Re: Wow, count me in as another hit the wall today:-(

[Guest guest]

,

I'm right there holding your hand and trying to kick down that wall:-

)

This not being able to chew business and generally not being able to

eat like we used to truly does suck BIG TIME! Sometimes I wonder if

I'll ever be able to eat a steak or even bite into a sandwhich as I

had dreamed of doing pre-surgery. There's only so much goo and

liquid one can take. When I get to thinking like this I remind

myself first of Carol who has gone for 6 weeks eating only liquids

and has to go through another 2 weeks. So I tell myself well if

Carol can survive then I have to survive. Then I remind myself of

all the members who got surgery 6 months ago, 1 year ago, 2 years

ago and so on and how pleased they all are with their surgery

results. And I tell myself, " Now Sara, if they still couldn't eat

properly they'd tell us so it has to get better! " I admit, I'm still

highly sceptical about the whole eating scenario since just trying

to chew on very mushy creme caramel today felt like running a

marathon today BUT the body and the mouth is a wonderous creature

and I am convinced that pretty soon our darn jaws will figure out

that they need to get with the program and getting moving again!

Now onto the lips issue. I have the very same problem too. Not sure

if you saw my reply to your post on group 2 but please try not to

stress too much about this. I am willing to bet that once they take

the splint off it will be miles better and perfect once they take

the braces off. All this hardware we have inside sure does make it

hard for the lips to meet together properly. Plus, the upper lip

area is one of the last areas to lose numbness. I know for me it's

still visibly tense partly because my nose is still also all numb

and I did even have to undergo the septoplasty. So consider the

septoplasty as having added some more numbness that you would have

otherwise not had. Give yourself some time.

Lastly, not being able to breathe. I still think it's too early for

all the congestion to be gone. Mine definitely isn't and I actually

go in their everyday and clean out all the gunk with a cu-tip. I

know grosse! Sorry:-( But a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do.

HOWEVER, if you actually feel that the septum is still bowed out

definitely bring it up with your surgeon. If you can wait until Weds

to bring it up but if it's really driving you crazy then do as DH

says, call the doctor first thing on Monday. At the very least he'll

be prepared to discuss it on Weds when you go in and see him.

my dear, here's to hoping that tomorrow and the next day

and the one after that is easier than today was. These brick walls

are starting to get OLD!

Sending you lots of hugs,

Sara

PS Like everyone else told me, you don't have to be positive if you

don't feel like it. That's why were here for, to listen to you in

good and bad times along this journey.

[Guest guest]

, sorry you've hit a rough spot, but remember it's probably

perfectly normal. And hey, you're paying your surgeon BIG BUCKS, so be

a pest if you want to. Seriously, call him. Ask your questions. It's

your right to be an informed consumer. Hang in there. Luna

> Hi guys,

>

> Just wanting to vent. I'm having a depressing day today. I'm just

> really moody and having issues. First the good news, my swelling has

> gone down alot over the last day or so, not nearly gone, but it's

> good enough to dare to put some lipstick on:-). Also, I'm starting

> to look like " myself " again. (a better myself, but still myself,

> which is comforting).

>

> Now....the whiny part. I'm having trouble breathing again out of my

> left nostril. I know that I'm supposed to be congested, but this is

> getting ridiculous. I have a sneaking suspicion that my surgeon was

> conservative in " bumping " my septum back into place and he really

> should have taken some cartlidge out because (okay, I know this is

> gross, but I had to do it) I can actually feel a bow in it with my

> finger, like it's trying to be straight, and it fits on the top and

> bottom but not in the middle, kinda like this .(. Also, I can breathe

> quite a bit easier if I kind of hold my nostril open, but I can't go

> around doing that all day!!! And when I breathe, the right nostril

> goes in like a normal nostril does, but the left one just sits there

> all tight. The nasal sprays aren't working anymore either, I think

> my septum may be slowly reverting. My DH tells me to call the

> surgeon on Monday, but I feel like I'm doubting him if I call, like

> I'm being a pest. Plus I have an appt on Wed. to see him. I don't

> want to have to get this re-done, I'm so sick of surgeries right

> now. I just want to cry :-(.

>

> Then there's the whole I can't close my lips without straining thing

> still. I have about 3 mm to go, and my upper lip has alot of

> swelling still and I can't move it much, so I'm hoping beyond hope

> that they will come together eventually. Granted, it's a huge

> improvement, so I shouldn't complain.

>

> And along that lines, I'm so sick of not being able to kiss my

> husband! I can't even manage a pucker right now even if I could feel

> it.

>

> And I'm hungry darn it! I did have some KFC mashed potatoes and

> gravy today with a biscuit crumbled in gravy for dinner, and that was

> really good, but I really miss chewing. Also, I'm breaking out big

> time, and I thought I got lucky and missed it because I didn't start

> breaking out right after surgery like I expected. I've got more acne

> than a teenager right now!

>

> If you've made it this far to read all this, thanks!, I know I've

> written a novel. I'm trying to keep positive, and I've done such a

> good job of it so far, but today was just too much for me to handle.

> Maybe its all the stress of going back to work this past week, being

> exhausted, or the not eating enough, I don't know. I'm just glad I

> have people who can relate to what I'm going through.

>

> Thanks for listening,

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I haven't had the surgery but I'm sure things will get better for you.

I'm helping Sara bringing that wall down. I hear it's crumbling.

