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It sounds like according to BFL day 1 would be within three days of

taking the photos so yea, count it as day 1. It's their rules, not

yours. Your before photo just might not look as heavy as it would

have otherwise. Let that motivate you to make sure that at week 12

there is an easily noticeable difference.

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This is part of her e-mail:

" We had

quite a do with him last night. This is the third time that I

have had his

English teacher on the line about him. She would really

like him to

stop being in the group that is distracting the class, She

says he is

not the ring leader but joins in when they start and refuses

to stop when

she asks him to. She is trying to do their course work with

them and

basically if he listens and writes down what she says and goes

home and

does it he will get good marks for his course work. they really

do spoon

feed these kids now and he needs to take advantage of that. he

will be full

of verbal about what a " " teacher she

is but

basically he

needs to play with his friends outside the class room and

only speak

to his teacher in the class. he was kept back to do

dentention

woth them yesterday and if he does not behave on Wednesday

this group

will be withdrawn from the class and will have to get on with

their course

work on thier own.

******************Sylvia,

me immediate reaction is he needs to be taken out of this group. It is very

obvious he is in a cycle of bad behavior with this bunch. The odds of changing without

group change probably won’t happen. The mom should make a list of

alternatives with the teacher and act on it right off. That’s my 2 cents

for what it’s worth!............Gail

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> * dilema

>

> This is part of her e-mail:

>

> " We had quite a do with him last night. This is the third time that I

> have had his English teacher on the line about him. She would really

> like him to stop being in the group that is distracting the class, She

> says he is not the ring leader but joins in when they start and refuses

> to stop when she asks him to. She is trying to do their course work with

> them and basically if he listens and writes down what she says and goes

> home and does it he will get good marks for his course work. they really

> do spoon feed these kids now and he needs to take advantage of that. he

> will be full of verbal about what a " " teacher she is but

> basically he needs to play with his friends outside the class room and

> only speak to his teacher in the class. he was kept back to do

> dentention woth them yesterday and if he does not behave on Wednesday

> this group will be withdrawn from the class and will have to get on with

> their course work on thier own.

>

> ******************Sylvia, me immediate reaction is he needs to be

> taken out of this group. It is very obvious he is in a cycle of bad

> behavior with this bunch. The odds of changing without group change

> probably won’t happen. The mom should make a list of alternatives with

> the teacher and act on it right off. That’s my 2 cents for what it’s

> worth!............Gail

>

>

>

> *

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could just be tea... how does it smelll.... if he doesn't have another culture

put away and his booch smells funkier than normal... just use it in shampoo or

in the wash... and send him a freshy...

xo

beaN

jmb20346 <buhlj007@...> wrote:

Hi,

I just talked to a friend of mine in Florida and he's concerned about

his culture. This is his second brew since he acquired the culture and

he told me that he had black spots on the culture that was powdery,

like fine ground coffee and it would stick to the straw when he

submerged it. It doesn't sound good to me but I need your opinion. He

has also been using 10 tea bags instead of 5 for a 1 gallon jug, which

he thought he read somewhere or just misunderstood.

I have never heard of black spots and I've read just about all the

websites pertaining to Kombucha and what they are supposed to look

like. His tea is into it's 8th day of fermentation and the cultures

are only about 1/16 to 1/8 inch thick, with the black spots. Could

this be some kind of mold, I'm puzzled.

Any help you can give me would be much appreciated so I can pass it on

before he drinks any of it.

Thanks,

Judy

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Now be really honest when answering this problem

Here's a dilemma for you...what would you do?This test only has one question, but it's a very important one.Please don't answer it without giving it some serious thought. By giving an honest answer you will discover where you stand morally.The test features an unlikely, completely fictional situation, in which you will have to make a decision.Remember that your answer needs to be honest, yet spontaneous.Thoughtfulness is important for this evaluation to be meaningful!Ready?You're in Ontario..In Ottawa, to be exact... There is chaos around you, caused by a hurricane and severe and unusual floods. This is a flood of major proportions. You are a photojournalist working for a major newspaper caught in the middle of this great disaster. The situation is nearly hopeless. You're trying to shoot career-making photos. There are houses and people swirling around you, some disappearing under the water.Nature is showing

all its' destructive fury. You see a man in the Ottawa River! He is fighting for his life, trying not to be taken away with the water and debris. You move closer. Somehow the man looks familiar. Suddenly, you know who it is... it's .Isn't life ironic?At the same time you notice that the raging waters are about to take him under, forever. You have two options. You can save him or you can take the most dramatic photos of your life. You can save the life of Prime Minister , or you can shoot a Pulitzer Prize-winning photo, documenting the death of one of the world's powerful men.Now, here's the question (please give an honest answer):Would you select color film, or rather, go with the classic simplicity of black and white?

