Re: Upset about article flat head syndrome and developemental delay

[Guest guest]

I just read this article, basically they are just saying there is a correlation between plagio and developmental delays. I honestly don't think that having plagio/brachy CAUSE developmental delays, though I do think there may be some truth to a child PRONE to developmental delay may be more likely to result in plagio due to being less physically active. (and not that that is at all the cause of all cases) I just say this because I observed plagio in my 2nd son who slept constantly as an infant and has always been VERY content NOT to move and always hated tummy time (also has tort) and he is a little bit developmental delayed though still normal, as opposed to my first child who rarely slept, and crawled and walked very early, overactive kid. so I would not worry about your childs head causing any delays, and he sounds perfectly

fine to me btw. leFrom: <jens879@...>Subject: Upset about article flat head syndrome and developemental delayPlagiocephaly Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 2:31 PM

Has anyone else read this article:

http://www.scientif icblogging. com/news_ articles/ infants_flat_ head_syndrome_ risk_development al_delay_ study

My son has brachy and got his DOC band a week ago; he's 10 months old. He is slightly behind on some physical stuff. He crawls backward and sideways and rolls all around, but not forward. He doesn't pull himself up. He sits very well, but doesn't get into sit from laying down. He does babble a lot and claps and waves and mocks us. I'm just hoping it's just a delay and he'll catch up with no lasting effects later. I just feel so bad. We tried to turn his head when he was younger, but he always ended up sleeping straight back on his head. I wish pediatrician' s educated people more about this from early on. My ped never seemed all that concern, just said it should start rounding out and then finally sent us at 9 months. Just venting I guess! Thanks for listening.

[Guest guest]

Well my hope is that my doctors office isn't the only one who's been

educated by this. Mine only knew b/c the neurosurgeons office told

them when they ruled out cranio. But now they know about it and have

even called me for info on the band plaaces (now they have the info in

office so don't, but they were able to call before b/c my mom is a

nurse there). They are educated and refer ppl now.

As for delays if those are the only issues he doesn't sound behind to

me, maybe on the later end of the range but still within the normal

range. I've had kids like that. I can't say delays are due to plagio

or banding, maybe tort can contribute but my plagio/band son was

sitting, crawling, pulling up at 6 month and walked before 10 month so

was my 2nd earliest (my 1st earliest was adhd) .

On 2/15/10, <jens879@...> wrote:

> Has anyone else read this article:

>

http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_articles/infants_flat_head_syndrome_risk_\

developmental_delay_study

>

> My son has brachy and got his DOC band a week ago; he's 10 months old. He is

> slightly behind on some physical stuff. He crawls backward and sideways and

> rolls all around, but not forward. He doesn't pull himself up. He sits very

> well, but doesn't get into sit from laying down. He does babble a lot and

> claps and waves and mocks us. I'm just hoping it's just a delay and he'll

> catch up with no lasting effects later. I just feel so bad. We tried to turn

> his head when he was younger, but he always ended up sleeping straight back

> on his head. I wish pediatrician's educated people more about this from

> early on. My ped never seemed all that concern, just said it should start

> rounding out and then finally sent us at 9 months. Just venting I guess!

> Thanks for listening.

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My cranial doctor did tell me that with some cases, the flatness of the head makes it hard for babies to roll over, but other than that, there appear to be no developmental delays associated. This study was done with 6 month olds so the only motor delays they could be talking about are probably rolling over and maybe sitting up. Of course, they may also be talking about fine motor skills - I'm not really sure.

Also, the instrument that was used may or may not be the best standard for measuring motor skills. It is an instrument used by a psychologist to look at development in general rather than an instrument that would be used by a physical or occupational therapist to look at fine and gross motor skills. Typically, I've seen the Peabody test used. However, the study may have needed a quicker measure of those skills and so the Bayley was used. FYI - The Bayley is the psychological standard as the best we have to estimate IQ in babies - however, it does it by looking at the difference aspects of development and includes motor skills. IQ tests in older children do not measure motor skills. It is a poor predictor of IQ.

Also, keep in mind that the rate of motor development has absolutely no relationship to later cognitive, academic, or language development. Only severly delayed motor skills seem to be related to more severe forms of intellectual disability or some sort of physical or neurological disability. Most children with mild intellectual or learning disabilities met their developmental milestones on time. The exception to this is language development. There are a subset of children with learning and intellectual disabilities who had language delays. However, there are also several children diagnosed with language delays who get therapy and are fine by the time they hit school.

