and since he is an outdoorsman and hunts and fishes--he has grown up making everything from scratch and understands the basics of the diet. Unfortunately he is allergic to honey which makes it hard to make sweet things we both can eat.

I guess my point is you don't need to find someone on the SCD, you need to find someone compatible with you--someone who would be inclined to follow a healthy diet from scratch. That's an old-fashioned concept. Someone in the health field or alternative health field would be amenable to different diet choices or would be compassionate and understanding about your need for a special diet. And it helps if that someone is your friend first. Friendship implies courtesy and respect ( for your lifestyle) as well as trust.

I think you have gotten some wonderful suggestions for non-food centered dates from other members. It always helps to meet people in things you like to do, eg a bicycle club or running club. A date could be a bike ride with an SCD picnic that you have made for your date( that's romantic). (Women like men who cook for them). No need to spill your guts on the first date and discuss your digestion. You don't have to go out to eat. Use your imagination. And when these dates turn into a friendship that could become more, then you explain in a matter of fact way what you need to eat to be a functioning member of the planet without any apologies or embarrassment. And you can go out to eat at times, but you will need to plan ahead what you can eat safely.

Most genuine people, people that you want to be friends with or women that you want to share your life with, need to accept you as you are not who they think you should be and that includes the food you should eat. You're going to find some people or women who won't understand or accept it, or who may be uncomfortable with your diet and you will have to accept that these people or women are not for you. The diet is not that restrictive--there is so much food you can eat.

Best of luck.

Terry

[Guest guest]

Greg- I was single for a long time ( kissed a lot of frogs), got married for a long time and am single again, though I have a wonderful man in my life. A few years ago at the tender age of 47, I finally found my soulmate, my true best friend. This man is a great cook and I consider myself to be a very good cook and we have a lot of fun grilling, cooking and being in the kitchen together trying to make the most tasty SCD meals. He has no digestive problems at all and is a skinny beanpole (hate him!). At times he'll add a starch or grain for himself and I won't. He is very supportive of SCD and since he is an outdoorsman and hunts and fishes--he has grown up making everything from scratch and understands the basics of the diet. Unfortunately he is allergic to honey which makes it hard to make sweet things we both can eat.Lucky you, Terry. That sounds great.Mara

[Guest guest]

It's been so long (42 years) since I've been single I probably

shouldn't comment here. But I will! I have a friend who became

single again and she has very specialized dietary requirements, too,

though not as strict as ours. What she did to avoid the lunch or

dinner as the first few dates, was to suggest things like a walk on

the beach, an exhibit of somekind, that sort of thing. There would

usually end up being a cup of tea/coffee somewhere as well, but not a

meal. It worked well for her. Another idea for where to find

someone not welded to a SAD diet would be a seriously organic

gardening type. I have another friend whose DH is a world-class

organic gardener, and they come very close to our " make it yourself "

philosophy.

Good luck, I know not everyone you meet will be instantly and totally

sympathetic, but there are plenty who will, and I am sure you will

find some with a bit of trial and error.

[Guest guest]

I've lead a very sheltered life the last few years, so only have to deal with my

mom and dad when it comes to food choices. My mom, already a healthy eater, has

given up most of her remaining SAD foods and eats an awful lot like I do (except

she has a lot more fruit & veggies). My dad refuses to try SCD, but still

supports me (although he occasionally still asks dumb questions, like can you

eat tortillas?, or does something rude like putting a bag of potato chips under

my nose). He even had a funny dream the other night that I gave up SCD and

ordered in Pizza Hut. He was mortified and refused to let me eat it, and flung

it into the backyard for the birds. I think his subconscious knows that he

should be on SCD too (he has Crohn's).

Now if I had to deal with other family, I'd be is some serious trouble. My

grandma would be very offended if I didn't eat her food (my mother's eating

habits irk her). She thinks my dad must be starving, and told him he should go

out to a restaurant by himself for a real meal. But all my family is very far

away, so I haven't yet had to deal with them and SCD.

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

>

> > Somebody help me out here. Why does anybody here care what others

> > may or may not think about what you're eating? I honestly don't get

> > it, and I've had digestive problems since I was an adolescent.

>

>

> My mom always says that she can't wait until I can eat normal things,

> and I always say that I don't WANT to eat 'normal' things! Sure, it'd

> be nice to not have to be so paranoid about sneaky illegals, and to be

> able to add in a couple of natural healthy foods (sweet potatoes?),

> but other than that, I LIKE eating this way. It's my choice, and I'm

> not ashamed of it.