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I don't know when your first day of school is, but based on what you said about

the friendships, the familiarity of the school, and the difference when he

wasn't around that teacher, I would be inclined to look at keeping him in the

same school. Is there anyway you could talk to the new teacher before going

through the whole placement process, just to see if she would be a good fit for

Nic?

Sharon H.

Mom to , (13, DS) and , (10)

South Carolina

Dilemma

OK, now that I got your attention I'll state my dilemma...lol (sorry, sent

the first email without the message).

OK, We didn't have a great first grade because of the teacher Nic had last

year. He was in a part time learning support class. Had all specials, science

and SS with the reg ed class. At the end of the year, we were told he would

have the same teacher this year. We couldn't go thru that again with her so

decided for a more restrictive environment at another district elem school.

Nic had forged friendships with children and staff there. Everyone knows him

and it was " his " school. But we decided on the move so we wouldn't have to fight

for 9 months with her.

ESY went wonderfully! The aide (who was his aide during the reg school year)

said she can't believe he was the same child. Another fact which proves to me

that the teacher had a lot to do with his behaviors.

Well, I had this feeling that she wouldn't be returning for whatever reason

(one being she taught at 3 different schools in 3 years-not a good sign). So

today I go to the school website, look up the 2005-2006 staff and lo and behold!

She's gone. The teacher listed for LS K-2 is some one different.

So, do I call another meeting to have him moved or try out this new class and

see how it goes?

I'm so pissed! Our whole decision to move him was based on the fact that SHE

would be his teacher and now she's gone! UGH! How frustrating!

Di

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I don't know when your first day of school is, but based on what you said about

the friendships, the familiarity of the school, and the difference when he

wasn't around that teacher, I would be inclined to look at keeping him in the

same school. Is there anyway you could talk to the new teacher before going

through the whole placement process, just to see if she would be a good fit for

Nic?

Sharon H.

Mom to , (13, DS) and , (10)

South Carolina

Dilemma

OK, now that I got your attention I'll state my dilemma...lol (sorry, sent

the first email without the message).

OK, We didn't have a great first grade because of the teacher Nic had last

year. He was in a part time learning support class. Had all specials, science

and SS with the reg ed class. At the end of the year, we were told he would

have the same teacher this year. We couldn't go thru that again with her so

decided for a more restrictive environment at another district elem school.

Nic had forged friendships with children and staff there. Everyone knows him

and it was " his " school. But we decided on the move so we wouldn't have to fight

for 9 months with her.

ESY went wonderfully! The aide (who was his aide during the reg school year)

said she can't believe he was the same child. Another fact which proves to me

that the teacher had a lot to do with his behaviors.

Well, I had this feeling that she wouldn't be returning for whatever reason

(one being she taught at 3 different schools in 3 years-not a good sign). So

today I go to the school website, look up the 2005-2006 staff and lo and behold!

She's gone. The teacher listed for LS K-2 is some one different.

So, do I call another meeting to have him moved or try out this new class and

see how it goes?

I'm so pissed! Our whole decision to move him was based on the fact that SHE

would be his teacher and now she's gone! UGH! How frustrating!

Di

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I think I would opt to move him back, unless you've already introduced the

school to Nic and have him thinking about his new school. You're right, Di,

this is a dilemma!

Jackie

--------- Dilemma

>

>

> OK, now that I got your attention I'll state my dilemma...lol (sorry, sent

> the first email without the message).

>

> OK, We didn't have a great first grade because of the teacher Nic had last

> year. He was in a part time learning support class. Had all specials, science

> and SS with the reg ed class. At the end of the year, we were told he would

> have the same teacher this year. We couldn't go thru that again with her so

> decided for a more restrictive environment at another district elem school.

> Nic had forged friendships with children and staff there. Everyone knows him

> and it was " his " school. But we decided on the move so we wouldn't have to

fight

> for 9 months with her.

