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I have heard that a lot, we were already in a convertible b/c it was

more comfy but I did have to remov e the head support. My son was

older though, 9 month and we had a docband (slightly smaller)

On 2/12/10, <cindy_scott_130@...> wrote:

> A friend of mine had a son with a DOCband and she said that he didn't fit

> well in his infant carrier carseat with it.. that she had to move him to a

> convertible seat. Have others had that experience?

>

> We'll likely be getting a Hanger band, if that's relevant. My son is just

> turning 6 months old and he fits fine in his carrier. And since I have a

> 2-year-old, getting around with him in the carrier is just simpler for me

> right now.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Son, , 6 months old with torticollis and plagiocephaly

>

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my son got his Hanger band at 6 mos and he still fits in his infant seat fine at 8 mos. we did have to remove the head support that came with his seat though. I am moving him to a convetable very soon though just because he is too heavy to carry in the infant one anyway, and I think he will be a bit more comfy. leFrom: <cindy_scott_130@...>Subject: bands and carseats?Plagiocephaly Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 11:02 AM

A friend of mine had a son with a DOCband and she said that he didn't fit well in his infant carrier carseat with it.. that she had to move him to a convertible seat. Have others had that experience? We'll likely be getting a Hanger band, if that's relevant. My son is just turning 6 months old and he fits fine in his carrier. And since I have a 2-year-old, getting around with him in the carrier is just simpler for me right now.Thanks,Son, , 6 months old with torticollis and plagiocephaly

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My daughter got her band at 5 mo and at the same time I got a new carseat (more

or less by chance). At 4 mo she started crying in the car, and I just thought it

was the car, but when I changed her to a convertible carseat she was fine. My

daughter was on the big side, and I don't think the band would have fit well in

the car seat. I would probably try the infant carrier if it is easier for you,

but keep in mind you may want to buy a convertible seat on short notice if he

isn't comfortable. You can start your research about which one you want to buy.

-christine

sydney, 4 yrs, starband grad

>

>

>

>

> From: <cindy_scott_130@...>

> Subject: bands and carseats?

> Plagiocephaly

> Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 11:02 AM

>

> A friend of mine had a son with a DOCband and she said that he didn't

fit well in his infant carrier carseat with it.. that she had to move him to a

convertible seat.  Have others had that experience? 

>

> We'll likely be getting a Hanger band, if that's relevant.  My son is just

turning 6 months old and he fits fine in his carrier.  And since I have a

2-year-old, getting around with him in the carrier is just simpler for me right

now.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Son, , 6 months old with torticollis and plagiocephaly

>

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My DD (6 months) is in a Hanger band and she still fits just fine in her infant

carseat ( I did take out the extra head support, but it was long past time to do

that anyway!!). I do have trouble with it " fitting " in her highchair... so we

either use that as our " free time " during the day or she seats in a hook on seat

at the counter.

> >

> > From: <cindy_scott_130@>

> > Subject: bands and carseats?

> > Plagiocephaly

> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 11:02 AM

> >

> > A friend of mine had a son with a DOCband and she said that he didn't

fit well in his infant carrier carseat with it.. that she had to move him to a

convertible seat.  Have others had that experience? 

> >

> > We'll likely be getting a Hanger band, if that's relevant.  My son is just

turning 6 months old and he fits fine in his carrier.  And since I have a

2-year-old, getting around with him in the carrier is just simpler for me right

now.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Son, , 6 months old with torticollis and plagiocephaly

> >

>

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Thanks, everyone for the advice on car seats! We do have a convertible for him to use if he doesn't fit in the carrier, but it would just be more convenient for me to leave him in the carrier since I'm always out and about with 2 little ones. I'm glad to hear that he won't necessarily be too big for it now.That's interesting about the highchair. Our highchair is pretty big (FP Rainforest) so I would think it would be fine but that's something to keep in mind.Thanks,From: wfumom99 <wfumom99@...>Plagiocephaly Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 1:51:21 PMSubject: Re: bands and carseats?

