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Just a few suggestions, some of which you may already be doing, but

didn't mention. Perhaps your not eating enough at each meal. This

far out you should concentrate on dense protein foods and eat a

sufficient amount to feel full. The denser the food, the more

satisfied and full you will feel. Do you drink with or right after

meals? If so, that would account for why you are hungry if you are

washing food out of the pouch too soon-allow a good 1/2 hour or

longer if you can before drinking after eating. Eat more often. No

reason to be hungry. Eat every few hours, good protein foods/snacks

if possible and small amounts but eat if hungry. Every few hours is

not considered grazing. Protein shakes are good to control carb

cravings, so add a shake or two a day to help if craving carbs or

sugars are a problem for you.

Cindy in VA

lap RNY

> I'm hoping someone has an answer to my problem or at least a way to

> better deal with it. I'm 13 months out and I'm starving all the

> time. We were never instructed and as a matter of fact

discouraged

> to drink the protein shakes. Could that have something to do with

> it? I haven't met anyone this far out with this problem.

>

> I drink about 40-60 oz of water and probably 64 oz of Crystal Lite

a

> day so I know for a fact I'm getting my fluid in. I eat protein

> first at all meals and try to snack only two or times a day or

> protein items. Piece of meat from dinner, cheese toast (low fat

> cheese/whole wheat toast), nuts etc.

>

> Anyone with any ideas or is there something I'm not doing??? My

Dr.

> says stay away from crackers & white bread and I'm doing fine. I'm

> down -88 and am a 10 or sometimes 12. But I'm only 5'2 " and I need

> to lose another 25-30 pounds. Nothing is coming off.

>

> I'd appreciate any advice anyone could give me.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Tina Terry

> RNY Ohio

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Protein shakes can help with this. I will often have one if I am hungry

to close to bed time. It doesn't way down like other protein would so it

doesn't effect my sleep but I also don't wake up at 4 in the morning

starving.

Lori Owen - Denton, Texas

SRVG 7/16/01

Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce

479/347/hoping for close to 200

On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 20:44:14 -0000 " tina and jeff terry "

writes:

> I'm hoping someone has an answer to my problem or at least a way to

> better deal with it. I'm 13 months out and I'm starving all the

> time. We were never instructed and as a matter of fact discouraged

>

> to drink the protein shakes. Could that have something to do with

>

> it? I haven't met anyone this far out with this problem.

>

> I drink about 40-60 oz of water and probably 64 oz of Crystal Lite a

>

> day so I know for a fact I'm getting my fluid in. I eat protein

> first at all meals and try to snack only two or times a day or

> protein items. Piece of meat from dinner, cheese toast (low fat

> cheese/whole wheat toast), nuts etc.

>

> Anyone with any ideas or is there something I'm not doing??? My Dr.

>

> says stay away from crackers & white bread and I'm doing fine. I'm

>

> down -88 and am a 10 or sometimes 12. But I'm only 5'2 " and I need

>

> to lose another 25-30 pounds. Nothing is coming off.

>

> I'd appreciate any advice anyone could give me.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Tina Terry

> RNY Ohio

>

>

> Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG

>

> Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe

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>

>

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In a message dated 11/21/2003 3:06:46 PM Central Standard Time,

ttina317@... writes:

> I'm 13 months out and I'm starving all the time.

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Please get yourself scoped. If you're hungry all the time, your stoma may

have relaxed. It's apparently much more common than the docs would like us to

think. In fact, I've not heard about any of them addressing this possibility at

all in pre-op education seminars.

Carol A

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Carol, I know you're thinking of going to see Dr. Gagner, and if at

all possible, I really think you should. After he transected me, he

told me that my stoma was stretched. I freaked a bit (I was 1 year

out), and I asked him if it would stretch any more. He said " No, it

was stretched to the max. " I didn't know how much I appreciated his

honesty until I would get sick if I ate too much or too fast. That's

when I would know the surgery was working. Of course, I still wonder

if it could stretch more over the years, and I guess, time will

tell. But, his honesty was refreshing.

The point is, please go see Dr. Gagner if you can. If both Dr.'s Oh

and Gagner can't do anything, then it's time to regroup, but, IMNSHO,

those 2 docs are the absolute best out there for revisions....no one

else even comes close.

Good luck, honey. Believe me, we're all watching you.

Hugs,

in NJ

**********************

>

>

> Please get yourself scoped. If you're hungry all the time, your

stoma may have relaxed. It's apparently much more common than the

docs would like us to think. In fact, I've not heard about any of

them addressing this possibility at all in pre-op education seminars.

>

> Carol A

>

>

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I know next to nothing about this subject, but this is what happened last

week when I went to see Dr. Gagner for my 2nd annual. With me in the waiting

room was a woman and we started yakking. Come to find out Dr. G had recently

revised her from (failed) RNY (he didn't do the original surgery) to BPDS, and

she was doing very well. I don't know exactly what had gone wrong with her

RNY, but she said she had started to regain weight and was having alot of

trouble keeping down PROTEIN -- was puking it up. Strangely enough (I thought)

she had no trouble eating carbs (this is what she told me.) Now I know Dr. G

usually does BPDS in 2 stages roughly 6 months apart, but she said he did hers

entirely in one surgery -- perhaps because she was a revision and not a " new "

field? I don't know. This is all I know, and she looked great and was

doing great and losing weight again.

