Re: Persoanl female question

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In a message dated 12/18/01 2:41:47 PM Eastern Standard Time, andem4@...

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<< I also have constant lower back and lower abdominal pain/discomfort. >>

Kathy,

I am not saying this would help in your case, but I want to relate to you

what helped me years ago. From being obese and having a large stomach, it

would pull my uterus and bladder out of place. When this would happen I

would have extreme back pain. My chiropracter is the one who discovered

this, through process of elimination. He told me that they were attached to

the back area inside the body. He would have me lay on my back, with my

knees up and he would work on the lower stomach and push things up. Me

typing this does not actually describe what all he did, but boy did it help

with the back pain. He was able to muscle test me before doing this also.

Whenever I had pain in my lower back, I would go and have him work on me. I

anticipate having to have this done as I lose weight also. Over the years I

have found that as my weight went up or down, I needed to go for adjustments.

Like I said, this may only work for me....but it really did help me.

Sheri

9/28/01

Dr Herron

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I'm so sorry about your female problems!

I don't know any of the answers but I was wondering if

you could have an ablasion (sp?) down there. A good

friend from Canada had one a few years ago and loves

it. All of her innards are still there but she

doesn't have a period any longer. She used to have

serious cramping and bleeding too but no longer. And

since she still has her innards, she's not on

medication.

Good luck,

dee

--- t6322kh wrote:

> WARNING - THIS CONTAINS PERSONAL INFO. IF YOU

> OFFEND EASY, DON'T READ

>

>

>

> I am now 5 months post-op and will be 33 next month.

> Prior to

> surgery I had lots of problems with my periods being

> really heavy,

> bad cramps, etc. I also had some pain with

> intercourse. My OB/GYN

> had me go through tons of tests and we found nothing

> except my uterus

> was swollen. He suspects adenomyosis, but the only

> way to get a

> definate diagnosis is to remove the uterus and

> disect it. He wanted

> to take a conservative approach, so I had a D & C done

> about a month

> before my DS surgery. After my DS surgery, I still

> had lots of

> problems with my periods, so I tried birth control

> pills. They made

> me really sick and I couldn't eat for 2 days until

> they were out of

> my system. There was some hope that the weight loss

> would help the

> problems I have been having. Instead, they seem

> worse. The pain is

> so bad that I can no longer have sex with my

> husband. I also have

> constant lower back and lower abdominal

> pain/discomfort. I think we

> have gotten to the point of a hysterectomy being the

> last resort.

> Since I am done having babies, that part doesn't

> bother me. I just

> wonder how this would affect me since I am only 5

> months post-op.

> Besides that, has my body healed enough from my open

> DS surgery to be

> able to handle another surgery? I have lost a lot

> of my excess

> weight and I am getting near goal. What kinds of

> risks are involved

> since I had DS surgery? I have an appointment to

> see my OB/GYN next

> week and I want to be prepared when I go. The

> thought of another

> surgery doesn't sound too good to me, but I also

> can't stand this

> pain anymore. Why would it be worse since I lost so

> much weight?

>

> Kathy M.

> DS 7/19/01

> 213 pre-op

> 131 today

>

>

>

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>

> I have an appointment to see my OB/GYN next

> week and I want to be prepared when I go. The thought of another

> surgery doesn't sound too good to me, but I also can't stand this

> pain anymore. Why would it be worse since I lost so much weight?

>

Kathy M: I'm so sorry to hear zbout your pain --- has the doctor

tried a new treatment where they inflate a balloon filled with warm

water into the uterus? I've heard this technique can help swelling

and pain. I totally understand if a hysterectomy is the last resort,

but be sure to try any and all other methods before this -- I mean,

also research what kind of side effects could be present, etc. if you

do get your uterus removed. Will he also remove the tubes/ovaries?

That is the really important question because one's hormonal system

can get really disrupted if the tubes and ovaries come out.... They

CAN BE LEFT IN and only the uterus removed, from what I've read. This

may make the transition easier.... Be sure to discuss this with your

OB/GYN because many women don't realize this.

Perhaps do a search online for hysterectomy and the condition you

mentioned -- perhaps there will be new research or new techniques on

how to deal with this! See if the procedure is available lap, too ---

I think it might be. Also, try to speak with post-op hysterecomy

patients -- I'm sure there's some kind of group here on yahoo... This

way, you can see what others have experienced, see what their input

is and also, if you do decide to take this option, you'd have a

support group to help you through as well!

