Guest guest Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 I need to talk. Today has been a really rough day. I had 2 appointments with a 2 different surgeons. One was with a general surgeon who verified that I have a hernia. It seems pretty major but not an emergency. There is large and small intestines in the herniated area. The second appointment was with a plastic surgeon. I had gone to him to see about getting the excess skin removed from my thighs at the same time the hernia operation was done. I have had yeast infections and sores behind my knees on and off for over 3 years. He basically stated that it was probably not going to look great (never really an expectation of mine), there was a potential of infection (ya think) and I would have to look at wound care (no big deal.) Here come the but, he wants me to consider having a revision to an RNY. He is concerned about me not loosing more weight and having a hernia operation. Here is the problem. I am not sure I want a revision. I suspect that there may be a staple line disruption. I have not been scoped and probably need to consider that. If there is a staple line disruption, is a revision my only choice? Is the RNY the safest of the gastric bypasses? This plastic surgeon and my general surgeon are both trying to tell me a good multivitamin and Tums will be the only supplementation I need. The Tums is a joke and a half and I know it but from everything I have read, don't RNYers have to supplement more then that? Sorry for all of the questions. I just got scared and started digging in my shoes. My general surgeon wants me to think about it but is not pushing in that direction. He would much rather me consider it now then to decide I want it later. It would be easier to do the RNY and then the hernia repair then the other way around. Any help you all can give would be great. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2003 Report Share Posted October 20, 2003 Lori, If you don't have a mechanical breakdown in your original surgery and are still losing weight, I am certain you better than anyone can decide what is best for you. If you don't want a revision, you shouldn't feel pushed into getting one. I chose the RNY basically because I had a friend who had the VBG and ended up getting revised. To be frank I knew there was no chance in he** that I'd do well with just restriction. I needed the malabsorption along with restriction to lose weight. I don't mind having to take supplements, to me it's worth it! I hope you do first and foremost what you want and what is best for your health. M > I need to talk. Today has been a really rough day. I had 2 > appointments with a 2 different surgeons. One was with a general surgeon > who verified that I have a hernia. It seems pretty major but not an > emergency. There is large and small intestines in the herniated area. > The second appointment was with a plastic surgeon. I had gone to > him to see about getting the excess skin removed from my thighs at the > same time the hernia operation was done. I have had yeast infections and > sores behind my knees on and off for over 3 years. He basically stated > that it was probably not going to look great (never really an expectation > of mine), there was a potential of infection (ya think) and I would have > to look at wound care (no big deal.) Here come the but, he wants me to > consider having a revision to an RNY. He is concerned about me not > loosing more weight and having a hernia operation. > Here is the problem. I am not sure I want a revision. I suspect > that there may be a staple line disruption. I have not been scoped and > probably need to consider that. If there is a staple line disruption, is > a revision my only choice? Is the RNY the safest of the gastric > bypasses? This plastic surgeon and my general surgeon are both trying to > tell me a good multivitamin and Tums will be the only supplementation I > need. The Tums is a joke and a half and I know it but from everything I > have read, don't RNYers have to supplement more then that? > Sorry for all of the questions. I just got scared and started > digging in my shoes. My general surgeon wants me to think about it but > is not pushing in that direction. He would much rather me consider it > now then to decide I want it later. It would be easier to do the RNY and > then the hernia repair then the other way around. Any help you all can > give would be great. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > SRVG 7/16/01 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 My mother had them fix her hernia's while they did the rny. It depends on the surgeon and his expertise I guess. May want to talk to your surgeons and see if the rny surgeon can do it in the same setting. If not, may not be a bad thing to look for another surgeon and see if they could do it. My rny surgeon would have fixed any hernias if I had had them too. As for vitamins, the best page I found to explain our deficiencies and why we have them and what we really need is: www.bariatricsupplementsystem.com Not saying you have to go with these, but the explanation is great on here. It also goes into the calcium and which one is best for you, citrate..not carbonate. My aunt took tums faithfully (she was a nurse), swore by it, got us all to take them too, had kidney stones and she had osteoperosis (sp?) not too long after. So *buzzer* not that great of stuff imo. The rny - proximal's typically take normal amounts of vitamins that most should be taking anyway imo on any fairly low cal diet. The ones who tend to have to supplement more than the norm, are distals. Feel free to do your own research. Sherra hernia/possible revision > I need to talk. Today has been a really rough day. I had 2 > appointments with a 2 different surgeons. One was with a general surgeon > who verified that I have a