Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 I think my fingers just fired off a blank post, blame it on " sugar " jitters! All night, my brain has been churnin' on " high protein, low carb, what am I afraid of?!? " (like giving up my Detour bar!). This morning, after having my Kashi Crunch & F/F Milk with Strawberries breakfast, I thought I should explore the high protein/low carb options. I am exactly ONE week away from my TT, and seems to me like maybe this is a good week to give high protein/low carb a whirl, esp that I am up 4 lbs from where I want to be ideally going into surgery. ly, I am not sure how best to go about this, esp incorporating the shakes into a day's diet etc. This is what confuses me. Are the shakes used as a meal replacement?, or an adjunct to meals like a " snack " ? So, would a breakfast be a shake, and nothing else? Lunch? Dinner? What carbs are recommended (veggies, but no fruit at first I would assume????). What about fiber (should I supplement with Citrucel?) In the spirit of self-help, I went to my copy of South Beach Diet, which I hadn't really examined till this morning, and got some clues, I think, as to food choices, but still don't know how or when to slam down those shakes, or even how many to slam down per day. And just leafing through South Beach, immediately I found what seems to be a total contradiction, and it is the sort of thing that drives me NUTSO: on page 49 he states the following: " Mustard's great, and even mayonnaise, as long as you don't overdo it. Remember to use the regular kind, not the low fat. Regular mayo is high in fat, but it is predominantly soybean oil, a good fat... " THEN I am checking out " Phase One " recipes, and on page 179 he has one for " Cilantro Mayonnaise " where the VERY FIRST ingredient is " 3/4 cup of reduced-fat mayonnaise. " HELLO AM I CRAZY OR WHAT? Does this not seem a tad contradictory? Lest I appear to be overly obsessive about mayo, I just wanna know if I want to eat tuna salad as a protein source, can I put some damn mayo in it, and if I can, WHAT KIND? Even more precariously, can I chop up a small amount of celery into it or what?, cause right now I am not entirely trusting the South Beach guy. And here is the most important question: do I have to give up my nightly mug of s/f f/f cocoa, later followed by my nightly serving of s/f f/f chocolate pudding (dollop of f/f Cool Whip on top)??? I think I can ditch the Detour bar, but the cocoa and pudding would be extremely painful to relinquish (she says, pathetically). Seriously though, I would be MOST grateful for advice. Chocaholically yours, Lucille Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2003 Report Share Posted September 1, 2003 > I think my fingers just fired off a blank post, blame it on " sugar " jitters! All night, my brain has been churnin' on " high protein, low carb, what am I afraid of?!? " (like giving up my Detour bar!). This morning, after having my Kashi Crunch & F/F Milk with Strawberries breakfast, I thought I should explore the high protein/low carb options. I am exactly ONE week away from my TT, and seems to me like maybe this is a good week to give high protein/low carb a whirl, esp that I am up 4 lbs from where I want to be ideally going into surgery. ly, I am not sure how best to go about this, esp incorporating the shakes into a day's diet etc. This is what confuses me. Are the shakes used as a meal replacement?, or an adjunct to meals like a " snack " ? So, would a breakfast be a shake, and nothing else? Lunch? Dinner? What carbs are recommended (veggies, but no fruit at first I would assume????). What about fiber (should I supplement with Citrucel?) In the spirit of self-help, I went to my copy of South Beach Diet, which I hadn't really examined till this morning, and got some clues, I think, as to food choices, but still don't know how or when to slam down those shakes, or even how many to slam down per day. And just leafing through South Beach, immediately I found what seems to be a total contradiction, and it is the sort of thing that drives me NUTSO: on page 49 he states the following: " Mustard's great, and even mayonnaise, as long as you don't overdo it. Remember to use the regular kind, not the low fat. Regular mayo is high in fat, but it is predominantly soybean oil, a good fat... " THEN I am checking out " Phase One " recipes, and on page 179 he has one for " Cilantro Mayonnaise " where the VERY FIRST ingredient is " 3/4 cup of reduced-fat mayonnaise. " HELLO AM I CRAZY OR WHAT? Does this not seem a tad contradictory? Lest I appear to be