Hope this helps, Carol.

Lucille

PS: I agree with 1 million percent, Dr. Gagner is unequalled. Plus

he's a sweetheart.

In a message dated 11/23/2003 10:08:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

>

> Carol, I know you're thinking of going to see Dr. Gagner, and if at

> all possible, I really think you should. After he transected me, he

> told me that my stoma was stretched. I freaked a bit (I was 1 year

> out), and I asked him if it would stretch any more. He said " No, it

> was stretched to the max. " I didn't know how much I appreciated his

> honesty until I would get sick if I ate too much or too fast. That's

> when I would know the surgery was working. Of course, I still wonder

> if it could stretch more over the years, and I guess, time will

> tell. But, his honesty was refreshing.

>

> The point is, please go see Dr. Gagner if you can. If both Dr.'s Oh

> and Gagner can't do anything, then it's time to regroup, but, IMNSHO,

> those 2 docs are the absolute best out there for revisions....no one

> else even comes close.

>

> Good luck, honey. Believe me, we're all watching you.

>

> Hugs,

> in NJ

>

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Carbs stay down? I learned this from VBG's early on. The ones I knew

vomited often.

Then nothing else goes down, sugar ALWAYS goes down. And when you get hungry

enough, you'll eat whatever stays down.

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Re: Re: Hungry in Ohio

> I know next to nothing about this subject, but this is what happened last

> week when I went to see Dr. Gagner for my 2nd annual. With me in the

waiting

> room was a woman and we started yakking. Come to find out Dr. G had

recently

> revised her from (failed) RNY (he didn't do the original surgery) to BPDS,

and

> she was doing very well. I don't know exactly what had gone wrong with

her

> RNY, but she said she had started to regain weight and was having alot of

> trouble keeping down PROTEIN -- was puking it up. Strangely enough (I

thought)

> she had no trouble eating carbs (this is what she told me.) Now I know

Dr. G

> usually does BPDS in 2 stages roughly 6 months apart, but she said he did

hers

> entirely in one surgery -- perhaps because she was a revision and not a

" new "

> field? I don't know. This is all I know, and she looked great and

was

> doing great and losing weight again.

>

> Hope this helps, Carol.

>

> Lucille

>

> PS: I agree with 1 million percent, Dr. Gagner is unequalled.

Plus

> he's a sweetheart.

>

>

>

> In a message dated 11/23/2003 10:08:02 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> Graduate-OSSG writes:

>

>

> >

> >

> > Carol, I know you're thinking of going to see Dr. Gagner, and if at

> > all possible, I really think you should. After he transected me, he

> > told me that my stoma was stretched. I freaked a bit (I was 1 year

> > out), and I asked him if it would stretch any more. He said " No, it

> > was stretched to the max. " I didn't know how much I appreciated his

> > honesty until I would get sick if I ate too much or too fast. That's

> > when I would know the surgery was working. Of course, I still wonder

> > if it could stretch more over the years, and I guess, time will

> > tell. But, his honesty was refreshing.

> >

> > The point is, please go see Dr. Gagner if you can. If both Dr.'s Oh

> > and Gagner can't do anything, then it's time to regroup, but, IMNSHO,

> > those 2 docs are the absolute best out there for revisions....no one

> > else even comes close.

> >

> > Good luck, honey. Believe me, we're all watching you.

> >

> > Hugs,

> > in NJ

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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I too eat like a horse(eating something every 2-3 hours) at 24 months

but after last winter when I did the same thing I finally asked my

doctor and he told me when you are thin it takes more calories to

keep your body core warm.

Since I don't gain I don't worry about it and continue to eat eat

eat, I think more than when I was MO.

I always ate right even before the surgery but find if I eat a bagel

or a 1/2 sandwich (read bread) daily I can gain a bit which I want to

do every so often when the scale hits 101 - don't like being that

thin, prefer around 104. During summer vacation I got up to 110 and

found I was eating bread, cereal, crackers a lot more than normal so

dropped them and the weight came off after 2-3 weeks.

It's a very strange world out here after surgery.

I'm also 5'2 " and hardly exercise at all maybe once a week.

Bad me :(

Cat

Dr. W. Alvarado 2/5/2002

232/102

> I'm hoping someone has an answer to my problem or at least a way to

> better deal with it. I'm 13 months out and I'm starving all the

> time. We were never instructed and as a matter of fact

discouraged

> to drink the protein shakes. Could that have something to do with

> it? I haven't met anyone this far out with this problem.

>

> I drink about 40-60 oz of water and probably 64 oz of Crystal Lite

a

> day so I know for a fact I'm getting my fluid in. I eat protein

> first at all meals and try to snack only two or times a day or

> protein items. Piece of meat from dinner, cheese toast (low fat

> cheese/whole wheat toast), nuts etc.

>

> Anyone with any ideas or is there something I'm not doing??? My

Dr.

> says stay away from crackers & white bread and I'm doing fine. I'm

> down -88 and am a 10 or sometimes 12. But I'm only 5'2 " and I need

> to lose another 25-30 pounds. Nothing is coming off.

>

> I'd appreciate any advice anyone could give me.

>

> Thanks!

>

> Tina Terry

> RNY Ohio

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