My DD (6 months) is in a Hanger band and she still fits just fine in her infant carseat ( I did take out the extra head support, but it was long past time to do that anyway!!). I do have trouble with it "fitting" in her highchair... so we either use that as our "free time" during the day or she seats in a hook on seat at the counter.

> >

> > From: <cindy_scott_ 130@>

> > Subject: bands and carseats?

> > Plagiocephaly

> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 11:02 AM

> >

> > A friend of mine had a son with a DOCband and she said that he didn't fit well in his infant carrier carseat with it.. that she had to move him to a convertible seat. Have others had that experience?Â

> >

> > We'll likely be getting a Hanger band, if that's relevant. My son is just turning 6 months old and he fits fine in his carrier. And since I have a 2-year-old, getting around with him in the carrier is just simpler for me right now.

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Son, , 6 months old with torticollis and plagiocephaly

> >

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Do you leave him in the carseat now? Can he sit up yet? If he can

sit up I would seriously consider using an upright stroller instead.

If he can't or he sleeps mostly I would only leave him in for quick

runs and get a sling, ergo or something for longer trips. You aren't

doing his plagio any favors by leaving him in the carseat (and yes I

understand the convenience as I have 5 kids, 3 and 4 were only 20

month and 3 when the baby was born and I am due this august). Yes the

band helps fix the head but it is never too early to work on the head,

the better you start the better your results could be. So you really

want to keep them off their head when possible. We repositioned for 5

months before we did the band and despite severe measurements 2 month

in (to repositioning) we were able to correct enough in 3 month to not

even need a 2nd band and my son was even older, 9 month when he got

his helmet.

As for the high chair we never had a problem, but again, he was

sitting up by the time we got the band. We had a baby trend but I

know he would not have had a problem with what we have now (a

restaurant style high chair, they are only like 35 on amazon and take

up so much less room, I love it for older babies if you can't afford a

trip trap)

On 2/14/10, <cindy_scott_130@...> wrote:

> Thanks, everyone for the advice on car seats! We do have a convertible for

> him to use if he doesn't fit in the carrier, but it would just be more

> convenient for me to leave him in the carrier since I'm always out and about

> with 2 little ones. I'm glad to hear that he won't necessarily be too big

> for it now.

>

> That's interesting about the highchair. Our highchair is pretty big (FP

> Rainforest) so I would think it would be fine but that's something to keep

> in mind.

>

> Thanks,

>

> From: wfumom99 <wfumom99@...>

> Plagiocephaly

> Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 1:51:21 PM

> Subject: Re: bands and carseats?

>

>

>

> My DD (6 months) is in a Hanger band and she still fits just fine in her

> infant carseat ( I did take out the extra head support, but it was long past

> time to do that anyway!!). I do have trouble with it " fitting " in her

> highchair... so we either use that as our " free time " during the day or she

> seats in a hook on seat at the counter.

>

>

>> >

>> > From: <cindy_scott_ 130@>

>> > Subject: bands and carseats?

>> > Plagiocephaly

>> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 11:02 AM

>> >

>> > A friend of mine had a son with a DOCband and she said that he

>> > didn't fit well in his infant carrier carseat with it.. that she had to

>> > move him to a convertible seat. Have others had that experience?Â

>> >

>> > We'll likely be getting a Hanger band, if that's relevant. My son is

>> > just turning 6 months old and he fits fine in his carrier. And since I

>> > have a 2-year-old, getting around with him in the carrier is just

>> > simpler for me right now.

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> >

>> > Son, , 6 months old with torticollis and plagiocephaly

>> >

>>

>

>

>

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I do leave him in his carseat for quick errands into stores, the library, etc. I don't leave him in his carseat if we're going to be somewhere for a while. For example, if we go visit a friend, he comes out of his carseat as soon as we get there. He doesn't really like to hang out in his carseat. But even at a friend's house, I like the convenience of being able to buckle him in indoors since it's wintertime.And no, he's not fully sitting up yet. He's almost there... probably by about 7 months he'll be a good sitter. So I don't know if he could safely sit in a store cart seat quite yet. And also my daughter (age 23 months) is still learning to behave while walking beside me. I'm working hard with her so that I can put him in carts and let her walk