So - even if the article is right - don't worry so much about it. If you see the need, ask for an assessment to see if physical therapy is needed.

In the meantime, these kinds of articles may help insurance companies decide that they need to cover the helmet.

, mom to , 29 months

STARband grad May 2009

Chiro and CST

land

Upset about article flat head syndrome and developemental delayHas anyone else read this article:http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_articles/infants_flat_head_syndrome_risk_developmental_delay_studyMy son has brachy and got his DOC band a week ago; he's 10 months old. He is slightly behind on some physical stuff. He crawls backward and sideways and rolls all around, but not forward. He doesn't pull himself up. He sits very well, but doesn't get into sit from laying down. He does babble a lot and claps and waves and mocks us. I'm just hoping it's just a delay and he'll catch up with no lasting effects later. I just feel so bad. We tried to turn his head when he was younger, but he always ended up sleeping straight back on his head. I wish pediatrician's educated people more about this from early on. My ped never seemed all that concern, just said it should start rounding out and then finally sent us at 9 months. Just venting I guess! Thanks for listening.

[Guest guest]

Hey!

Please calm down. I've read articles like that and I've done my researches already.

First of all if it's event true( something that I don't really believe) - it's only true for babies that are not treated. You are treating your son - he already has the helmet, so there is no reason to worry.

May be your son can't do some stuff yet , but so what each baby is an individual and does everything in his own time. I am just looking at my older's son Baby Record Book. He was a very cautious baby. He wouldn't crawl, stand or walk before he's sure that he's safe. Dani is the opposite - he jumps from the bed not worring that he'll hit his head, tries to stand and of course falls and bumps his head again. wasn't even trying before he was sure that he's stong enough. He started crawling when he was 11 months and he started walking when he was 14 months and he didn't have plagio.So plagio has nothing to do with it.

He's defenitely not delayed now. He's the best tennis player in all Illinois for 8 year's old boys. He plays soccer, skies, he's so active. He's pretty good at school as well. So what if he has started walkeng late , he was just cautious. He wanted to do everything alone and he wasn't doing it untill he was ready to.

Seriously don't worry. I think Collin is alright.

As about your pediatrician - if you don't trust him/her - change him/her. That's what I am doing. Actually today is my first appointment with our new Pedi. I am really hoping that this one will be more educated. I've even prepared a little test for him and I'll be so disappointed if he doesn't pass it.I won't put Dani's helmet and I'll wait to see if he'll notice something.

My previous Pedi had no clue about the plagio. I noticed that there is something wrong with his head and started asking her. She then said it might be plagio, but to wait beceuase anyway nobody will do anything before the baby turns 6 mths. This aof course isn't true( because some people start treatment at 3-4 mths), but I had no idea at that time. Finally at 6mths she gave me a referral and when I went to see the orthotist he told me that my son might have torticollis and I should ask the Pedi about a referral for PT. The Pedi had no idea what torticollis is. She gave me a referral, though, for EI and I had to wait for 2 mths to be seen. I've asked my Pedi for another PT and she told me that I should wait and not to worry because it's not urgent. That wasn't true either. People start treating torticollis at 2 mths. I called the Children's Hospital and they scheduled appt immediately , because they thought it's urgent and it was.

That's how I ended up going for PT in the Children's Hospital in downtown. After all that I just can't go back to my Pedi. If she doesn't know something she can at least do some research instead of trying to make me believe that it's not a big deal.I have to go now, because I'll be late, but PLEASE calm down. If you worry too much just talk to a doctor.

Talk to you soon .

Margarita

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the comments! I do feel better today. I was just upset when I first read the article. I know his brachy (he does not have tort) may not have to do with him being a bit behind. Like I said, he's a little behind on some physical milestones, but not fine motor. My ped wasn't worried at his 9 month and I'll readdress any concerns I have at his 12 month. I work with him everyday and he does get around the room fast. He is also a laid back baby. If he ends up needing some PT, that's fine, of course we'll get that for him. From: Kazinsky <skazinsky@...>Subject: Re: Upset about article flat head syndrome and developemental

delayPlagiocephaly Date: Tuesday, February 16, 2010, 3:38 PM

Hey!

Please calm down. I've read articles like that and I've done my researches already.

First of all if it's event true( something that I don't really believe) - it's only true for babies that are not treated. You are treating your son - he already has the helmet, so there is no reason to worry.