> ESY went wonderfully! The aide (who was his aide during the reg school year)

> said she can't believe he was the same child. Another fact which proves to me

> that the teacher had a lot to do with his behaviors.

> Well, I had this feeling that she wouldn't be returning for whatever reason

> (one being she taught at 3 different schools in 3 years-not a good sign). So

> today I go to the school website, look up the 2005-2006 staff and lo and

behold!

> She's gone. The teacher listed for LS K-2 is some one different.

> So, do I call another meeting to have him moved or try out this new class and

> see how it goes?

> I'm so pissed! Our whole decision to move him was based on the fact that SHE

> would be his teacher and now she's gone! UGH! How frustrating!

>

> Di

>

>

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I think I would opt to move him back, unless you've already introduced the

school to Nic and have him thinking about his new school. You're right, Di,

this is a dilemma!

Jackie

--------- Dilemma

>

>

> OK, now that I got your attention I'll state my dilemma...lol (sorry, sent

> the first email without the message).

>

> OK, We didn't have a great first grade because of the teacher Nic had last

> year. He was in a part time learning support class. Had all specials, science

> and SS with the reg ed class. At the end of the year, we were told he would

> have the same teacher this year. We couldn't go thru that again with her so

> decided for a more restrictive environment at another district elem school.

> Nic had forged friendships with children and staff there. Everyone knows him

> and it was " his " school. But we decided on the move so we wouldn't have to

fight

> for 9 months with her.

> ESY went wonderfully! The aide (who was his aide during the reg school year)

> said she can't believe he was the same child. Another fact which proves to me

> that the teacher had a lot to do with his behaviors.

> Well, I had this feeling that she wouldn't be returning for whatever reason

> (one being she taught at 3 different schools in 3 years-not a good sign). So

> today I go to the school website, look up the 2005-2006 staff and lo and

behold!

> She's gone. The teacher listed for LS K-2 is some one different.

> So, do I call another meeting to have him moved or try out this new class and

> see how it goes?

> I'm so pissed! Our whole decision to move him was based on the fact that SHE

> would be his teacher and now she's gone! UGH! How frustrating!

>

> Di

>

>

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I would put him back at his school that he is used to. The teacher is gone,

his peers are there.

Maverick just entered HS and it's so nice to see his friends that he has

known since 1st grade greeting him and reaching out to him.

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I would put him back at his school that he is used to. The teacher is gone,

his peers are there.

Maverick just entered HS and it's so nice to see his friends that he has

known since 1st grade greeting him and reaching out to him.

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I think I would try the new setting to see how he goes. The differences the

aide saw may of been from the new setting, Nic just may feel more

comfortable there rather than the problems with the old teacher.

Another line of thought - how do you know that the new teacher at the old

setting, will be happy to have Nic and not cause similar problems to the

previous teacher.

It is a hard decision and hard to know whether you are doing the right

thing - I believe the main thing to be worried about is where will Nic be

the happiest.

We started Trent off in mainstream school, the problems which arose where

far greater than the progress he was making - finally we decided to move him

onto a special school - a decision I don't regret although the educational

component of his day could have been better. The thing was he was happy and

has loads of friends.

In recent weeks, we have been to several 21st birthday parties and the one

thing I have noticed, is the kids whose parents persevered with mainstream

school are the ones who do not have social skills, would not get up and

dance or mix with the other party goers.

Keep smiling

Jan, mother of Trent 21yo w/DS from the LandDownUnder

Dilemma

OK, now that I got your attention I'll state my dilemma...lol (sorry, sent

the first email without the message).

OK, We didn't have a great first grade because of the teacher Nic had last

year. He was in a part time learning support class. Had all specials,

science and SS with the reg ed class. At the end of the year, we were told

he would have the same teacher this year. We couldn't go thru that again

with her so decided for a more restrictive environment at another district

elem school.

Nic had forged friendships with children and staff there. Everyone knows him

and it was " his " school. But we decided on the move so we wouldn't have to

fight for 9 months with her.

ESY went wonderfully! The aide (who was his aide during the reg school year)

said she can't believe he was the same child. Another fact which proves to

me that the teacher had a lot to do with his behaviors.

Well, I had this feeling that she wouldn't be returning for whatever reason

(one being she taught at 3 different schools in 3 years-not a good sign). So

today I go to the school website, look up the 2005-2006 staff and lo and

behold! She's gone. The teacher listed for LS K-2 is some one different.