As far as the DS goes, I really don't know if a hysterectomy would

have any bearing on it, except if there are adhesions/scars in that

area (I've heard that some people experience them around the

colon/lower abdomen). I'd contact my surgeon just to make sure,

though and see what he/she has to say about having this surgery so

close to your DS.... I hope everything turns out wonderfully for you

and hate to hear about you in pain.

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 198 lbs/bmi 28/size sweet 16 but squ

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Hi Kathy-

I know exactly what you are going through girl... I did what you are

doing for the last 2 years. I several biopsies and the straw thing

biopsy twice- oowwee! I also had the oblation and the d & c and none

of that would stop my bleeding. Then when I was finally anemic (the

dr said that it was a good thing that I was so large and healthy,

it took longer for me to become anemic!) I had my hysterectomy last

July 2001 and am having the DS on the day after tomorrow. Dr K said

all will be well.... I also had the hysterectomy vaginal (and they

said it couldnt be done because of my weight), and all was well. And

I feel great and will only get better because of the DS.

I know the D & C works for some, I know the oblation works for some,

but it did not work for me. The lining of my uterus was growing into

the uterine muscle and thats what was causing my pain. Then between

the d & c and the hysterectomy I grew a tumor in there too, so for me

the hysterectomy was the way to go. I kept my ovaries (thank you

very much) and know that they help hormonally.

I would definately talk to your gyno and ask about having it done

vaginally. that would not disturb your incision.

Just a thought... and my 2 cents worth.

I will keep you in my prayers,

Sharon in Onyx

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., Dee <donna_lee777@y...> wrote:

> I'm so sorry about your female problems!

>

> I don't know any of the answers but I was wondering if

> you could have an ablasion (sp?) down there. A good

> friend from Canada had one a few years ago and loves

> it. All of her innards are still there but she

> doesn't have a period any longer. She used to have

> serious cramping and bleeding too but no longer. And

> since she still has her innards, she's not on

> medication.

>

> Good luck,

> dee

>

> --- t6322kh <andem4@a...> wrote:

> > WARNING - THIS CONTAINS PERSONAL INFO. IF YOU

> > OFFEND EASY, DON'T READ

> >

> >

> >

> > I am now 5 months post-op and will be 33 next month.

> > Prior to

> > surgery I had lots of problems with my periods being

> > really heavy,

> > bad cramps, etc. I also had some pain with

> > intercourse. My OB/GYN

> > had me go through tons of tests and we found nothing

> > except my uterus

> > was swollen. He suspects adenomyosis, but the only

> > way to get a

> > definate diagnosis is to remove the uterus and

> > disect it. He wanted

> > to take a conservative approach, so I had a D & C done

> > about a month

> > before my DS surgery. After my DS surgery, I still

> > had lots of

> > problems with my periods, so I tried birth control

> > pills. They made

> > me really sick and I couldn't eat for 2 days until

> > they were out of

> > my system. There was some hope that the weight loss

> > would help the

> > problems I have been having. Instead, they seem

> > worse. The pain is

> > so bad that I can no longer have sex with my

> > husband. I also have

> > constant lower back and lower abdominal

> > pain/discomfort. I think we

> > have gotten to the point of a hysterectomy being the

> > last resort.

> > Since I am done having babies, that part doesn't

> > bother me. I just

> > wonder how this would affect me since I am only 5

> > months post-op.

> > Besides that, has my body healed enough from my open

> > DS surgery to be

> > able to handle another surgery? I have lost a lot

> > of my excess

> > weight and I am getting near goal. What kinds of

> > risks are involved

> > since I had DS surgery? I have an appointment to

> > see my OB/GYN next

> > week and I want to be prepared when I go. The

> > thought of another

> > surgery doesn't sound too good to me, but I also

> > can't stand this

> > pain anymore. Why would it be worse since I lost so

> > much weight?

> >

> > Kathy M.

> > DS 7/19/01

> > 213 pre-op

> > 131 today

> >

> >

> >

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >

[Guest guest]

, what is the purpose of the balloon and warm

water in the uterus? It doesn't sound painful at all!

dee

--- ma2two wrote:

>

> >

> > I have an appointment to see my OB/GYN next

> > week and I want to be prepared when I go. The

> thought of another

> > surgery doesn't sound too good to me, but I also

> can't stand this

> > pain anymore. Why would it be worse since I lost

> so much weight?