May be your son can't do some stuff yet , but so what each baby is an individual and does everything in his own time. I am just looking at my older's son Baby Record Book. He was a very cautious baby. He wouldn't crawl, stand or walk before he's sure that he's safe. Dani is the opposite - he jumps from the bed not worring that he'll hit his head, tries to stand and of course falls and bumps his head again. wasn't even trying before he was sure that he's stong enough. He started crawling when he was 11 months and he started walking when he was 14 months and he didn't have plagio.So plagio has nothing to do with it.

He's defenitely not delayed now. He's the best tennis player in all Illinois for 8 year's old boys. He plays soccer, skies, he's so active. He's pretty good at school as well. So what if he has started walkeng late , he was just cautious. He wanted to do everything alone and he wasn't doing it untill he was ready to.

Seriously don't worry. I think Collin is alright.

As about your pediatrician - if you don't trust him/her - change him/her. That's what I am doing. Actually today is my first appointment with our new Pedi. I am really hoping that this one will be more educated. I've even prepared a little test for him and I'll be so disappointed if he doesn't pass it.I won't put Dani's helmet and I'll wait to see if he'll notice something.

My previous Pedi had no clue about the plagio. I noticed that there is something wrong with his head and started asking her. She then said it might be plagio, but to wait beceuase anyway nobody will do anything before the baby turns 6 mths. This aof course isn't true( because some people start treatment at 3-4 mths), but I had no idea at that time. Finally at 6mths she gave me a referral and when I went to see the orthotist he told me that my son might have torticollis and I should ask the Pedi about a referral for PT. The Pedi had no idea what torticollis is. She gave me a referral, though, for EI and I had to wait for 2 mths to be seen. I've asked my Pedi for another PT and she told me that I should wait and not to worry because it's not urgent. That wasn't true either. People start treating torticollis at 2 mths. I called the Children's Hospital and they scheduled appt immediately , because they thought it's urgent and it was.

That's how I ended up going for PT in the Children's Hospital in downtown. After all that I just can't go back to my Pedi. If she doesn't know something she can at least do some research instead of trying to make me believe that it's not a big deal.I have to go now, because I'll be late, but PLEASE calm down. If you worry too much just talk to a doctor.

Talk to you soon .

Margarita

[Guest guest]

Very good point, that 1) development doesn't necesarily correlate with IQ.  The example from my kids would be my 10 yr old who walked at not even 9 mo old and was climbing long before that but it turns out, at 10 her IQ is only 109 (30+ pts lower than her sister who walked 2 months later) and actually she has special needs that were not apparant at that age (well looking back there are little things that were different but even having seen it with my own eyes they are so subtle I wouldnt recognize a special need again based on just those clues).  My 2nd to latest walker who did not walk until 11 months and was slow with every other motor skill is now 5 and I am guessing to be as smart as, if not smarter than, the one I talk about having a 140 iq above

 

the other good point is physical activity early does not correlate to how they are later.  Yes I have an early crawler/walker, etc who also ended up being able to play catch at 6 mo old (I have it on video to prove it lol) and kick a soccer ball before he was a year old.  But I also have a baby who walked at 10.5 months old and though she plays soccer b/c she enjoys it, I would say thats about as physical as she gets.  she doesnt really like any other sport and she is only good neough to be tolerable on a rec league.  I do not like to point out flaws so do not usually but everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, this daughters strength are not physical.  she is so graceful that she broke her arm falling off a tiny 12 " bike that had training wheels when she was 4 years old so not even new to such a tiny bike and it was nowhere near to tall for her b/c she was probably 45 " (NOT SURE EXACTLY, I GUESS WHATEVER HEIGHT IS 95% ON THE CHART B/c at 4 she had finally fallen onto the charts at 95% at 4, previously she was even above that line) at 4 years old so quite tall.  Then she broke her arm again at 8 falling over a school desk, the only child I have ever heard of who tripped over (and I literally mean over) a school desk.  just so my daughter doesnt sound completely dorky I will point out that she is 13 now, gifted at drawing, writing stories and poetry, a junior scholar and I wouldnt want to argue anything with her b/c she knows everything including all those uselessknowledge stuff 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Kazinsky <skazinsky@...> wrote:

 

Hey!

Please calm down. I've read articles like that and I've done my researches already.

First of all if it's event true( something that I don't really believe) - it's only true for babies that are not treated. You are treating your son - he already has the helmet, so there is no reason to worry.