overly obsessive about mayo, I just wanna know if I want to eat tuna salad as a protein source, can I put some damn mayo in it, and if I can, WHAT KIND? Even more precariously, can I chop up a small amount of celery into it or what?, cause right now I am not entirely trusting the South Beach guy. And here is the most important question: do I have to give up my nightly mug of s/f f/f cocoa, later followed by my nightly serving of s/f f/f chocolate pudding (dollop of f/f Cool Whip on top)??? I think I can ditch the Detour bar, but the cocoa and pudding would be extremely painful to relinquish (she says, pathetically). Seriously though, I would be MOST grateful for advice. <<< Hello Lucille! First piece of advice - take a deep breath - now take a couple more deep breaths and exhale s-l-o-w-l-y. LOL It does sound like you might benefit from altering your diet a bit by moving away from some of the carbs. From what I have read about the South Beach Diet, it focuses on getting rid of the simple sugars and refined carbs. That's a good thing because we all need complex carbs that have a low glycemic index rating but need to avoid the simple carbs with a high glycemic index rating. Next piece of advice - start you day with a protein shake. That's the first thing I do when I get up. It gives me a good solid protein base for feeding my hungry muscles (they haven't had any fuel all night!) and to keep the carb cravings at bay. A couple of hours later, I have some food - the shakes are not a meal replacement but are a 'meat' replacement - something like a piece of cheese with a whole wheat cracker or some cottage cheese, etc. I alternate eating and shakes throughout the day - I am distal so I have 6 shakes and 3 to 4 SMALL meals each day. Other meals might be a little bowl of refried beans with cheese sprinkles over it, tuna, ham or chicken salad (great on cucumber rounds), some veggies stir fried in olive oil and butter and some provolone cheese melted over them, cottage cheese with ground flax seed sprinkled over it or peanut butter and sugar free jelly on whole wheat bread (half a sandwich), etc. I occasionally eat a few slices of apple, some berries, or a couple of orange segments. I keep my fruits to a minimum because of the sugar. It may be natural sugar, but it is sugar. So when I eat fruit, I try to eat fruit that has a good bit of fiber in it as well. I never eat a whole fruit (except berries, of course!) Not sure why the discrepancy in the book over mayo. Probably because they get their recipes from lots of sources and the editor slipped up. I use full fat mayo, within reason of course - I don't put a pint of mayo in a can of tuna, but I use the real thing. Most reduced fat foods use sugar to replace the flavor lost by removing fat. And if you want a little celery chopped up in your tuna, go for it. It has lots of fiber. Just be sure to chop it up finely and/or remove the strings first. About the sf ff cocoa...how are you making it? Not with milk, right? And is it really sf or just no sugar added? I always check the nutrition label. Sometimes the names can be deceptive. I make my own cocoa using Better Than Milk, cocoa powder, splenda and a little sf Da Vinci toasted marshmallow syrup - and throw a little ProCel protein powder for extra value. Yum. Same for the pudding. Are you making it with milk? There's the sugar again - 12 grams of sugar for an 8 ounce portion of any milk, whether it's whole or fat free. I haven't tried it cause pudding isn't my thing, but you might try it made with Better Than Milk. Or better, how about a nice chocolate protein shake topped off with a dollop of cool whip. Have you tried ProScore 100 or Pure Whey Stack in chocolate? Who needs pudding! I use protein bars sometimes as a quick meal. I only use half of a Detour, though. Too many sugar grams in a whole on. I also use the Tri-O-Plex bars - again a half or a third cause they are big - or the Strata bars that are alot like the Detour but smaller and less sugar and carbs. For fiber, you might want to pick up some ground flax seed to sprinkle over some foods or add to one or two of your shakes a day. It adds a nutty taste and some body to them. With surgery coming up, you would probably benefit from protein loading so your tissues are nice and firm and you heal better. Just add several additional protein shakes a day and it should really help. Best of luck with your TT. I hope to have mine in December. And remember - breathe!! LOL Sheri In sunny Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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