> >

>

> Kathy M: I'm so sorry to hear zbout your pain ---

> has the doctor

> tried a new treatment where they inflate a balloon

> filled with warm

> water into the uterus? I've heard this technique

> can help swelling

> and pain. I totally understand if a hysterectomy is

> the last resort,

> but be sure to try any and all other methods before

> this -- I mean,

> also research what kind of side effects could be

> present, etc. if you

> do get your uterus removed. Will he also remove the

> tubes/ovaries?

> That is the really important question because one's

> hormonal system

> can get really disrupted if the tubes and ovaries

> come out.... They

> CAN BE LEFT IN and only the uterus removed, from

> what I've read. This

> may make the transition easier.... Be sure to

> discuss this with your

> OB/GYN because many women don't realize this.

>

> Perhaps do a search online for hysterectomy and the

> condition you

> mentioned -- perhaps there will be new research or

> new techniques on

> how to deal with this! See if the procedure is

> available lap, too ---

> I think it might be. Also, try to speak with

> post-op hysterecomy

> patients -- I'm sure there's some kind of group here

> on yahoo... This

> way, you can see what others have experienced, see

> what their input

> is and also, if you do decide to take this option,

> you'd have a

> support group to help you through as well!

>

> As far as the DS goes, I really don't know if a

> hysterectomy would

> have any bearing on it, except if there are

> adhesions/scars in that

> area (I've heard that some people experience them

> around the

> colon/lower abdomen). I'd contact my surgeon just

> to make sure,

> though and see what he/she has to say about having

> this surgery so

> close to your DS.... I hope everything turns out

> wonderfully for you

> and hate to hear about you in pain.

>

> all the best,

>

> lap ds with gallbladder removal

> January 25, 2001

> Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

>

> 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

>

> preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

> now: 198 lbs/bmi 28/size sweet 16 but squ

>

>

>

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>

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Kathy -

As far as another surgery goes I had my hernia repair/small bowel

obstruction repair just after my 4th month post-op. I've healed very

well, without any complications.

Good luck,

P

> WARNING - THIS CONTAINS PERSONAL INFO. IF YOU OFFEND EASY, DON'T

READ

>

>

>

> I am now 5 months post-op and will be 33 next month. Prior to

> surgery I had lots of problems with my periods being really heavy,

> bad cramps, etc. I also had some pain with intercourse. My OB/GYN

> had me go through tons of tests and we found nothing except my

uterus

> was swollen. He suspects adenomyosis, but the only way to get a

> definate diagnosis is to remove the uterus and disect it. He

wanted

> to take a conservative approach, so I had a D & C done about a month

> before my DS surgery. After my DS surgery, I still had lots of

> problems with my periods, so I tried birth control pills. They

made

> me really sick and I couldn't eat for 2 days until they were out of

> my system. There was some hope that the weight loss would help the

> problems I have been having. Instead, they seem worse. The pain

is

> so bad that I can no longer have sex with my husband. I also have

> constant lower back and lower abdominal pain/discomfort. I think

we

> have gotten to the point of a hysterectomy being the last resort.

> Since I am done having babies, that part doesn't bother me. I just

> wonder how this would affect me since I am only 5 months post-op.

> Besides that, has my body healed enough from my open DS surgery to

be

> able to handle another surgery? I have lost a lot of my excess

> weight and I am getting near goal. What kinds of risks are

involved

> since I had DS surgery? I have an appointment to see my OB/GYN

next

> week and I want to be prepared when I go. The thought of another

> surgery doesn't sound too good to me, but I also can't stand this

> pain anymore. Why would it be worse since I lost so much weight?

>

> Kathy M.

> DS 7/19/01

> 213 pre-op

> 131 today

[Guest guest]

hi kathy its funny you mention pain during sex i thought i was the only one

every time i tell a doctor that they look at me like im stupid or they have

never heard of a such i also bleed sometimes when i have sex. every doctor i

talk to says i shouldn't be doing that but they don't seem to think its anything

worth worring about. belinda

[Guest guest]

Is this something that just started after your WLS or did you do this

before? My husband and I have a very active sex life now and I sure don't

want problems after surgery when I'll be smaller and can be even more

active!

Jerry, Southern Gal from Louisiana, 1/2 approved!

>From: belinda1668@...

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: <duodenalswitch >

>Subject: Re: Persoanl female question

>Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 11:12:21 EST

>

>hi kathy its funny you mention pain during sex i thought i was the only one

>every time i tell a doctor that they look at me like im stupid or they have

>never heard of a such i also bleed sometimes when i have sex. every doctor

>i talk to says i shouldn't be doing that but they don't seem to think its

>anything worth worring about. belinda

>

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