May be your son can't do some stuff yet , but so what each baby is an individual and does everything in his own time. I am just looking at my older's son Baby Record Book. He was a very cautious baby. He wouldn't crawl, stand or walk before he's sure that he's safe. Dani is the opposite - he jumps from the bed  not worring that he'll hit his head, tries to stand and of course falls and bumps his head again. wasn't even trying before he was sure that he's stong enough. He started crawling when he was 11 months and he started walking when he was 14 months and he didn't have plagio.So plagio has nothing to do with it.

 He's defenitely not delayed now. He's the best tennis player in all Illinois for 8 year's old boys. He plays soccer, skies, he's so active. He's pretty good at school as well. So what if he has started walkeng late , he was just cautious. He wanted to do everything alone and he wasn't doing it untill he was ready to.

Seriously don't worry. I think Collin is alright.

As about your pediatrician - if you don't trust him/her - change him/her. That's what I am doing. Actually today is my first appointment with our new Pedi. I am really hoping that this one will be more educated. I've even prepared a little test for him and I'll be so disappointed if he doesn't pass it.I won't put Dani's helmet and I'll wait to see if he'll notice something.

My previous Pedi had no clue about the plagio. I noticed that there is something wrong with his head and started asking her. She then said it might be plagio, but to wait beceuase anyway nobody will do anything before the baby turns 6 mths. This aof course isn't true( because some people start treatment at 3-4 mths), but I had no idea at that time. Finally at 6mths she gave me a referral and when I went to see the orthotist he told me that my son might have torticollis and I should ask the Pedi about a referral for PT. The Pedi had no idea what torticollis is. She gave me a referral, though, for EI and I had to wait for 2 mths to be seen. I've asked my Pedi for another PT and she told me that I should wait  and not to worry because it's not urgent. That wasn't true either. People start treating torticollis at 2 mths. I called the Children's Hospital and they scheduled  appt immediately , because they thought it's urgent and it was. That's how I ended up going for PT in the Children's Hospital in downtown. After all that I just can't go back to my Pedi. If she doesn't know something she can at least do some research instead of trying to make me believe that it's not a big deal.

I have to go now, because I'll be late, but PLEASE calm down. If you worry too much just talk to a doctor.

Talk to you soon .

Margarita

-- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming!

[Guest guest]

I think that a lot of times when you see delays in children with plagio it is more because of having torticollis rather than the plagio since a lot of children have plagio because of torticollis.  It sounds like your child is still on target for milestones since the timing varies so much among children, plagio or not.  My non-plagio son didn't sit until 6.5 months and didn't crawl until 11 months whereas my plagio son was sitting at 5.5 months.  And, even though my plagio son walked the latest (15 months) he climbed and ran earlier than his brothers. 

 

Molly

Nicolas, 4 years old, STARband graduate

On 15 February 2010 22:02, mylameoww@... <mylameoww@...> wrote:

I just read this article, basically they are just saying there is a correlation between plagio and developmental delays.  I honestly don't think that having plagio/brachy CAUSE developmental delays, though I do think there may be some truth to a child PRONE to developmental delay may be more likely to result in plagio due to being less physically active.  (and not that that is at all the cause of all cases)  I just say this because I observed plagio in my 2nd son who slept constantly as an infant and has always been VERY content NOT to move and always hated tummy time (also has tort) and he is a little bit developmental delayed though still normal,  as opposed to my first child who rarely slept, and crawled and walked very early, overactive kid.  so I would not worry about your childs head causing any delays, and he sounds perfectly fine to me btw.

le

From: <jens879@...>Subject: Upset about article flat head syndrome and developemental delay

Plagiocephaly Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 2:31 PM

 

Has anyone else read this article:http://www.scientif icblogging. com/news_ articles/ infants_flat_ head_syndrome_ risk_development al_delay_ study

My son has brachy and got his DOC band a week ago; he's 10 months old. He is slightly behind on some physical stuff. He crawls backward and sideways and rolls all around, but not forward. He doesn't pull himself up. He sits very well, but doesn't get into sit from laying down. He does babble a lot and claps and waves and mocks us. I'm just hoping it's just a delay and he'll catch up with no lasting effects later. I just feel so bad. We tried to turn his head when he was younger, but he always ended up sleeping straight back on his head. I wish pediatrician' s educated people more about this from early on. My ped never seemed all that concern, just said it should start rounding out and then finally sent us at 9 months. Just venting I guess! Thanks for listening.

