Syndrome X

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Metabolic Syndrome X is my disease as well. I think I should be their

poster child! After worshipping the nutrition wisdom of the AHA and

ADA during the reign of low-fat vegetarianism, I had 'dieted' my way

up to 500#. Finally my PCP decided to check for insulin resistance

(using a simple blood test for a fasting insulin level). Normal

insulin levels should be around 15 - mine was 97! As soon as I

changed my diet, the first 100# melted away. After my insulin level

normalized, I was still ~400# and *hungry* (LOL!) for more weight

loss success. Open distal RNY 22 mos ago is helping me get the rest

off (-172# since surg and still losing). Metabolic Syndrome X

includes problems with obesity, insulin sensitivity, high BP and

lipids, uric acid levels, and PCOS (some references include this one,

some don't). The AHA and ADA plans may work for some but what works

for me is strict low carbs and my fabulous tool! ALL my X-symptoms

are under control! Now what I can't control is all this empty, loose,

hanging skin!

ellen in TN

> Vitalady says,

> I have a fatal physical disease, probably called insulin

resistance, or

> Syndrome X, according to my latest article. It'll kill me. It's

tried

> several times. It's in remission right now. Has been for 9 yrs.

EXCEPT

> when I got stupid, and it didn't take but a few minutes to undo

months of

> work.

>

>

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Debbie,

My heart goes out to your hubby. My hubby same thing about the weight gain

and being a carb addict. Oh goodness it's so hard for these ppl who never

had a weight problem really to all of a sudden start acquiring one later in

their years. They do not know how to deal with it really...they never had

to like you and me who lived it. When I met my hubby, his diet consisted of

hostess dingdongs and milk and coffee. I'm NOT joking. I'm amazed he was

not dead. Since I met him, it has taken 4 or 5 years to finally get him to

realize to take protein first and to please drop the junk carbs to a few

times a week instead of every meal. It's so hard, because he was soooo kind

to me while I was having a weight issue. Never said a cross word to me

while I was fat and loved me unconditionally. I find I have to pick and

choose my words carefully so that they are supportive instead of judgemental

or degrading. I have a mouth on me..LOL. I make sure now especially since

I've lost all this weight, that he knows my advice is coming from love and I

am not going anywhere like gonna leave him or anything if he doesn't change

habits. When I get critical with him now in my mind, I remember how far he

has come....his diet is so much better now. But it will take time for your

hubby to change. But done in a positive loving way, I truly believe you can

help him. I eventually ordered some protein samples from vitalady and got

him excited to try them with me. I am not sure he was " excited " but he saw

my excitement and he got a good laugh out of taste testing them with me. He

found 2 he could stomach /cheer. So now he tries to grab atleast one a day.

I mean if you told me he'd do that a few yrs ago, I'd have told you that you

were nuts. One thing about normies, sometimes chocolate can give them

heartburn I found out...read about it too on other websites.

This is more of a vent about bad doctors than anything pertaining to your

hubby (sorry I have to get this out cause it is sorta related): He does

have a problem with his thyroid. He was on medication for years and years

and then when he moved, they took tests and said he did not need thyroid

medication. Now, c'mon....someone miraculously gets better on dingdongs? I

can only conclude that his tests were borderline (he had to be tested 3

times with his one doc in NY and they finally found him to be deficient in

his thyroid) and the California doc didn't say to himself..well gee, this

person says they been taking thyroid medication for 10 years, just maybe the

tests are not conclusive enough. So he then stopped taking his thyroid

medication - they would not renew it. It's been over a year and guess what

now? Well this is getting a little too personal but I'll just say...when

you have endocrine problems, things can happen in the sex life that are not

desireable. He's 35 too. So I noticed his weight gain. He's always been

naturally trim.

So I needled him to go back to the doc...again they say... " you do not need

thyroid medication " . He's been very lethargic and what not and the weight

gain is noticeable. This doc who said he did not need thyroid medication

also shrugged his shoulders when my hubby told him of the sex life issue.