So, do I call another meeting to have him moved or try out this new class

and see how it goes?

I'm so pissed! Our whole decision to move him was based on the fact that

SHE would be his teacher and now she's gone! UGH! How frustrating!

Di

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I think I would try the new setting to see how he goes. The differences the

aide saw may of been from the new setting, Nic just may feel more

comfortable there rather than the problems with the old teacher.

Another line of thought - how do you know that the new teacher at the old

setting, will be happy to have Nic and not cause similar problems to the

previous teacher.

It is a hard decision and hard to know whether you are doing the right

thing - I believe the main thing to be worried about is where will Nic be

the happiest.

We started Trent off in mainstream school, the problems which arose where

far greater than the progress he was making - finally we decided to move him

onto a special school - a decision I don't regret although the educational

component of his day could have been better. The thing was he was happy and

has loads of friends.

In recent weeks, we have been to several 21st birthday parties and the one

thing I have noticed, is the kids whose parents persevered with mainstream

school are the ones who do not have social skills, would not get up and

dance or mix with the other party goers.

Keep smiling

Jan, mother of Trent 21yo w/DS from the LandDownUnder

Dilemma

OK, now that I got your attention I'll state my dilemma...lol (sorry, sent

the first email without the message).

OK, We didn't have a great first grade because of the teacher Nic had last

year. He was in a part time learning support class. Had all specials,

science and SS with the reg ed class. At the end of the year, we were told

he would have the same teacher this year. We couldn't go thru that again

with her so decided for a more restrictive environment at another district

elem school.

Nic had forged friendships with children and staff there. Everyone knows him

and it was " his " school. But we decided on the move so we wouldn't have to

fight for 9 months with her.

ESY went wonderfully! The aide (who was his aide during the reg school year)

said she can't believe he was the same child. Another fact which proves to

me that the teacher had a lot to do with his behaviors.

Well, I had this feeling that she wouldn't be returning for whatever reason

(one being she taught at 3 different schools in 3 years-not a good sign). So

today I go to the school website, look up the 2005-2006 staff and lo and

behold! She's gone. The teacher listed for LS K-2 is some one different.

So, do I call another meeting to have him moved or try out this new class

and see how it goes?

I'm so pissed! Our whole decision to move him was based on the fact that

SHE would be his teacher and now she's gone! UGH! How frustrating!

Di

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FIRST OFF congrats. I just adore you parapro folks. The ones I have

met, have done a wonderful job with kids, and have a real

appreciation for our kids. so thank you!!!!!!!!!!

Next, I know, we all hit these 'stinking' brick walls. I am hitting

one now!!

Don't give up. Just bang a little harder (or a lot) if necessary.

Keep yourself assertive (not aggressive, but assertive is GREAT~)

Get what your son needs, and TRUST your instincts!

Sounds like you have a good head on your shoulders!

I think you will be fine. Once on the other side, things will be

GREAT!

Ok, so you may have the other brick walls, but each time you knock

one down, you will be stronger for the next!!

*smiles*

lisa B

>

> I am a parapro at my kids school. While was in the process

of

> dx, I worked in the Austism program. Once dx I moved to the LD

> program because went into the autism program. Because I work

> there I know more about the teacher than an " outside " parent would.

>

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I am sorry you have to deal with this, too. I can only offer you

support, but have no other ideas for you at this point. I would

definitely push for another class, though.

I've been through 3 yrs of pushing the school to test my son, at the

insistance of his Dev. Ped (who requested a psychoeducational eval in

writing when he was in Kindergarten). The school told me they didn't

have to listen to the Dr ( " because things are different in NJ than in

PA " , where the Dr is located) and if they don't think there's a

problem, they don't have to test. It took 3 yrs, but they finally

tested and realize there is a problem. We lost 3 yrs to their

stubborness, though, and we still don't have all of the supports we need.

I know you're in a predicament because you work there, but do what you

can to get them to change his class assignment. I know from

experience that the wrong teacher can make things soooooo much more

difficult. His K-1st teacher (she looped) shouldn't even be teaching.

She's been transferred twice already within the district because of

problems. They can't fire her because she has tenure, even though

she locked one of her previous kindergarten classes in the classroom

by themselves, and left. I believe she left the building, not just

the classroom, but either way it should be enough to fire her. She's

a witch on wheels, and was the major roadblock to our getting services.