hernia. It seems pretty major but not an > emergency. There is large and small intestines in the herniated area. > The second appointment was with a plastic surgeon. I had gone to > him to see about getting the excess skin removed from my thighs at the > same time the hernia operation was done. I have had yeast infections and > sores behind my knees on and off for over 3 years. He basically stated > that it was probably not going to look great (never really an expectation > of mine), there was a potential of infection (ya think) and I would have > to look at wound care (no big deal.) Here come the but, he wants me to > consider having a revision to an RNY. He is concerned about me not > loosing more weight and having a hernia operation. > Here is the problem. I am not sure I want a revision. I suspect > that there may be a staple line disruption. I have not been scoped and > probably need to consider that. If there is a staple line disruption, is > a revision my only choice? Is the RNY the safest of the gastric > bypasses? This plastic surgeon and my general surgeon are both trying to > tell me a good multivitamin and Tums will be the only supplementation I > need. The Tums is a joke and a half and I know it but from everything I > have read, don't RNYers have to supplement more then that? > Sorry for all of the questions. I just got scared and started > digging in my shoes. My general surgeon wants me to think about it but > is not pushing in that direction. He would much rather me consider it > now then to decide I want it later. It would be easier to do the RNY and > then the hernia repair then the other way around. Any help you all can > give would be great. > Lori Owen - Denton, Texas > SRVG 7/16/01 > Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce > > Homepage: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Graduate-OSSG > > Unsubscribe: mailto:Graduate-OSSG-unsubscribe > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 In a message dated 10/21/2003 10:51:15 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Graduate-OSSG writes: > hernia/possible revision Lori Why can't do the do the hernia repair at the same time as the revision to the RNY? Yes, we do need to supplement more than what your doc spoke about - the amount depends on how much is bypassed, whether you are a proximal bypass, medial or a distal. I am medial (150 cm bypassed) and I take 2 adult chewable multivits a day, 1000 mg of vitamin C, 500 mcg B12 sublingual, 1800 to 2000 mg of calcium citrate (NOT TUMS), 150 mg polysaccharide iron, and a few other supplements (milk thistle, ground flaxseed meal, acidophilus and cranberry). I just have to be careful not to take the calcium within 2 hours of the iron and I have to take the calcium in 3 to 4 divided doses throughout the day. Once you get yourself into a schedule, its really easy. I do 2 to 3 protein shakes a day - and I LOVE them. I respect your being scared. Its a big decision. Its really important you have confidence in the surgeon doing the procedure, too. I hope we can all help you in this important decision. I'm keeping you in my prayers. Sandy Boca Raton, FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 21, 2003 Report Share Posted October 21, 2003 In a message dated 10/20/03 7:24:08 PM Central Daylight Time, loriowen@... writes: > My general surgeon wants me to think about it but > is not pushing in that direction. He would much rather me consider it > now then to decide I want it later. It would be easier to do the RNY and > then the hernia repair then the other way around. ------------- Lori, I agree that if you are in need of a hernia repair, NOW is the time to consider if you want to revise your WLS. If you get your hernia repair and then a year or two down the road decide to revise, you're more likely to have to deal with a recurrence of your hernia (after the revision surgery) and then get ANOTHER hernia repair. IF you want to revise, then it would be best to do it all at once. If it were me, Lori, I would seek the revision. While your VBG helped you initially, I know that you have struggled mightily with regain issues and you were unable to lose enough weight to get out of the morbidly obese category. As another fellow VBGer, I definitely understand your reluctance to move to a gastric bypass (RNY) or even a BPD/DS. However, even if it is possible to fix a staple line disruption and keep your VBG surgery (I'm not sure if it is or not), you still have the odds against you given that you are still so far away from goal weight. I know that it is by no means impossible to get there with your VBG alone, but I think you would be giving yourself the best possible chance if you revise to bypass. You KNOW that I am fan of the VBG (knock on wood, I've been very successful to date), but in my opinion, I wouldn't recommend it to someone who was more than 200 pounds overweight. You've educated yourself well by being here on this list to know what a bypass would require of you in the way of supplementing to stay healthy. If my VBG were to fail, I would first seek out the VBG with gastric sleeve (where they remove most of the stomach along the greater curvature and then band the remaining portion -- jokingly referred to as " choking the banana " ). However, if that were not available, or doable as a revision, I WOULD opt for the RNY. I would however, want a FOBI procedure where the outlet is banded, to help guard against the possibility of stoma enlargement. I realize that you were hit with this out of the blue and it has dropped a difficult decision into your lap. Take some time to think it out. Beth Houston, TX VBG - Dr. Srungaram 05/31/00 - 314 lbs. 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty 11/29/02 - 160 lbs. 5'10 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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