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What are your opinions/experiences with caffeine?

I have been drinking a lot of coffee, decaffinated

when I can, but with artificial sweetner (Equal

usually). Also, I know there are different opinions

about carbonated sodas. My surgeon never said not

to drink them. I have from the beginning and have

not had any problems, although I don't drink NEAR

as many as I use to pre-op. I think the coffee helps

me not be as hungry. How important is it to stay

away from caffeine?

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In a message dated 08/21/2003 6:52:58 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

watnext@... writes:

> Caffeine is supposed to stimulate hunger. But, I'm not giving up my

> 2.5 cups in the morning! After all, it comes from a coffee bean.

> Beans??? Even if it's not protein, it's still a vegetable! <BG>

>

>

I am right there with ya. Holding my coffee cup. LOL. Kim O

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Caffeine is supposed to stimulate hunger. But, I'm not giving up my

2.5 cups in the morning! After all, it comes from a coffee bean.

Beans??? Even if it's not protein, it's still a vegetable! <BG>

in NJ (working on cup #1)

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> I think the coffee helps

> me not be as hungry. How important is it to stay

> away from caffeine?

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Is that for all wls or just the bypass surgeries? I had the vbg and did

not know that. Did I miss something?

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:49:36 -0700 " Barbara Jean "

writes:

> One of the problems with caffeine for us is that it can interfere

> with

> malabsorption of iron. I just make sure I don't drink any coffee an

> hour

> before or an hour after I take my iron. This is not much of a

> problem for

> me, since I usually take my iron in the middle of the night.

>

> Barbara Jean

>

>

> Re: Caffeine

>

>

> > For some people, caffeine can be an appetite stimulant. My own

> personal

> > opinion is that if I am drinking my tea (caffeine of choice) I am

> not

> > putting any food in my mouth and how can that possibly be a bad

> thing. I

> > didn't do caffeine for a while and it was even longer that I

> didn't do

> > diet cokes. Honestly, I have not seen an increase in appetite

> since

> > starting back on it. There is also some studies being done about

> the

> > advantages of antioxidants in tea (back to the veggie thing). I

> thought

> > that was rather interesting.

> > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > SRVG 7/16/01

> > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> >

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

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> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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As far a I know this is true for everyone, even normal people. The first

surgery I considered was a VBG, and at the time I was told not to do

caffeine at all. Although I do leave some time between the caffeine and

iron, I am certainly not willing to totally give up caffeine.

After all, I don't drink, smoke, do drugs, drive fast cars, or pick up men.

I think I deserve a little vice in my life.

Barbara Jean

Re: Caffeine

> >

> >

> > > For some people, caffeine can be an appetite stimulant. My own

> > personal

> > > opinion is that if I am drinking my tea (caffeine of choice) I am

> > not

> > > putting any food in my mouth and how can that possibly be a bad

> > thing. I

> > > didn't do caffeine for a while and it was even longer that I

> > didn't do

> > > diet cokes. Honestly, I have not seen an increase in appetite

> > since

> > > starting back on it. There is also some studies being done about

> > the

> > > advantages of antioxidants in tea (back to the veggie thing). I

> > thought

> > > that was rather interesting.

> > > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

> > > SRVG 7/16/01

> > > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

> > >

> >

> >

> > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

> >

> > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I disagree with Ray on this issue. As WLS patients, we have a more difficult

time absorbing calcium than " normies. " That makes us more susceptible to

osteoporosis. Caffeine interacts negatively in some way (I honestly don't

remember

now exactly what the science is on it) with the calcium, increasing our risk

for osteoporosis. For this reason, I would avoid caffeine in ANY form, most of

the time. Don't see anything wrong with an occasion treat, though.

Also, for certain people, those who are genetically at higher risk for

developing kidney stones, drinking decaffeinated isn't all that good either. The

oxylates in brown liquids, whether they contain caffeine or not (and in even

some

really " good " stuff like spinach) can contribute to the formation of kidney

stones, in those predisposed to forming them. Also the reason to get your

calcium as citrate and not carbonate.

Carol A

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In a message dated 8/22/2003 3:42:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

ray@... writes:

> WLS and caffeine consumption have no relationship. If you could tolerate

> caffeine before surgery, then you should be able to after surgery. I try to

> avoid it because it keeps me awake.

>

> Ray Hooks

> For WLS nutrition info, visit

> http://www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com

>

>

>

> nkh0409 wrote:

>

> >What are your opinions/experiences with caffeine?

> >I have been drinking a lot of coffee, decaffinated

> >when I can, but with artificial sweetner (Equal

> >usually). Also, I know there are different opinions

> >about carbonated sodas. My surgeon never said not

> >to drink them. I have from the beginning and have

> >not had any problems, although I don't drink NEAR

> >as many as I use to pre-op. I think the coffee helps

> >me not be as hungry. How important is it to stay

> >away from caffeine?

>

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One of the problems with caffeine for us is that it can interfere

>with

>malabsorption of iron. I just make sure I don't drink any coffee an

>hour

>before or an hour after I take my iron.

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Actually it interferes with the ABsorption of iron (causing greater

MALabsorption) -- which is probably what you meant anyway. Just didn't want

someone to

read this and go " HUH? Wha'd she say? " (grin)

I don't have caffeine EVERY day. But when I do have it, I make sure it's no

closet than TWO hours on either side of my iron. Mainly bcuz any time I've

asked a pharmacist how far apart to take other stuff known to interact

negatively,

they've always answered 2 hours.

Carol A

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> I disagree with Ray on this issue. As WLS patients, we have a more difficult

> time absorbing calcium than " normies. " That makes us more susceptible to

> osteoporosis. Caffeine interacts negatively in some way (I honestly don't

remember

> now exactly what the science is on it) with the calcium, increasing our risk

> for osteoporosis. For this reason, I would avoid caffeine in ANY form, most of

> the time. Don't see anything wrong with an occasion treat, though.

My understanding, and I could be wrong on this, is that caffeine

prevents the absorbtion of Calcium.

I still do caffeine, but I be sure not to take my calcium at the same

time as I take my caffeine!!! I do love those Diet Mt. Dews in the

morning!!!!

kathy

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But I have promises to keep,

And miles to go before I sleep,

And miles to go before I sleep.

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