beside me.You do make a good point about the repositioning. If I took him out of the carrier, it would force me to do something else, and be one less time he was on his back. Maybe I need to just suck it up and do it. I do have an Ergo carrier, which he and I both enjoy... so that could solve a lot of problems.I'm very new to this stuff and it's all overwhelming. We haven't gotten an official diagnosis yet... he goes to the pediatrician on Wednesday and we have a consultation with an orthotist on Friday. I wish my ped had said something when he was younger... I didn't realize how bad his head was until a couple weeks ago and then I started reading stuff and looking at photos on the web and realized just how bad his head is. If my ped had told me to never leave him on his back when he was age 4 months, could we have prevented things? I guess I can't worry about the past... I can only do my best

now.And let me say that I am thoroughly impressed if you manage to get out of the house alone with all of your kids. It's been so hard with 2 under 2 and I don't know how moms of more handle it.From: Durocher <funwith4@...>Plagiocephaly Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:32:57 AMSubject: Re: bands and carseats?

Do you leave him in the carseat now? Can he sit up yet? If he can

sit up I would seriously consider using an upright stroller instead.

If he can't or he sleeps mostly I would only leave him in for quick

runs and get a sling, ergo or something for longer trips. You aren't

doing his plagio any favors by leaving him in the carseat (and yes I

understand the convenience as I have 5 kids, 3 and 4 were only 20

month and 3 when the baby was born and I am due this august). Yes the

band helps fix the head but it is never too early to work on the head,

the better you start the better your results could be. So you really

want to keep them off their head when possible. We repositioned for 5

months before we did the band and despite severe measurements 2 month

in (to repositioning) we were able to correct enough in 3 month to not

even need a 2nd band and my son was even older, 9 month when he got

his helmet.

As for the high chair we never had a problem, but again, he was

sitting up by the time we got the band. We had a baby trend but I

know he would not have had a problem with what we have now (a

restaurant style high chair, they are only like 35 on amazon and take

up so much less room, I love it for older babies if you can't afford a

trip trap)

On 2/14/10, <cindy_scott_ 130 (DOT) com> wrote:

> Thanks, everyone for the advice on car seats! We do have a convertible for

> him to use if he doesn't fit in the carrier, but it would just be more

> convenient for me to leave him in the carrier since I'm always out and about

> with 2 little ones. I'm glad to hear that he won't necessarily be too big

> for it now.

>

> That's interesting about the highchair. Our highchair is pretty big (FP

> Rainforest) so I would think it would be fine but that's something to keep

> in mind.

>

> Thanks,

>

> From: wfumom99 <wfumom99 (DOT) com>

> Plagiocephaly

> Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 1:51:21 PM

> Subject: Re: bands and carseats?

>

>

>

> My DD (6 months) is in a Hanger band and she still fits just fine in her

> infant carseat ( I did take out the extra head support, but it was long past

> time to do that anyway!!). I do have trouble with it "fitting" in her

> highchair... so we either use that as our "free time" during the day or she

> seats in a hook on seat at the counter.

>

>

>> >

>> > From: <cindy_scott_ 130@>

>> > Subject: bands and carseats?

>> > Plagiocephaly

>> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 11:02 AM

>> >

>> > A friend of mine had a son with a DOCband and she said that he

>> > didn't fit well in his infant carrier carseat with it.. that she had to

>> > move him to a convertible seat. Have others had that experience?Â

>> >

>> > We'll likely be getting a Hanger band, if that's relevant. My son is

>> > just turning 6 months old and he fits fine in his carrier. And since I

>> > have a 2-year-old, getting around with him in the carrier is just

>> > simpler for me right now.