[Guest guest]

I'll add to the discussion that my 4 year old niece walked at 10 months, but is now severely delayed in all areas except gross motor (she is getting services). At 4, she is only speaking in single words and showing several signs of Autism.

My daughter (who has brachy and had very mild plagio but not tort), walked at 9 months, had 100 words by 16 months, talks in long sentences now, and was toilet trained at 22 months. She is a very motivated and go getter personality and that is what I attribute her early walking to.

She did all of this despite being diagnsed with failure to thrive at 12 months due to no weight gain in the previous 3 months. Her FTT had an organic cause and eliminating the foods she was allergic to and providing a good reflux medication allowed her to start gaining again.

Most early milestones are motor milestones and that's what we compare as parents (yes - I've gotten caught up in it too). It's unfortunate because almost all kids eventually walk and that's not a skill that distinguishes one adult from another. Yet, we compare and freak if our kids are a little on the late side with this. I honestly believe that it is probably more related to risk taking and persistence in the personality than it is to any kind of innate physical giftedness or intelligence.

Oh - and - an IQ of 109 is quite good. I'm betting it correlates to a percentile somewhere around 73. Most of the population isn't lucky enough to have an IQ that good. Don't let her sibling's giftedness overshadow this. I do IQ testing as part of my job and test kids that are having trouble in school. I almost never get to see an IQ in that range.

, mom to , 29 months

STARband grad May 2009

Chiro and CST

land

Re: Upset about article flat head syndrome and developemental delay

Very good point, that 1) development doesn't necesarily correlate with IQ. The example from my kids would be my 10 yr old who walked at not even 9 mo old and was climbing long before that but it turns out, at 10 her IQ is only 109 (30+ pts lower than her sister who walked 2 months later) and actually she has special needs that were not apparant at that age (well looking back there are little things that were different but even having seen it with my own eyes they are so subtle I wouldnt recognize a special need again based on just those clues). My 2nd to latest walker who did not walk until 11 months and was slow with every other motor skill is now 5 and I am guessing to be as smart as, if not smarter than, the one I talk about having a 140 iq above

the other good point is physical activity early does not correlate to how they are later. Yes I have an early crawler/walker, etc who also ended up being able to play catch at 6 mo old (I have it on video to prove it lol) and kick a soccer ball before he was a year old. But I also have a baby who walked at 10.5 months old and though she plays soccer b/c she enjoys it, I would say thats about as physical as she gets. she doesnt really like any other sport and she is only good neough to be tolerable on a rec league. I do not like to point out flaws so do not usually but everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, this daughters strength are not physical. she is so graceful that she broke her arm falling off a tiny 12" bike that had training wheels when she was 4 years old so not even new to such a tiny bike and it was nowhere near to tall for her b/c she was probably 45" (NOT SURE EXACTLY, I GUESS WHATEVER HEIGHT IS 95% ON THE CHART B/c at 4 she had finally fallen onto the charts at 95% at 4, previously she was even above that line) at 4 years old so quite tall. Then she broke her arm again at 8 falling over a school desk, the only child I have ever heard of who tripped over (and I literally mean over) a school desk. just so my daughter doesnt sound completely dorky I will point out that she is 13 now, gifted at drawing, writing stories and poetry, a junior scholar and I wouldnt want to argue anything with her b/c she knows everything including all those uselessknowledge stuff

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Kazinsky <skazinsky@...> wrote:

Hey!

Please calm down. I've read articles like that and I've done my researches already.

First of all if it's event true( something that I don't really believe) - it's only true for babies that are not treated. You are treating your son - he already has the helmet, so there is no reason to worry.

May be your son can't do some stuff yet , but so what each baby is an individual and does everything in his own time. I am just looking at my older's son Baby Record Book. He was a very cautious baby. He wouldn't crawl, stand or walk before he's sure that he's safe. Dani is the opposite - he jumps from the bed not worring that he'll hit his head, tries to stand and of course falls and bumps his head again. wasn't even trying before he was sure that he's stong enough. He started crawling when he was 11 months and he started walking when he was 14 months and he didn't have plagio.So plagio has nothing to do with it.

He's defenitely not delayed now. He's the best tennis player in all Illinois for 8 year's old boys. He plays soccer, skies, he's so active. He's pretty good at school as well. So what if he has started walkeng late , he was just cautious. He wanted to do everything alone and he wasn't doing it untill he was ready to.