Did he test him for testosterone? NO. I mean how many clues do you freakin

have to have slapping your face as a doc on a patient: weight gain, sex

life issues, lethargic, 10 yrs use of thyroid medication and be forced to

just stop it one day, and all of this crap been going on since he been off

that medication???? Coincidence? No. The doc told him he was just in the

majority with other men his age and to run along. I was so angry when he

came home and told me his doc's advice, I had to go to another room and beat

up a pillow and cry. I am really pissed off that his doc is so non chalant

about his issue which is OUR issue now.

I've been on his backside for a few months now to get this fixed with his

thyroid and have told myself, I will give him until first week of january to

make another appointment with a new doc and not badger him until then. I am

going to arm him with so much information on endocrine stuff that it's not

funny, no doc is gonna be able to tell him he's imagining this or that he is

normal! The bad thing is the more I keep reading, the more hatred I have

for doctors that don't give a rip about troubleshooting their patients.

These type of doctors do NOT care and just keep you coming in...not

troubleshooting..just having you come in and pay each time..and they do

nothing useful. Worthless.....so if you get a good doc, count your

blessings...over and over please.

Sherra

RE: Syndrome X

> This is an interesting topic. I have a " normie " hubby, who is a carb

junky.

> Lately all he does is gain weight. This in spite of the fact that I am

> TRYING to get him to eat healthy...and he doesn't eat that MUCH. He also

> doesn't snack. BUT his cholesterol is through the roof (they have him on

> meds, but it isn't working well) and he is on high blood pressure pills.

All

> the research I have read about Syndrome X tells me we may well be going

> about this all wrong for him. That there are some blood pressure pills

that

> aren't good for this and also some cholesterol pills are better then

others.

> Not to mention DIET. He should be following OUR diet, protein first,

veggies

> second and if you have room for anything else....then ok (in moderation).

> Low FAT doesn't seem to be the answer either. Seems to have something to

do

> with serotonin levels, which affect blood pressure AND surprisingly

> cholesterol!

>

> I don't know how to help him. He is so upset with his weight right now and

> the holidays aren't helping. And Jan is coming up (Jan is one of 's

> worse months). He isn't overweight enough to have our surgery....but I

have

> GOT to get his weight down as well as his cholesterol. HELP!!!!! I mean he

> is 5'9 " and has a 42in waist! He is over 235 pounds! I am so scared for

him.

>

> Debbie &

> in Gig Harbor

> (170cm medial)

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> -----Original Message-----

> From: Vitalady

>

> Well, as I said, it sorta defines our disease, as I'm always trying to

> explain it. That much of our oddball behavior is caused by the disease vs

> the other way around. That is not to say that there are NOT mentally

> unbalanced people among our population, but it still will match the

general

> public, like 10%. Not the 99% of us who think we're fat because we're

> crazy.

>

> I messed with chromium for a year or so and didn't see that it did or did

> not do anything, BUT, I never even kept track of the reactive

> hypoglycemia. Might be worth checking into again. If 10 of us did

> it, would we have a reasonable sampling?

>

> Thanks,

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[Guest guest]

I think that this is one of the things that annoys me the most. It's

the " all your problems are because you're fat " which then turns into

" those problems are normal for your age " - I left a doctor because

of the " age " comment - if they don't test, how do they know? I think

it's malpractice in action, personally.

Pam in Niceville

Re: Syndrome X

I am really pissed off that his doc is so non chalant

about his issue which is OUR issue now.

I've been on his backside for a few months now to get this fixed

with his

thyroid and have told myself, I will give him until first week of

january to

make another appointment with a new doc and not badger him until

then. I am

going to arm him with so much information on endocrine stuff that

it's not

funny, no doc is gonna be able to tell him he's imagining this or

that he is

normal! The bad thing is the more I keep reading, the more hatred I

have

for doctors that don't give a rip about troubleshooting their

patients.

These type of doctors do NOT care and just keep you coming in...not

troubleshooting..just having you come in and pay each time..and they

do

nothing useful. Worthless.....so if you get a good doc, count your

blessings...over and over please.

Sherra

[Guest guest]

> I've been on his backside for a few months now to get this fixed with his

> thyroid and have told myself, I will give him until first week of january

to

> make another appointment with a new doc and not badger him until then. I

am

> going to arm him with so much information on endocrine stuff that it's not

> funny, no doc is gonna be able to tell him he's imagining this or that he

is

> normal! The bad thing is the more I keep reading, the more hatred I have

> for doctors that don't give a rip about troubleshooting their patients.