Oh, and since you are a Para Pro and I am trying to figure out what I

should ask for in his IEP, I hope you don't mind if I ask you for your

advice. My son is going into 3rd grade, and has problems with written

expression & executive function. His teacher didn't even have a

completed piece of writing from him as of March. Fortunately, he gets

in-home tutoring when he misses 3 days of school (part of his IEP due

to his medical problems), so I was able to get him to complete the

rest of his work and the tutor worked on the writing so that the

teacher would have something to show. She spent every moment (hours

and hours) and only got 2-3 short pieces of writing ( " small moments " ).

In order for him to complete any writing, he needs someone with him

to guide him...constantly, and it still takes hours. I don't believe

he is having this problem with anything other than writing. His

handwriting is much better (after 16 mos of OT), and he isn't as

perfectionistic as he used to be with it, but that's still a bit of an

issue. Primarily, it's organizing his thoughts and getting them on

paper. Do you think that is something that would be eligible for a

para pro? What exactly would a para pro do in that type of situation?

Can they work one-on-one with him or are they usually assigned to

several kids at a time? Thanks for any input you might be able to

provide.

Debbie (in NJ)

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Wow, has the principal come around and changed him to another class? A lot

of times, people get the idea that a magic pill happens and the child has no

behaviors – all fixed. The truth is way different. Even with meds, kids

still have problems and behaviors. Often times, it takes both meds and

behavior modification to make changes. Some times you can add meds to the

mix and it doesn’t help much because the situation is still the same and

still a problem. I would really keep bugging the principal about this

because having a teacher who is on the same page as the parents is worth

her/his weight in gold, IMO.

Roxanna

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I am a parapro at my kids school. While was in the process of

dx, I worked in the Austism program. Once dx I moved to the LD

program because went into the autism program. Because I work

there I know more about the teacher than an " outside " parent would.

So my dilemma starts with picking a 1st grade teacher that would

help not hurt 's progress. This has been a rough choice. WELL--

when school ended we had a happy hour and I was talking with a few

of my co-workers and we were talking about having AS. One of

the teachers (yes she was drinking, quite a bit I might add) turned

to me and said if he hits other kids then it sounds like something

other than AS. She worked with another child who was 3 with AS and

once they medicated him, it was there life line. I explained that at

the moment we do not believe in medication, there are other roads we

will take first. also has SI Dysfunction and receives SI at

school. Which as you have read some prior posts of mine, you'll know

that it is really helping. Anyway, she kept going on about meds are

a wonderful lifeline, yada, yada, yada. Of course I am not putting

down meds, please don't misunderstand. My dh and I are trying other

methods first. Besides going on about the meds, she kept saying that

obviously has something other than AS because he hits other

kids. She claims to have a background in Special Ed.

THE DILEMMA- the principal (who is also my boss) has placed in

her class. I then, spoke with him explaining why I do NOT want

in her class at all. I feel that it will have a negative impact on

. He absolutely loves my son, so I was hoping he'd switch his

teacher. Instead he said " just because she was drinking doesn't

mean.... " , I cut him off, I said " I don't care about the drinking,

it was her attitude towards my child and his condition that concerns

me " . He then told me he will see what he can do.

I am sooooo angry and after 1 1/2yrs of fighting with the school to

get services, again I feel like I have hit a brick wall. I

just want to SCREAM!!!! The only good news is that withing a year we

will be moving out of this area.

HELP!! I mean I know what I have to do-protect my child. But these

brick walls keep getting in the way and I am going to start

hammering them. ARGGGG!!

CORI

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You have just described my son's last year of school!!

Jackie

On Jul 6, 2006, at 10:48 AM, Roxanna wrote:

> Some times you can add meds to the

> mix and it doesn’t help much because the situation is still the

> same and

> still a problem.

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If you can take the financial hit, I'd go see another LLMD. Even if you are

ready to drop down to oral abx, that dose of doxy is awfully low. LLMDs really

have to go by patient response in determining the best course of treatment, and

it sounds like the IV abx is really working for you.

Good luck. Your previous LLMD has been more aggressive than most, but whatever

works. :)

csalfi@... wrote: Well heres an update to my situation.

