Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 In a message dated 1/18/04 4:45:14 AM Central Standard Time, fbayuk@... writes: > I ate 12 ounces, by weight, of chili and cheese. ---------------- One of the continuing misconceptions of people who have had WLS is that the food that goes into the pouch should be measured by WEIGHT. That is not how you do it. The pouch is a size or volume measurement -- FLUID ounces, not WEIGHT ounces. Twelve ounces of cotton would never fit into your pouch -- put twelve ounces of lead would fit -- plus room for more. Also, it is the measurement after chewing that counts. I just spoke yesterday with a member of my support group that was in panic over the fact that she could eat any entire bag of microwave popcorn. I told her to calm down and think about what that bag of popcorn looked like before it was popped... the volume of kernels and fat in the bag is relatively small compared to the popped volume. As soon as the popcorn hits the moisture of the mouth and pouch, it " melts " back to its unpopped volume. I know that there are some surgeons who instruct their patients to WEIGH the meat they eat -- well, they are just WRONG -- the physical laws of science do NOT support that method of determining what will comfortably fit into the pouch. When the surgeon creates the pouch, and tells you they made a two ounce pouch, they determined that by filling it with fluid in the operating room -- they used a volume measurement. Two ounces is one-fourth of a measuring cup or 4 Tablespoons in size. Another factor that plays into all of this is the consistency of the food eaten. If the food either begins in a " liquidy " state (like soups) or turns into a " liquidy " mass when chewed (like mashed potatoes) then a much larger volume can be eaten, as the food will pass through the stoma more quickly. During the 15 minutes that you take to eat the liquidy food, the first several bites have left the pouch -- leaving room for more. If you ate slowly enough, and for long enough, you could eat HUGE quantities of these types of foods. This a one of those topics that really sets me off -- because so many doctors do not adequately explain it to their patients -- or do not understand it themselves -- makes me wonder about their grades in science class! Beth Houston, TX VBG - Dr. Srungaram 05/31/00 - 314 lbs. 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty 11/29/02 - 160 lbs. 5'10 " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Thanks Beth Fay Bayuk **300/171 10/23/01 Dr. Open RNY 150 cm Click for My Profile http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2004 Report Share Posted January 18, 2004 Fay, When I was able to do this a couple of times a day is when I discovered that I had an SLD but that's me. Lori Owen - Denton, Texas SRVG 7/16/01 Dr. Ritter/Dr. Bryce 479/356/hoping for close to 200 On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 06:42:13 EST fbayuk@... writes: > In a message dated 1/18/2004 6:37:18 AM Eastern Standard Time, > jholdaway@... writes: > It took me nearly 2 > hours to eat it, > ================================= > It took me 20 minutes to eat the chili. > > > Fay Bayuk > **300/171 > 10/23/01 > Dr. > Open RNY 150 cm > Click for My Profile > http://obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=Bayuk951061008 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 In a message dated 01/18/2004 8:45:25 AM Pacific Standard Time, BethVBG@... writes: This a one of those topics that really sets me off -- because so many doctors do not adequately explain it to their patients -- or do not understand it themselves -- makes me wonder about their grades in science class! Beth Houston, TX VBG - Dr. Srungaram 05/31/00 - 314 lbs. 11/01/02 - Abdominoplasty 11/29/02 - 160 lbs. 5'10 " First off Beth, let me congratulate you on your great loss! Woohoo!! Second, the way your surgeon explains food in the pouch is quite similar to how my surgeon explains it as well. My doc also has explained to us that as the pouch learns how to milk the food into the attached intestine, and becomes more efficient, that the food does not simply stay in the pouch like it did right after surgery, when the pouch is flaccid. That is for those of us who have had the RnY. Hugs, Katt Morales Surgery Date: 01/07/2003 Dr. Terry Sanderfer - Open RNY Distal Beginning Weight: 300 Current Weight: 148 Weight Lost: 152 Goal Weight: 135-144 We contend that for a nation to try to tax itself into prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle. --Winston Churchill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 , Sounds like your doing so well, congratulations. Keep up the good work. Laurette 4/23/04 open rny 309/290/240/150 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2004 Report Share Posted August 17, 2004 I thought I'd add my thoughts on food also. I'm almost 4 weeks out, and am adding food slowly. I started with pureed, did some canned soup, like beef vegetable, and tolerated that well, added cottage cheese, and eggs. Never had a problem, so I progressed to chicken, but I did cook it very well, and pureed it with some gravy from cooking, and ate it over mashed potatoes. I thought I was in heaven it was so good. I thought pureed would be awful, but when you use your own food, it tastes just like it always does, with out having to chew! The first unpureed food I tried was salmon on the grill and fresh green beans, and I had no problem. Now I have tried chicken, beef, pork and fish, and not had a problem with any, but I cook it really well, and use some sauce to help keep it moist. I eat very slow and chew well. Yesterday I tried fresh pears, and they were wonderful. I am still taking 2 protein drinks a day to make sure I get enough, but the eating has gone well. I have never had a feeling of food getting " stuck " , except once when I just ate too much. Now I stop before I am full or satisfied, and about 1/2 hour later I feel full and satisfied. I think I just had all of my problems during surgery and immediately post op. Also, I had about 40 staples, and they really didn't hurt coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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