> These type of doctors do NOT care and just keep you coming in...not

> troubleshooting..just having you come in and pay each time..and they do

> nothing useful. Worthless.....so if you get a good doc, count your

> blessings...over and over please.

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Sherra, I have mentioned this web site regarding Thyroid problems couple of

times before. http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com . Dr. and many other

doctors believe the Thyroid tests we do is useless most of the time. You

never find a test to have such a wide range for normal reading. The reason

is when they were trying to set the limits for normal, they got people who

didn't know they had Thyroid problem along with normal people. So, unless

you are extremely deficient in your Thyroid, the tests would show normal.

What part of California do you live? I might have a good doctor for you.

M.

Lap Proximal RNY 98

Lap Medial RNY Oct 03

[Guest guest]

Thanks a ton, . I will read that website.

I live in San , California. He is right now with kaiser, but he is

changing first of the year to a plan that he can choose to go to an

endocrinologist on his own and not have to worry about general doctor egos

about passing their patients off to a specialist.

Sherra

Re: Syndrome X

>

> > I've been on his backside for a few months now to get this fixed with

his

> > thyroid and have told myself, I will give him until first week of

january

> to

> > make another appointment with a new doc and not badger him until then.

I

> am

> > going to arm him with so much information on endocrine stuff that it's

not

> > funny, no doc is gonna be able to tell him he's imagining this or that

he

> is

> > normal! The bad thing is the more I keep reading, the more hatred I

have

> > for doctors that don't give a rip about troubleshooting their patients.

> > These type of doctors do NOT care and just keep you coming in...not

> > troubleshooting..just having you come in and pay each time..and they do

> > nothing useful. Worthless.....so if you get a good doc, count your

> > blessings...over and over please.

> ------------------------------------------

> Sherra, I have mentioned this web site regarding Thyroid problems couple

of

> times before. http://www.wilsonssyndrome.com . Dr. and many other

> doctors believe the Thyroid tests we do is useless most of the time. You

> never find a test to have such a wide range for normal reading. The

reason

> is when they were trying to set the limits for normal, they got people who

> didn't know they had Thyroid problem along with normal people. So, unless

> you are extremely deficient in your Thyroid, the tests would show normal.

>

> What part of California do you live? I might have a good doctor for you.

>

> M.

> Lap Proximal RNY 98

> Lap Medial RNY Oct 03

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well it is interesting that you should mention chromium. My Dad (the

resident Asperger herb/supplement expert) calls me up the other day

to tell me that I NEED chromium so I am going to the health food

store tomorrow to pick some up. Count me in as one of the 10 (or 20

as it is looking right now!)

~Kricket

298/138

> I messed with chromium for a year or so and didn't see that it did

or

> did not do anything, BUT, I never even kept track of the reactive

> hypoglycemia. Might be worth checking into again. If 10 of us did

> it, would we have a reasonable sampling?

[Guest guest]

Debbie, is this since I saw you both in July? (the weight gain for

your hubby?). Cause as I remember him in July, he looked just fine

to me (as in no weight problem that I could see). But I do kinda

know what you mean. My own dh is 6'4 " and he used to be 180 (before

he quit smoking 6 years ago). He is now probably 215. I think he

looks a lot better as he was rail thin at 180. But inwardly I do

feel guilty as I have been cooking up a storm (mainly desserts) as

my own selfish way to deal with the need to be around food (gotta

stop that!). And my dear hubby cannot resist any of my fine cooking,

LOL (last night I knocked him out with a Peach Sour Cream Pie that I

whipped up). <sigh> My own fault I know!

~Kricket

> This is an interesting topic. I have a " normie " hubby, who is a

carb junky.

> Lately all he does is gain weight. HELP!!!!! I mean he

> is 5'9 " and has a 42in waist! He is over 235 pounds! I am so

scared for him.

>

> Debbie &

[Guest guest]

HAHAHAHA I'm not sure on some days that I know MY husband. LOL

Debbie &

in Gig Harbor

(170cm medial)

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Re: Re: Syndrome X

Debbie, I wasn't aware you knew my husband !!! in TX...