As I posted here last week, my LLMD has some personal issues and has taken a

leave of absence (maybe for good). He was very agressive in treating lyme with

abx and for this reason he was apparently kicked out of insurance networks. He

had established an IV clinic in his office and treated a number of patients

using Dr. Jemsek's agressive abx protocol of 16-24 weeks of IV abx. I am 13

weeks into it and I've herxed like never before on orals.

12 weeks of IV Rochephin with orals of Biaxin/Tinamed/Zitro cycled in.

Last week I began IV Clindamycin. The nurse basically gave me this on her own

realized how imprtant it is for me to continue treatment (still herxing a fair

amount). That was supposed to be it for me from that office.

Went to see a new LLMD about the possibility of having him continue the IV

therapy. He basically went on to say the fact that I've been on IV abx is

amazing and way too long and that the most he is able to get insurance to cover

is 2 months worth (generally 30 days is norm). He basically slammed my current

treatment, even though I told him I had about 5 weeks into - under his treatment

plan, I would have never gotten that far. He hemmed and hawed and said, very few

people need more than 2 months worth of IV abx. To further complicate matters, I

have not ever gotten a crystal clear positive lyme test result (except for two

positive Bartonella readings). The last Igenex result showed 2 positve bands

with 3 indeterminant bands. Also, my Spect scan report was written up as normal

(although my LLMD disagreed when he looked at it). So without the clear

positive, this LLMD couldn't treat me with IV abx. He suggested I take the PIC

line out and he'll start me on 100 mgs of Doxy 2x

daily (w

hich believe it or not, I have ever taken in 2.5 years of oral abx consumption).

I was a bit frustrated upon leaving his office so I called the nurse at my

previous LLMD. She is able to get me one weeks worth of IV Vancocin, which would

have been the next abx, my LLMD would have prescribed. I am leaning towards

taking what may be my last week's worth and finding a new LLMD since I didn't

seem to jive with the new guy.

S0.................

What does everyone think? I'm so hoping that my LLMD is able to continue since

he seems to be the only one in this area that believes in aggresive abx

treatment.

Anyone every take Vancocin? Whats it like?

The herxs are becoming less severe so does this mean that orals should be able

to finish the job?

Chris

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Misty,

If he does not use it often as in daily I would wait and see how it goes. has her Wheelchair out in the Warehouse and she does not use it daily. It is there though if we go on trips. Around here like at Stores they do have the Scooters or a Wheelchair for Customers to use.

My Dad and other Seniors who I take places also have Scooters at their home. But it is not a option for me to take their scooters with us. So what I do is use the ones at the Stores.

You have a few Options though. Look around for what you need. Giving time the chance to see what is in store for you. Shop around at Thrift Stores or second hand stores. Go over to Pawn shops and check out Places where people Donate Medical Equip. These would be something which would be great if you can find it. As they are still in good shape and the cost is lower. Heck you might find something which can be of very good use.

When I am in search of something. I ask around to the Family and friends. Seems it is not long we find what I am searching for. Oddly enough to calling the AF you may find one which someone donated to them.

Churches are another one to check out Hospital Rehabs as well. Word of Mouth is Great. Ummm Look in what is called Atlanta Advertiser. I think their web site is www.atlantaadvertizer.com You may have something similar in your area.

You never know what you will find if you just wait and search out the options. People ask me sometimes about wheelchairs and Scooter's. Where can they donate one they do not use anymore. We have a Local place I send them to. The Stroller was not a Option for me as those I never knew about until a couple of years ago. You know for the older kid's.

Heck who knows..... Someone may be out there looking for someone to give their's away to someone who really needs it and is in good shape. Maybe putting in your local paper what your looking for and someone will see it and call you and all you have to do is go get it. I have had people do me that way and I tell the person who is looking for it to go pick it up.

One thing I have always done is always ask God for something and for some reason I wait and it comes to me. I have looked everywhere for something and could not find it and I turn down a road and I be dang if someone has put it out for Garbage and I go to the Dorr and ask if I can have it and they tell me sure. I ask why they are throwing it away and their reply is I did not know anyone who needed it.