>> >

>> > Thanks,

>> >

>> > Son, , 6 months old with torticollis and plagiocephaly

>> >

>>

>

>

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I really wish i had known more about plagio too, my sons probably could not have been prevented b/c he had it from in utero, probably b/c he dropped a month early and was born a week later so 5 or more weeks way down in my pelvis for a big boy (he was 9 lbs 4 oz) i guess put pressure on his head.  But even when I realised it was not molding that would go away I started looking and the 1st and only thing i found was crniosynosis and I about had a heart attack worrying about that until the ped finally dx him plagiocephaly at 5 mo old.

 

I was actually thinking about the sitting up more along the lines of if hed be able to sit upright in a high chair if you were out to eat (the one place I really have never been able to give up the infant carseat) or in the stroller instead.  Once i realised how important it was to be off his head though I resorted to taking the bumbo with me to restaurants to use instead of the carseat.  though he seemed to be able to be a lot more upright in the stroller before he could officially sit so I sometimes use dthat but it is so bulky (and I have a very small, lightweight stroller) for som erestaurants.

 

My 1st 2 children are 3 yrs 7 mo apart and my 2nd and 3rd are 5 yrs 1 week apart.  so when i found out I was pregnant right after my dds 1st bday I about flipped, I was certain there was NOOOO way I could handle that close a gap, that Id be completely insane.  i guess the reality was i couldnt continue my lifestyle the way it was and handle that.  once i adjusted my expectations things changed.  with 2 under 2 I could still do the mall but not long leisurely trips anymore.  I could still go out to eat but I have to adjust where I could go by myself.  and once I had 3 under 4 a trip to the mall was done more when it was a necesity lol, no more fun trips.  and even necesity I would try to plan for weekends and leave some with dh.

 

I do not think i could have survived without my slings and ergo.  up until they were about a year I wore them in an ergo instead of even attempting the cart.  even when you can get the 2 yr old to walk and listen well there are just so many places it isnt worth it, it would take me so long to shop if I let everyone walk.  Up until the last 6 mo my son (now 3) rode in th ecart or stroller and the baby was in the ergo.  If she wasnt in the ergo I would put her and my son in the oduble stroller (phil an dted so not double wide and can be steared with 1 had even with 2 kids in it), push it and put my items in the basket or pull a cart with the other hand.  but having a 13 and 10 yr old I can also have them push a cart so I have 2 if i take everyone (we are a public spectacle when we do so i dont usually).  even now at 3 there are times my son is just too easily distracted (and thats very age appropriate) so he ends up in the back of th ecart halfway through the store ( I know longer keep the ergo with me b/c I havent been wearing much in my pregnancy and my dd has go go gadget octopus arms and grabs everything from my back)

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 8:47 AM, <cindy_scott_130@...> wrote:

 

I do leave him in his carseat for quick errands into stores, the library, etc.  I don't leave him in his carseat if we're going to be somewhere for a while.  For example, if we go visit a friend, he comes out of his carseat as soon as we get there.  He doesn't really like to hang out in his carseat.  But even at a friend's house, I like the convenience of being able to buckle him in indoors since it's wintertime.

And no, he's not fully sitting up yet.  He's almost there... probably by about 7 months he'll be a good sitter.  So I don't know if he could safely sit in a store cart seat quite yet.  And also my daughter (age 23 months) is still learning to behave while walking beside me.  I'm working hard with her so that I can put him in carts and let her walk beside me.

You do make a good point about the repositioning.  If I took him out of the carrier, it would force me to do something else, and be one less time he was on his back.  Maybe I need to just suck it up and do it.  I do have an Ergo carrier, which he and I both enjoy... so that could solve a lot of problems.

I'm very new to this stuff and it's all overwhelming.  We haven't gotten an official diagnosis yet... he goes to the pediatrician on Wednesday and we have a consultation with an orthotist on Friday.  I wish my ped had said something when he was younger... I didn't realize how bad his head was until a couple weeks ago and then I started reading stuff and looking at photos on the web and realized just how bad his head is.  If my ped had told me to never leave him on his back when he was age 4 months, could we have prevented things?  I guess I can't worry about the past... I can only do my best now.

And let me say that I am thoroughly impressed if you manage to get out of the house alone with all of your kids.  It's been so hard with 2 under 2 and I don't know how moms of more handle it.