>

> I can't blame others for feeling differently though, because we all

> have different priorities. My priorities are being the healthiest I

> can be, being in touch with nature, and usually I even LIKE being

> different. Other people's priorities might be being in touch with

> people, which is really hard on a diet like this. I don't think anyone

> (with a few exceptions) would actually judge any of us for being on a

> special diet, and might even be interested in it, but that doesn't

> change the fact that having this diet as a major part of our lives can

> make it hard to relate to and connect with most people. I don't think

> it's necessarily a matter of being ashamed of the diet, but rather

> having a hard time connecting to people who can't even relate to a

> major part of our lives.

>

> Cheers!

> Alyssa 16 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> Prednisone 10 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

>

[Guest guest]

At 07:59 PM 8/10/2010, you wrote:

Lol I can picture that =)

Marilyn, you are so lucky to have such a great husband, and you totally

deserve it!

I'm rather fond of him, I must admit! Tonight, we had left-over burger

florentine, and he said, " Wait, we're almost out of Parm... good

thing I bought a block yesterday. We need to grate it before

dinner.... "

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle

[Guest guest]

Another family member as been there: she was told by her in-laws that she doing "that diet thing" to get attention....what? It would certainly be a ridiculous amount of planning and hard work just to get attention. Cheers!Alyssa 16 yo UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)Prednisone 10 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

[Guest guest]

I think by only looking for someone with similar dietary restrictions you miss

out on a lot of people. The main thing is that they be supportive and

understanding. My girlfriend is vegetarian and I do non-dairy SCD, so there is

not a lot of overlap. We just do our own cooking and that works out fine.

>

> It's been so long (42 years) since I've been single I probably

> shouldn't comment here. But I will! I have a friend who became

> single again and she has very specialized dietary requirements, too,

> though not as strict as ours. What she did to avoid the lunch or

> dinner as the first few dates, was to suggest things like a walk on

> the beach, an exhibit of somekind, that sort of thing. There would

> usually end up being a cup of tea/coffee somewhere as well, but not a

> meal. It worked well for her. Another idea for where to find

> someone not welded to a SAD diet would be a seriously organic

> gardening type. I have another friend whose DH is a world-class

> organic gardener, and they come very close to our " make it yourself "

> philosophy.

>

> Good luck, I know not everyone you meet will be instantly and totally

> sympathetic, but there are plenty who will, and I am sure you will

> find some with a bit of trial and error.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

<<I'm wondering why so many people here seem so squeamish about telling others

-- including a person one might date -- that she/he must be on a particular diet

for health reasons, or that you must avoid certain foods, etc. I personally

don't see the big deal. And speical diets are so common these days; therefore,

it's much easier than it used to be.>>

Well, n, you've been really blessed to not have

been ridiculed. My experience it that who are supposed to love us most who can

be most critical. And those we're just meeting with an idea to date may drop us

over this sort of thing believing us to be too high-maintenance. In truth, they

may have their OWN food or drink addictions that they just don't want to deal

with. I reiterate: In the longrun we are better off without such superficial

and ungraceful people.

Artful Carol

> >I know even in a marriage- I try to minimize the

> >diet part and keep life as " normal " as possible.

> >What personal traits can we bring to the table?

> >We are so much more than this

>

> Well, I count myself fortunate to have a very supportive husband.

>

> In fact, we were at (yet another) retirement

> dinner Friday night. Interestingly, the waiter

> (again) thanked me for bringing my own food,

> because when they are serving a large group on a

> set meal, it is very difficult to make sure that

> a special meal is done properly.

>

> This time, I added something to my arsenal -- a

> small pizza stone, which I heated in the oven

> when I heated my food, and which I placed in the

> insulated case from my Corningware portables.

> (The case includes a hot pack, but it must be

> heated in a microwave, and I don't have a working

> microwave.). I used an 8 " Pyrex pie dish and

> arranged peeled (cooked) jumbo shrimp around the

> edge. I used another Pyrex dish to put brie

> spinach in placed in the center. A second Pyrex

> dish I put oyster and artichoke bisque in. And a

> smaller one had cherry-pecan compote, with

> vanilla-yogurt on top. I also had a small salad and my own dressing.

>

> The pizza stone went in my case. Then the heated

> pie pan and (covered) bowl. I covered it with a

> pie carrying cover, and placed the hot (covered)

> bowl of soup on top and sealed the case. I had a

> small case with blue ice for the cold stuff.

>

> It was a little awkward, carrying two cases and my cane, but do-able.

>

> It worked quite well. I had my cases at my side,

> and when the salad was served, I slipped out my

> salad and ate it. When the soup was served,

> ditto. Then the main course. My soup and main

> course, thanks to the pizza stone, hadn't cooled

> much at all. And then the desert.

>

> <g> Harry, as usual, took some of my mustard,

> since he prefers that to yellow commercial

> mustard, and, interestingly enough, spent a fair

> amount of time telling his co-workers how good

> homemade mustard was, and how easy it was to make.

>

> A couple of people thought my food looked better than what they had!