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hi - i didn't read the original post so i'm not sure what the request was - but~ i live in akron, ohio....in "groups" we have a group called "Akron Cheap Cycle" and another called "Akron Free Cycle"...it's a place to post a need & if someone has something they can put at the end of their driveway...they'll respond and give an address, time, and date that it can be picked up. ~they do things as small as crockpots!! kind of a nice thing to do for someone that needs one if you have one getting dusty in the basement. so, check out for one similar in your locale? ~oshRobbin40@... wrote: Misty, If he does not use it often as in daily I would wait

and see how it goes. has her Wheelchair out in the Warehouse and she does not use it daily. It is there though if we go on trips. Around here like at Stores they do have the Scooters or a Wheelchair for Customers to use. My Dad and other Seniors who I take places also have Scooters at their home. But it is not a option for me to take their scooters with us. So what I do is use the ones at the Stores. You have a few Options though. Look around for what you need. Giving time the chance to see what is in store for you. Shop around at Thrift Stores or second hand stores. Go over to Pawn shops and check out Places where people Donate Medical Equip. These would be something which would be great if you can find it. As they are still in good shape and the cost is lower. Heck you might find something which can be of very good use. When I am in search of something. I ask around to the Family and friends. Seems

it is not long we find what I am searching for. Oddly enough to calling the AF you may find one which someone donated to them. Churches are another one to check out Hospital Rehabs as well. Word of Mouth is Great. Ummm Look in what is called Atlanta Advertiser. I think their web site is www.atlantaadvertizer.com You may have something similar in your area. You never know what you will find if you just wait and search out the options. People ask me sometimes about wheelchairs and Scooter's. Where can they donate one they do not use anymore. We have a Local place I send them to. The Stroller was not a Option for me as those I never knew about until a couple of years ago. You know for the older kid's. Heck who knows..... Someone may be out there looking for someone to give their's away to someone who really needs it and is in good shape. Maybe putting in your

local paper what your looking for and someone will see it and call you and all you have to do is go get it. I have had people do me that way and I tell the person who is looking for it to go pick it up. One thing I have always done is always ask God for something and for some reason I wait and it comes to me. I have looked everywhere for something and could not find it and I turn down a road and I be dang if someone has put it out for Garbage and I go to the Dorr and ask if I can have it and they tell me sure. I ask why they are throwing it away and their reply is I did not know anyone who needed it. Robbin Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family

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While cost is an issue, it is not the bigger one. The stroller we do

have has sat unused for many months on end. I'm not really convinced

we need it. While we do grab a chair for him to use in stores, he

does walk most of the time. We might just go without. I really hope

we wind up not needing it.

Misty & (9, systemic)

>

> Misty,

> If he does not use it often as in daily I would wait and see how

it goes.

> has her Wheelchair out in the Warehouse and she does not

use it

> daily. It is there though if we go on trips. Around here like at

Stores they do

> have the Scooters or a Wheelchair for Customers to use.

> My Dad and other Seniors who I take places also have Scooters at

their

> home. But it is not a option for me to take their scooters with us.

So what I do

> is use the ones at the Stores.

> You have a few Options though. Look around for what you need.

Giving time

> the chance to see what is in store for you. Shop around at Thrift

Stores or

> second hand stores. Go over to Pawn shops and check out Places

where people

> Donate Medical Equip. These would be something which would be great

if you can

> find it. As they are still in good shape and the cost is lower.

Heck you might

> find something which can be of very good use.

> When I am in search of something. I ask around to the Family

and friends.

> Seems it is not long we find what I am searching for. Oddly enough

to

> calling the AF you may find one which someone donated to them.

> Churches are another one to check out Hospital Rehabs as well. Word

of Mouth

> is Great. Ummm Look in what is called Atlanta Advertiser. I think

their web

> site is _www.atlantaadvertizer.com_

(http://www.atlantaadvertizer.com) You

> may have something similar in your area.

> You never know what you will find if you just wait and search

out the

> options. People ask me sometimes about wheelchairs and Scooter's.

Where can they

> donate one they do not use anymore. We have a Local place I send

them to.

> The Stroller was not a Option for me as those I never knew about

until a couple

> of years ago. You know for the older kid's.

> Heck who knows..... Someone may be out there looking for

someone to give

> their's away to someone who really needs it and is in good shape.

Maybe

> putting in your local paper what your looking for and someone will

see it and call

> you and all you have to do is go get it. I have had people do me

that way

> and I tell the person who is looking for it to go pick it up.

> One thing I have always done is always ask God for something

and for some

> reason I wait and it comes to me. I have looked everywhere for

something and

> could not find it and I turn down a road and I be dang if someone

has put it

> out for Garbage and I go to the Dorr and ask if I can have it and

they tell

> me sure. I ask why they are throwing it away and their reply is I

did not

> know anyone who needed it.