Kwan

> ,

>

> I'm right there holding your hand and trying to kick down that wall:-

> )

>

> This not being able to chew business and generally not being able to

> eat like we used to truly does suck BIG TIME! Sometimes I wonder if

> I'll ever be able to eat a steak or even bite into a sandwhich as I

> had dreamed of doing pre-surgery. There's only so much goo and

> liquid one can take. When I get to thinking like this I remind

> myself first of Carol who has gone for 6 weeks eating only liquids

> and has to go through another 2 weeks. So I tell myself well if

> Carol can survive then I have to survive. Then I remind myself of

> all the members who got surgery 6 months ago, 1 year ago, 2 years

> ago and so on and how pleased they all are with their surgery

> results. And I tell myself, " Now Sara, if they still couldn't eat

> properly they'd tell us so it has to get better! " I admit, I'm still

> highly sceptical about the whole eating scenario since just trying

> to chew on very mushy creme caramel today felt like running a

> marathon today BUT the body and the mouth is a wonderous creature

> and I am convinced that pretty soon our darn jaws will figure out

> that they need to get with the program and getting moving again!

>

> Now onto the lips issue. I have the very same problem too. Not sure

> if you saw my reply to your post on group 2 but please try not to

> stress too much about this. I am willing to bet that once they take

> the splint off it will be miles better and perfect once they take

> the braces off. All this hardware we have inside sure does make it

> hard for the lips to meet together properly. Plus, the upper lip

> area is one of the last areas to lose numbness. I know for me it's

> still visibly tense partly because my nose is still also all numb

> and I did even have to undergo the septoplasty. So consider the

> septoplasty as having added some more numbness that you would have

> otherwise not had. Give yourself some time.

>

> Lastly, not being able to breathe. I still think it's too early for

> all the congestion to be gone. Mine definitely isn't and I actually

> go in their everyday and clean out all the gunk with a cu-tip. I

> know grosse! Sorry:-( But a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do.

> HOWEVER, if you actually feel that the septum is still bowed out

> definitely bring it up with your surgeon. If you can wait until Weds

> to bring it up but if it's really driving you crazy then do as DH

> says, call the doctor first thing on Monday. At the very least he'll

> be prepared to discuss it on Weds when you go in and see him.

>

> my dear, here's to hoping that tomorrow and the next day

> and the one after that is easier than today was. These brick walls

> are starting to get OLD!

>

> Sending you lots of hugs,

> Sara

>

> PS Like everyone else told me, you don't have to be positive if you

> don't feel like it. That's why were here for, to listen to you in

> good and bad times along this journey.

[Guest guest]

1. Do not ever be embarrassed about calling your surgeon. No, you

don't want to be the patient who calls every half hour. But hey, you

and your insurance company are paying this person a pile of money to

take care of you, and you are entitled to advice on any serious

troubles.

It's not doubting, to call. It's doubting his dedication NOT to call

if you have a concern.

2. About the nose: You probably still have a pile of swelling, and

who knows (nose?) how it will sort out. Some people have had good

relief from Breathe-right strips. Might be worth a try...

> Hi guys,

>

> Just wanting to vent. I'm having a depressing day today. I'm

just

> really moody and having issues. First the good news, my swelling

has

> gone down alot over the last day or so, not nearly gone, but it's

> good enough to dare to put some lipstick on:-). Also, I'm

starting

> to look like " myself " again. (a better myself, but still myself,

> which is comforting).

>

> Now....the whiny part. I'm having trouble breathing again out of

my

> left nostril. I know that I'm supposed to be congested, but this

is

> getting ridiculous. I have a sneaking suspicion that my surgeon

was

> conservative in " bumping " my septum back into place and he really

> should have taken some cartlidge out because (okay, I know this is

> gross, but I had to do it) I can actually feel a bow in it with my

> finger, like it's trying to be straight, and it fits on the top

and

> bottom but not in the middle, kinda like this .(. Also, I can

breathe

> quite a bit easier if I kind of hold my nostril open, but I can't

go

> around doing that all day!!! And when I breathe, the right

nostril

> goes in like a normal nostril does, but the left one just sits

there

> all tight. The nasal sprays aren't working anymore either, I

think

> my septum may be slowly reverting. My DH tells me to call the

> surgeon on Monday, but I feel like I'm doubting him if I call,

like

> I'm being a pest. Plus I have an appt on Wed. to see him. I

don't

> want to have to get this re-done, I'm so sick of surgeries right

> now. I just want to cry :-(.

>

> Then there's the whole I can't close my lips without straining

thing

> still. I have about 3 mm to go, and my upper lip has alot of

> swelling still and I can't move it much, so I'm hoping beyond hope

> that they will come together eventually. Granted, it's a huge

> improvement, so I shouldn't complain.

>

> And along that lines, I'm so sick of not being able to kiss my

> husband! I can't even manage a pucker right now even if I could

feel

> it.

>

> And I'm hungry darn it! I did have some KFC mashed potatoes and

> gravy today with a biscuit crumbled in gravy for dinner, and that

was

> really good, but I really miss chewing. Also, I'm breaking out

big

> time, and I thought I got lucky and missed it because I didn't

start

> breaking out right after surgery like I expected. I've got more

acne

> than a teenager right now!

>

> If you've made it this far to read all this, thanks!, I know I've

> written a novel. I'm trying to keep positive, and I've done such

a

> good job of it so far, but today was just too much for me to

handle.

> Maybe its all the stress of going back to work this past week,

being

> exhausted, or the not eating enough, I don't know. I'm just glad

I

> have people who can relate to what I'm going through.

>

> Thanks for listening,

>