>

> Oh, and interestingly enough on the subject of

> SCD food and such. Just ask the gentleman who put

> us up for a month after Hurricane Katrina if he'd

> be willing to have us back again. I took over his

> kitchen and there was a hot SCD meal ready every

> evening. As a bachelor, he didn't mind at all!

>

> People start out pitying us for our " limited "

> diet, and end up envying our excellent food and good health!

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> Babette the Foundling Beagle

>

[Guest guest]

<<My priorities are being the healthiest I can be, being in touch with nature,

and usually I even LIKE being different. Other people's priorities might be

being in touch with people, which is really hard on a diet like this. I don't

think anyone (with a few exceptions) would actually judge any of us for being on

a special diet, and might even be interested in it, but that doesn't change the

fact that having this diet as a major part of our lives can make it hard to

relate to and connect with most people. I don't think it's necessarily a matter

of being ashamed of the diet, but rather

having a hard time connecting to people who can't even relate to a

major part of our lives.>>

Alysa, you are blessed to have this insight at such

a young age. It was years before I realized that the kids in high school who

were the most popular were drinking a lot. 45 yrs. later, they -- even the

beauty queens -- aren't looking so good. Or they're DEAD! A rather healthy

lifestyle all these years has given me a real leg up on them, if I were

competing... which I'm not!

If you'll look at it from a deeper spiritual level, though, you'll see

that EVERYBODY has their issues. When we're 16 we may not recognize them but

STILL we LIVE out of them! So, if you accept this diet as a Gift and look at

others from a deeper level we'll see that, actually, it can make it EASIER to

relate to and connect with most people. As Jesus taught we " only " have to

accept a new way of seeing. AKA spiritual healing.

Blessings,

Artful Carol

Former me: From babyhood - CFS, Depression, Candida, Severe Chemical, Inhalant,

and Food Allergies. Current me: Global Carb and Fungal Problems well-controlled

past 30 yr. by extremely low-carb, no dairy, no grains allergy/anti-yeast diet,

SCD 01/05. After 35 yrs. no need for allergy shots since SCD! Magnesium/Vits

A, B, D, E/Evening Primrose, Fish, Olive, and Other Oils, Lecithin. 2 grown kids

recovered from serious developmental problems which I believe were

fungally-caused.

>

> > Somebody help me out here. Why does anybody here care what others

> > may or may not think about what you're eating? I honestly don't get

> > it, and I've had digestive problems since I was an adolescent.

>

>

> My mom always says that she can't wait until I can eat normal things,

> and I always say that I don't WANT to eat 'normal' things! Sure, it'd

> be nice to not have to be so paranoid about sneaky illegals, and to be

> able to add in a couple of natural healthy foods (sweet potatoes?),

> but other than that, I LIKE eating this way. It's my choice, and I'm

> not ashamed of it.

>

> I can't blame others for feeling differently though, because we all

> have different priorities. My priorities are being the healthiest I

> can be, being in touch with nature, and usually I even LIKE being

> different. Other people's priorities might be being in touch with

> people, which is really hard on a diet like this. I don't think anyone

> (with a few exceptions) would actually judge any of us for being on a

> special diet, and might even be interested in it, but that doesn't

> change the fact that having this diet as a major part of our lives can

> make it hard to relate to and connect with most people. I don't think

> it's necessarily a matter of being ashamed of the diet, but rather

> having a hard time connecting to people who can't even relate to a

> major part of our lives.

>

> Cheers!

> Alyssa 16 yo

> UC April 2008, dx Sept 2008

> SCD June 2009 (restarted)

> Prednisone 10 mg 1x per day (trying to wean!!!!)

>

[Guest guest]

I agree. I think a lot of these people feel there's an implied criticism

of their own sorry ways.

Another family member as been there: she was told by her

in-laws > that she doing " that diet thing " to get

attention.

....what? It would certainly be a ridiculous amount of planning and hard work just to get attention.

Cheers!

Alyssa 16 yo

[Guest guest]

At 08:02 AM 8/11/2010, you wrote:

Another family member as been

there: she was told by her in-laws that she doing " that diet

thing " to get attention.

....what? It would certainly be a ridiculous amount of planning and hard

work just to get attention.

Well, no one ever said the kind of miserable criticism some of us have

dealt with was REASONABLE.

She'd decided not to start her son on junk food -- not necessarily pure

SCD, but Not Junk, in the hopes he wouldn't acquire a taste for it. At

one " family " get-together, she came out of the necessary to

find her MIL stuffing Cool Whip in her son's mouth. He was twisting and

trying to get away from it, and MIL kept saying, " You'll love

this! " Except, he didn't!

She was... not amused, shall we say.

As others have commented, that kind of behavior is both emotional and

physical abuse.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

Babette the Foundling Beagle