> Robbin

>

>

>

> **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists

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Merry Christmas Ben,

I am bilateral, 17yrs apart. If I could have done anything differently I would

have had both done at the same time.(back then it wasn't even considered) Your

right to consider " getting by " during that wait time, but if there is any way

for you to arrange your life to be deaf during those 4 to 6 weeks you may thank

yourself later on.

 

The stress of surgery and recovery/healing time, while not particularly bad is

still major surgery and all the risk that come with it. Also consider, you have

ins approval for bilateral right from the start (this is a big deal) many

experience problems getting a second one approved.

 

You have valid points, one ear at a time, managing during the wait period, so

weigh your options, your age, over all health, ins company, hospital stay(s)

recovery time, and make the decision that best suites you. Down the road 4 to 6

weeks of deaf won't seem like much.

 

Good luck on your hearing journey your in for quiet a ride!

 

Happy Holidays.

Michele Shields

bilateral 1991 & 2005

From: BPugh88095@... <BPugh88095@...>

Subject: Dilemma

Date: Wednesday, December 24, 2008, 8:18 AM

Hello gang, at the risk of everyone receiving this twice, I wanted to resend

since I may have used a wrong address on the first one.

Thanks for all the good information and holiday cheer from the forum. Its

truly heart warming and wonderful

Here is my dilemma. I am set for bilateral CI surgery on 1/16. Incredibly,

the insurance carrier allowed my request to do both at the same time. I use

two hearing aids but can function somewhat, not great, with the right side.

The left is gone.

Now I am having second thoughts. My concers are: a) I can still function

somewhat with the right and need to communicate post surgery and in the dead

period before mapping, B) it may take a while to grasp the new way of hearing

and this would let me communicate then, too, and c) it may be overhwhelming to

rehab both at one time. I can always have the second one later this year

without much hassle since its been approved.

Can the good folks here let me know your thoughts? All are welcome and

appreciated. Have a Merry Christmas and happy holidays.

Ben Pugh

Birmingham AL

CI surgery set on 1/6

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Ben, I wouldn't advise you, but am wondering if you are talking about

wanting to be able to understand because of your job.

I wear a CI and HA and was very thankful for the hearing aid during

the " down " period before activation. I also appreciated that I could

use the HA during the next four or five months while my brain adjusted

to my new hearing. I still have one since Medicare only pays for

one, so I have no idea what it's like to " learn " to hear being bilateral.

In my experience, I needed assistance not just before the period

before activation but for a period of time after (which is different for

everyone). So, you certainly are wise to think about this, but you

don't have a lot of time to make a decision.

I hope others will chime in here so you choose based on the

experiences of many.

Judy in Jax

>

> Hello gang, at the risk of everyone receiving this twice, I wanted to resend

> since I may have used a wrong address on the first one.

>

> Thanks for all the good information and holiday cheer from the forum. Its

> truly heart warming and wonderful

>

> Here is my dilemma. I am set for bilateral CI surgery on 1/16. Incredibly,

> the insurance carrier allowed my request to do both at the same time. I use

> two hearing aids but can function somewhat, not great, with the right side.

> The left is gone.

>

> Now I am having second thoughts. My concers are: a) I can still function

> somewhat with the right and need to communicate post surgery and in the dead

> period before mapping, B) it may take a while to grasp the new way of hearing

> and this would let me communicate then, too, and c) it may be overhwhelming

to

> rehab both at one time. I can always have the second one later this year

> without much hassle since its been approved.

>

> Can the good folks here let me know your thoughts? All are welcome and

> appreciated. Have a Merry Christmas and happy holidays.

>

> Ben Pugh

> Birmingham AL

> CI surgery set on 1/6

> _www.carrallison.com_ (http://www.carrallison.com)

>

> **************Don't be the last to know - click here for the latest news that

> will have people talking. (http://www.aol.com/?ncid=emlcntaolcom00000021)

>

>

>

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Things were different back in 2000 when I got my first one. The last thing

I told the surgeon after we spoke at length about everything was, " And by

the way, I want two. " To which he replied, " We don't do two. " I wanted it

all! If it were me, knowing what I now know after being implanted

sequentially,

I would do both.

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