From: Durocher <funwith4@...>Plagiocephaly

Sent: Mon, February 15, 2010 7:32:57 AM

Subject: Re: bands and carseats?

 

Do you leave him in the carseat now? Can he sit up yet? If he cansit up I would seriously consider using an upright stroller instead.If he can't or he sleeps mostly I would only leave him in for quickruns and get a sling, ergo or something for longer trips. You aren't

doing his plagio any favors by leaving him in the carseat (and yes Iunderstand the convenience as I have 5 kids, 3 and 4 were only 20month and 3 when the baby was born and I am due this august). Yes theband helps fix the head but it is never too early to work on the head,

the better you start the better your results could be. So you reallywant to keep them off their head when possible. We repositioned for 5months before we did the band and despite severe measurements 2 monthin (to repositioning) we were able to correct enough in 3 month to not

even need a 2nd band and my son was even older, 9 month when he gothis helmet.As for the high chair we never had a problem, but again, he wassitting up by the time we got the band. We had a baby trend but I

know he would not have had a problem with what we have now (arestaurant style high chair, they are only like 35 on amazon and takeup so much less room, I love it for older babies if you can't afford atrip trap)

On 2/14/10, <cindy_scott_ 130 (DOT) com> wrote:> Thanks, everyone for the advice on car seats! We do have a convertible for

> him to use if he doesn't fit in the carrier, but it would just be more> convenient for me to leave him in the carrier since I'm always out and about> with 2 little ones. I'm glad to hear that he won't necessarily be too big

> for it now.>> That's interesting about the highchair. Our highchair is pretty big (FP> Rainforest) so I would think it would be fine but that's something to keep> in mind.>

> Thanks,> > From: wfumom99 <wfumom99 (DOT) com>> Plagiocephaly

> Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 1:51:21 PM> Subject: Re: bands and carseats?>>>> My DD (6 months) is in a Hanger band and she still fits just fine in her> infant carseat ( I did take out the extra head support, but it was long past

> time to do that anyway!!). I do have trouble with it " fitting " in her> highchair... so we either use that as our " free time " during the day or she> seats in a hook on seat at the counter.

>>

>> >>> > From: <cindy_scott_ 130@>>> > Subject: bands and carseats?>> > Plagiocephaly>> > Date: Friday, February 12, 2010, 11:02 AM

>> >>> > A friend of mine had a son with a DOCband and she said that he>> > didn't fit well in his infant carrier carseat with it.. that she had to>> > move him to a convertible seat. Have others had that experience?Â

>> >>> > We'll likely be getting a Hanger band, if that's relevant. My son is>> > just turning 6 months old and he fits fine in his carrier. And since I>> > have a 2-year-old, getting around with him in the carrier is just

>> > simpler for me right now.>> >>> > Thanks,>> > >> > Son, , 6 months old with torticollis and plagiocephaly>> >>>>

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I only have one child (now 4) and no excuse for keeping her in her carseat or

bouncer more than I could have - but I really didn't know it could cause

problems with her head. I wouldn't say I did it more than normal, but her head

grew very quickly, so it was the wrong time for her to be putting pressure on it

(we even had an ultrasound of her head to rule out hydrocephalus when she was 6

mo). rs such are ergo are definitely better for their heads! Also I

recommend the bumbo chair. It gives babies extra support before they can sit on

their own. I think some therapists don't recommend it for babies with tort, but

for non-tort babies it can be very good.

Once the baby is in a band/helmet the carseat won't be an issue, but if you can

reduce the time he is in it now, it might help.

-christine

sydney, 4 yrs, starband grad

>

> I do leave him in his carseat for quick errands into stores, the library, etc.

I don't leave him in his carseat if we're going to be somewhere for a while.

For example, if we go visit a friend, he comes out of his carseat as soon as we

get there. He doesn't really like to hang out in his carseat. But even at a

friend's house, I like the convenience of being able to buckle him in indoors

since it's wintertime.