Seriously don't worry. I think Collin is alright.

As about your pediatrician - if you don't trust him/her - change him/her. That's what I am doing. Actually today is my first appointment with our new Pedi. I am really hoping that this one will be more educated. I've even prepared a little test for him and I'll be so disappointed if he doesn't pass it.I won't put Dani's helmet and I'll wait to see if he'll notice something.

My previous Pedi had no clue about the plagio. I noticed that there is something wrong with his head and started asking her. She then said it might be plagio, but to wait beceuase anyway nobody will do anything before the baby turns 6 mths. This aof course isn't true( because some people start treatment at 3-4 mths), but I had no idea at that time. Finally at 6mths she gave me a referral and when I went to see the orthotist he told me that my son might have torticollis and I should ask the Pedi about a referral for PT. The Pedi had no idea what torticollis is. She gave me a referral, though, for EI and I had to wait for 2 mths to be seen. I've asked my Pedi for another PT and she told me that I should wait and not to worry because it's not urgent. That wasn't true either. People start treating torticollis at 2 mths. I called the Children's Hospital and they scheduled appt immediately , because they thought it's urgent and it was. That's how I ended up going for PT in the Children's Hospital in downtown. After all that I just can't go back to my Pedi. If she doesn't know something she can at least do some research instead of trying to make me believe that it's not a big deal.I have to go now, because I'll be late, but PLEASE calm down. If you worry too much just talk to a doctor.

Talk to you soon .

Margarita

-- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming!

[Guest guest]

Thanks, yes we are well aware of how well her IQ is, she is in the gifted program.  It isnt really her sister that overshadows it but her own problems (she has high functioning autism, childhood bipolar and adhd).  I mean it could be entirely possible her IQ is even better b/c she is not comfortable in those types of situations.  Plus she doesnt quite understand abstract ideas and therefore at times that effects her understanding of directions.  But the fact that I am constantly having to keep up on her medications, therapies and in the last month having to be called or emailed by the school (and yesterday I even had to go up) really kind of moves that furthur to the back of my concerns.  It can take her 2-3 hrs to do 1 worksheet for homework and I mean 2-3 hrs of WORK on my part, not b/c it is hard but b/c she hates to be alone in any room but is so easily distracted anywhere else.  And that is just after spending so long getting her supplies and self set up.  I am pretty sure it is her overly gifted sisters who end up suffering b/c they are able to do so much on there own that they end up having to b/c I have to be with her instead.  So it is a real blessing that my 13 yr old has an iq near 140.  Unfortunately I do not think we have been able to do as much as we should to really be able to encourage my 13 yr old.  Though last year we did start dishing out the mega $ to send her to TIP in the summer.  I just don't want her to not use her potential.  Whereas with my 10 yr old I really want her to get to the point where she can use her potential

On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 7:12 AM, <melanie.watson@...> wrote:

 

I'll add to the discussion that my 4 year old niece walked at 10 months, but is now severely delayed in all areas except gross motor (she is getting services). At 4, she is only speaking in single words and showing several signs of Autism.

 

My daughter (who has brachy and had very mild plagio but not tort), walked at 9 months, had 100 words by 16 months, talks in long sentences now, and was toilet trained at 22 months. She is a very motivated and go getter personality and that is what I attribute her early walking to.

 

She did all of this despite being diagnsed with failure to thrive at 12 months due to no weight gain in the previous 3 months. Her FTT had an organic cause and eliminating the foods she was allergic to and providing a good reflux medication allowed her to start gaining again.

Most early milestones are motor milestones and that's what we compare as parents (yes - I've gotten caught up in it too). It's unfortunate because almost all kids eventually walk and that's not a skill that distinguishes one adult from another. Yet, we compare and freak if our kids are a little on the late side with this. I honestly believe that it is probably more related to risk taking and persistence in the personality than it is to any kind of innate physical giftedness or intelligence.

 

Oh - and - an IQ of 109 is quite good. I'm betting it correlates to a percentile somewhere around 73. Most of the population isn't lucky enough to have an IQ that good. Don't let her sibling's giftedness overshadow this. I do IQ testing as part of my job and test kids that are having trouble in school. I almost never get to see an IQ in that range.

