Re: New protein bars - soy can be bad news!

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In a message dated 11/16/01 1:47:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shelters@... writes:

<< It can also have a bad effect on menopausal women. >>

Hi, I might want to take that info on the internet with a grain of salt.

Asian women have been eating soy products in the form of Tofu their whole

lives with no adverse effects. I'm menopausal and I drink soymilk every day.

I need to see scientific studies.

Sheryl

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I hear a lot about soy on these lists because we are always looking

for good protein sources.

But I think a lot of people don't realize that soy is not good for

a lot of people. If you are hypothyroid, or on the verge of being

hypothyroid, soy can knock out your thyroid production even further.

It can also have a bad effect on menopausal women.

Here is a website that has a lot of good info on the BAD effects

of soy & soy protein http://www.hormonedivas.com/reports/soy.htm

I don't hear much about it, so thought I'd just add that info here.

-Sherry (Lake Marcel, WA)

Duodenal Switch Surgery Feb. 2, 2001

self-pay

5'5 " / 276 pounds / 34 years old

Lost 9 pounds in pre-op weight loss efforts

Have lost 135 pounds since surgery!

Total of 144 pounds gone forEVER!

http://www.fluffynet.com/wls/

> I heard about a new protein bar that I haven't seen mentioned here

on

> the list. Dr Soy protein bars and other products. I'm still pre-op

so

> I don't expect to order them anytime soon but some of you may want

to

> try them. They contain 11 or 12 gm protein each. Online

@www.drsoy.com

> Best wishes to all

>

> +Doris in PA+

> Hoping for DS

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hypothyroid>>>>>

what is hypothyroid?? Any connection with Para Thryoid Hormone levels?

Judie

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I asked my endocrinologist about this recently, and his response was,

" Who told you THAT???? " I told him, & his response was, " Well, I do

agree that if you take your thyroid medicine with soy milk its action

can be reduced, but it doesn't affect it when taken/eaten several

hours apart. " He's pretty up to date, but I still worry that he might

be wrong.

Liane

> I hear a lot about soy on these lists because we are always looking

> for good protein sources.

>

> But I think a lot of people don't realize that soy is not good for

> a lot of people. If you are hypothyroid, or on the verge of being

> hypothyroid, soy can knock out your thyroid production even further.

>

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Judie-

Not really.. the thyroid is a gland in your neck controlling your

metabolism... if its working too slow you are hypothyroid- not enough

hormone. The parathyroid is a little gland that perches sort of on

top of the thyroid, & controlls serum calcium via a release of a

hormone that takes calcium from bones to make up for deficiencies.

Their only similarity is their location in the body.

Hugs,

Liane

> hypothyroid>>>>>

>

> what is hypothyroid?? Any connection with Para Thryoid Hormone

levels?

>

> Judie

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Thanks Liane.....I just wondered if hypothroid contributed to high PTH's!

glad to know it doesnt!!

Hugs, Judie

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Hi Sherry!

Thank you for this news. I have been thinking about

more soy in my life. Now I know not to, as I am also

hypothyroid.

=====

Debi-NH

Consult NYC 11/29/01

Dr Herron/Mt Sinai

BMI 63

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> In a message dated 11/16/01 1:47:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> shelters@f... writes:

>

> << It can also have a bad effect on menopausal women. >>

>

> Hi, I might want to take that info on the internet with a grain of

salt.

> Asian women have been eating soy products in the form of Tofu their

whole

> lives with no adverse effects. I'm menopausal and I drink soymilk

every day.

> I need to see scientific studies.

> Sheryl

1. Are you Asian?

2. Did you read the link?

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> > In a message dated 11/16/01 1:47:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> > shelters@f... writes:

> >

> > << It can also have a bad effect on menopausal women. >>

> >

> > Hi, I might want to take that info on the internet with a grain of

> salt.

> > Asian women have been eating soy products in the form of Tofu their

> whole

> > lives with no adverse effects. I'm menopausal and I drink soymilk

> every day.

> > I need to see scientific studies.

> > Sheryl

>

> 1. Are you Asian?

> 2. Did you read the link?

1. NO

2. YES

I'd STILL take it w/a grain of salt. I'm hypothyroid and I eat soy

with no adverse effects.

Liane