>

> And no, he's not fully sitting up yet. He's almost there... probably by about

7 months he'll be a good sitter. So I don't know if he could safely sit in a

store cart seat quite yet. And also my daughter (age 23 months) is still

learning to behave while walking beside me. I'm working hard with her so that I

can put him in carts and let her walk beside me.

>

> You do make a good point about the repositioning. If I took him out of the

carrier, it would force me to do something else, and be one less time he was on

his back. Maybe I need to just suck it up and do it. I do have an Ergo

carrier, which he and I both enjoy... so that could solve a lot of problems.

>

> I'm very new to this stuff and it's all overwhelming. We haven't gotten an

official diagnosis yet... he goes to the pediatrician on Wednesday and we have a

consultation with an orthotist on Friday. I wish my ped had said something when

he was younger... I didn't realize how bad his head was until a couple weeks ago

and then I started reading stuff and looking at photos on the web and realized

just how bad his head is. If my ped had told me to never leave him on his back

when he was age 4 months, could we have prevented things? I guess I can't worry

about the past... I can only do my best now.

>

> And let me say that I am thoroughly impressed if you manage to get out of the

house alone with all of your kids. It's been so hard with 2 under 2 and I don't

know how moms of more handle it.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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see for me i knew there was a flat head type of syndrome b/c it was my 4th but I had misconceptions.  i thought it was the back of their head only and also thought that it was mainly babies who were left so much it bordered on neglect, like sat in the things all day long.  I didn't realise it can be just bad timing or even in utero so i just never thought thats what my son could have b/c he never used any of that stuff.  we never took the infant carseat out of the car and at 6 wks we even moved him to a convertible for more comfort and the boy lived in the sling so i thought he was probably the least at risk of anyone to have it.  when we 1st noticed it he was so young I thought it was still molding from birth, it was only after it didnt even start to improve that I started asking the doctor (so not until he was 2 months old)

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:01 PM, christineashok <christineashok@...> wrote:

 

I only have one child (now 4) and no excuse for keeping her in her carseat or bouncer more than I could have - but I really didn't know it could cause problems with her head. I wouldn't say I did it more than normal, but her head grew very quickly, so it was the wrong time for her to be putting pressure on it (we even had an ultrasound of her head to rule out hydrocephalus when she was 6 mo). rs such are ergo are definitely better for their heads! Also I recommend the bumbo chair. It gives babies extra support before they can sit on their own. I think some therapists don't recommend it for babies with tort, but for non-tort babies it can be very good.

Once the baby is in a band/helmet the carseat won't be an issue, but if you can reduce the time he is in it now, it might help. -christinesydney, 4 yrs, starband grad

>> I do leave him in his carseat for quick errands into stores, the library, etc. I don't leave him in his carseat if we're going to be somewhere for a while. For example, if we go visit a friend, he comes out of his carseat as soon as we get there. He doesn't really like to hang out in his carseat. But even at a friend's house, I like the convenience of being able to buckle him in indoors since it's wintertime.

> > And no, he's not fully sitting up yet. He's almost there... probably by about 7 months he'll be a good sitter. So I don't know if he could safely sit in a store cart seat quite yet. And also my daughter (age 23 months) is still learning to behave while walking beside me. I'm working hard with her so that I can put him in carts and let her walk beside me.

> > You do make a good point about the repositioning. If I took him out of the carrier, it would force me to do something else, and be one less time he was on his back. Maybe I need to just suck it up and do it. I do have an Ergo carrier, which he and I both enjoy... so that could solve a lot of problems.

> > I'm very new to this stuff and it's all overwhelming. We haven't gotten an official diagnosis yet... he goes to the pediatrician on Wednesday and we have a consultation with an orthotist on Friday. I wish my ped had said something when he was younger... I didn't realize how bad his head was until a couple weeks ago and then I started reading stuff and looking at photos on the web and realized just how bad his head is. If my ped had told me to never leave him on his back when he was age 4 months, could we have prevented things? I guess I can't worry about the past... I can only do my best now.

> > And let me say that I am thoroughly impressed if you manage to get out of the house alone with all of your kids. It's been so hard with 2 under 2 and I don't know how moms of more handle it.>

> > > > >

-- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming!

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Our situation was that we realized he had torticollis at about 2 months old and we saw the pediatrician about it. We did the exercises to work on his neck muscles and she gave us positioning information, but I thought it was all just to help his neck... so I put interesting toys on his bad side, etc, to get him to turn the way that was difficult for him. Well, by 4 months old, his neck had normal range of motion and the doctor said everything was fine. I did notice that his head had become a bit misshapen because of laying in the same direction all the time, but I figured it would work itself out as he got older. The doctor never really said anything about his head shape. My daughter had a bit of a flat head when she was little and it was fine soon after she started sitting and

crawling more... so I didn't really think much of my son's head. Well, now I realize that his is not just flat, it's very crooked. And every time he lays down, he's encouraging it to stay crooked. I just wonder if I could have helped if I had realized the problem...From: Durocher <funwith4@...>Plagiocephaly Sent: Tue, February 16, 2010 8:00:40 AMSubject: Re: bands and carseats?

see for me i knew there was a flat head type of syndrome b/c it was my 4th but I had misconceptions. i thought it was the back of their head only and also thought that it was mainly babies who were left so much it bordered on neglect, like sat in the things all day long. I didn't realise it can be just bad timing or even in utero so i just never thought thats what my son could have b/c he never used any of that stuff. we never took the infant carseat out of the car and at 6 wks we even moved him to a convertible for more comfort and the boy lived in the sling so i thought he was probably the least at risk of anyone to have it. when we 1st noticed it he was so young I thought it was still molding from birth, it was only after it didnt even start to improve that I started asking the doctor (so not until he was 2 months old)

On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:01 PM, christineashok <christineashok> wrote:

I only have one child (now 4) and no excuse for keeping her in her carseat or bouncer more than I could have - but I really didn't know it could cause problems with her head. I wouldn't say I did it more than normal, but her head grew very quickly, so it was the wrong time for her to be putting pressure on it (we even had an ultrasound of her head to rule out hydrocephalus when she was 6 mo). rs such are ergo are definitely better for their heads! Also I recommend the bumbo chair. It gives babies extra support before they can sit on their own. I think some therapists don't recommend it for babies with tort, but for non-tort babies it can be very good.

Once the baby is in a band/helmet the carseat won't be an issue, but if you can reduce the time he is in it now, it might help. -christinesydney, 4 yrs, starband grad

>> I do leave him in his carseat for quick errands into stores, the library, etc. I don't leave him in his carseat if we're going to be somewhere for a while. For example, if we go visit a friend, he comes out of his carseat as soon as we get there. He doesn't really like to hang out in his carseat. But even at a friend's house, I like the convenience of being able to buckle him in indoors since it's wintertime.

> > And no, he's not fully sitting up yet. He's almost there... probably by about 7 months he'll be a good sitter. So I don't know if he could safely sit in a store cart seat quite yet. And also my daughter (age 23 months) is still learning to behave while walking beside me. I'm working hard with her so that I can put him in carts and let her walk beside me.

> > You do make a good point about the repositioning. If I took him out of the carrier, it would force me to do something else, and be one less time he was on his back. Maybe I need to just suck it up and do it. I do have an Ergo carrier, which he and I both enjoy... so that could solve a lot of problems.

> > I'm very new to this stuff and it's all overwhelming. We haven't gotten an official diagnosis yet... he goes to the pediatrician on Wednesday and we have a consultation with an orthotist on Friday. I wish my ped had said something when he was younger... I didn't realize how bad his head was until a couple weeks ago and then I started reading stuff and looking at photos on the web and realized just how bad his head is. If my ped had told me to never leave him on his back when he was age 4 months, could we have prevented things? I guess I can't worry about the past... I can only do my best now.

> > And let me say that I am thoroughly impressed if you manage to get out of the house alone with all of your kids. It's been so hard with 2 under 2 and I don't know how moms of more handle it.>

> > > > >

-- -mommy to Emma, Becca, , and Girl Scout cookies are coming!

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