, mom to , 29 months

STARband grad May 2009

Chiro and CST

land

 

       

 

Re: Upset about article flat head syndrome and  developemental delay 

Very good point, that 1) development doesn't necesarily correlate with IQ.  The example from my kids would be my 10 yr old who walked at not even 9 mo old and was climbing long before that but it turns out, at 10 her IQ is only 109 (30+ pts lower than her sister who walked 2 months later) and actually she has special needs that were not apparant at that age (well looking back there are little things that were different but even having seen it with my own eyes they are so subtle I wouldnt recognize a special need again based on just those clues).  My 2nd to latest walker who did not walk until 11 months and was slow with every other motor skill is now 5 and I am guessing to be as smart as, if not smarter than, the one I talk about having a 140 iq above

 

the other good point is physical activity early does not correlate to how they are later.  Yes I have an early crawler/walker, etc who also ended up being able to play catch at 6 mo old (I have it on video to prove it lol) and kick a soccer ball before he was a year old.  But I also have a baby who walked at 10.5 months old and though she plays soccer b/c she enjoys it, I would say thats about as physical as she gets.  she doesnt really like any other sport and she is only good neough to be tolerable on a rec league.  I do not like to point out flaws so do not usually but everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, this daughters strength are not physical.  she is so graceful that she broke her arm falling off a tiny 12 " bike that had training wheels when she was 4 years old so not even new to such a tiny bike and it was nowhere near to tall for her b/c she was probably 45 " (NOT SURE EXACTLY, I GUESS WHATEVER HEIGHT IS 95% ON THE CHART B/c at 4 she had finally fallen onto the charts at 95% at 4, previously she was even above that line) at 4 years old so quite tall.  Then she broke her arm again at 8 falling over a school desk, the only child I have ever heard of who tripped over (and I literally mean over) a school desk.  just so my daughter doesnt sound completely dorky I will point out that she is 13 now, gifted at drawing, writing stories and poetry, a junior scholar and I wouldnt want to argue anything with her b/c she knows everything including all those uselessknowledge stuff 

On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:38 AM, Kazinsky <skazinsky@...> wrote:

 

Hey!

Please calm down. I've read articles like that and I've done my researches already.

First of all if it's event true( something that I don't really believe) - it's only true for babies that are not treated. You are treating your son - he already has the helmet, so there is no reason to worry.

May be your son can't do some stuff yet , but so what each baby is an individual and does everything in his own time. I am just looking at my older's son Baby Record Book. He was a very cautious baby. He wouldn't crawl, stand or walk before he's sure that he's safe. Dani is the opposite - he jumps from the bed  not worring that he'll hit his head, tries to stand and of course falls and bumps his head again. wasn't even trying before he was sure that he's stong enough. He started crawling when he was 11 months and he started walking when he was 14 months and he didn't have plagio.So plagio has nothing to do with it.

 He's defenitely not delayed now. He's the best tennis player in all Illinois for 8 year's old boys. He plays soccer, skies, he's so active. He's pretty good at school as well. So what if he has started walkeng late , he was just cautious. He wanted to do everything alone and he wasn't doing it untill he was ready to.

Seriously don't worry. I think Collin is alright.

As about your pediatrician - if you don't trust him/her - change him/her. That's what I am doing. Actually today is my first appointment with our new Pedi. I am really hoping that this one will be more educated. I've even prepared a little test for him and I'll be so disappointed if he doesn't pass it.I won't put Dani's helmet and I'll wait to see if he'll notice something.

My previous Pedi had no clue about the plagio. I noticed that there is something wrong with his head and started asking her. She then said it might be plagio, but to wait beceuase anyway nobody will do anything before the baby turns 6 mths. This aof course isn't true( because some people start treatment at 3-4 mths), but I had no idea at that time. Finally at 6mths she gave me a referral and when I went to see the orthotist he told me that my son might have torticollis and I should ask the Pedi about a referral for PT. The Pedi had no idea what torticollis is. She gave me a referral, though, for EI and I had to wait for 2 mths to be seen. I've asked my Pedi for another PT and she told me that I should wait  and not to worry because it's not urgent. That wasn't true either. People start treating torticollis at 2 mths. I called the Children's Hospital and they scheduled  appt immediately , because they thought it's urgent and it was. That's how I ended up going for PT in the Children's Hospital in downtown. After all that I just can't go back to my Pedi. If she doesn't know something she can at least do some research instead of trying to make me believe that it's not a big deal.

I have to go now, because I'll be late, but PLEASE calm down. If you worry too much just talk to a doctor.

Talk to you soon .

Margarita

-- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming!

-- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming!