Re: BPD/DS = accelerated Atkins Diet/

[Guest guest]

,

You are still pretty newly post opt so its natural to feel this way. I

hated the thought of protein for about the first month post opt and thought

I made a terrible mistake since I couldnt stomach thinking about eating

proteins the rest of my life like this. But hon, it passes!!! I love

proteins right now. I think 62 grams a day is a bit high for you right

now....why not try for 40? I think the first month isnt as important as it

will be later.

You might want to try ordering some food from Schwans if you have one that

delivers to your home. They have all kinds of good protein dishes you can

choose from to hide the idea of just eating proteins by adding carbs to it.

You do need some carbs every day or you will certainly burn out and give up

altogether. The brain needs some carbs every day to function properly.

Have you had a baked potato with some butter on it, with sour cream and

chives and grated cheese? By the time you get down to the potato youve

eaten alot of cheese and / or ground beef you put on top so the carbs are

very small in amount eaten. How about a little spaghetti with double the

amount of ground beef (mashed fine)??

How about wrapping some deli ham around a pickle? or even a piece of

cheese?

Hope this helps some.....I know what you are going thru becuz Ive been

there.......

Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

Hi, Judie.

You are so kind. Your " voice " sounds so understanding and gentle.

All of your food suggestions seem like good ideas, particularly the

potato and spaghetti. Ahhhh. So tired right now and just feeling

sorry for myself when I should be grateful.

Thanks so much, my dear,

> ,

> You are still pretty newly post opt so its natural to feel this

way. I

> hated the thought of protein for about the first month post opt and

thought

> I made a terrible mistake since I couldnt stomach thinking about

eating

> proteins the rest of my life like this. But hon, it passes!!! I

love

> proteins right now. I think 62 grams a day is a bit high for you

right

> now....why not try for 40? I think the first month isnt as

important as it

> will be later.

> You might want to try ordering some food from Schwans if you have

one that

> delivers to your home. They have all kinds of good protein dishes

you can

> choose from to hide the idea of just eating proteins by adding

carbs to it.

> You do need some carbs every day or you will certainly burn out and

give up

> altogether. The brain needs some carbs every day to function

properly.

> Have you had a baked potato with some butter on it, with sour cream

and

> chives and grated cheese? By the time you get down to the potato

youve

> eaten alot of cheese and / or ground beef you put on top so the

carbs are

> very small in amount eaten. How about a little spaghetti with

double the

> amount of ground beef (mashed fine)??

> How about wrapping some deli ham around a pickle? or even a piece

of

> cheese?

> Hope this helps some.....I know what you are going thru becuz Ive

been

> there.......

>

> Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

,

Hon, if you need more ideas Ill try to help you out here, okay?

One great idea if you like french toast is to dip that bread in egg mixture

and then scramble the rest of it to eat with the french toast! Forget about

counting carbs right now for the first 6 weeks, ok? You just want to get

that protein in however you can with what tastes best for you right

now.....even down to the maple syrup on the french toast! You arent going

to get enough simple carbs to screw things up for you right now.

Feel free to scream help if you need some more ideas......im more than

willing to help you out here becuz I know how it feels.....

Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Judie.

This means a lot to me right now in my pathetic, sad, and worried

state! I DO like French toast but all I kept seeing was scrambled

eggs in my future. I will try it tomorrow.

Best,

> ,

> Hon, if you need more ideas Ill try to help you out here, okay?

> One great idea if you like french toast is to dip that bread in egg

mixture

> and then scramble the rest of it to eat with the french toast!

Forget about

> counting carbs right now for the first 6 weeks, ok? You just want

to get

> that protein in however you can with what tastes best for you right

> now.....even down to the maple syrup on the french toast! You

arent going

> to get enough simple carbs to screw things up for you right now.

> Feel free to scream help if you need some more ideas......im more

than

> willing to help you out here becuz I know how it feels.....

>

> Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

I DO like French toast but all I kept seeing was scrambled

eggs in my future. >>>>

thats exactly how I felt! If someone mentioned hamburgers thats all I saw

instead of maybe using it to make spaghetti with! I needed to camoflague

the protein in ways to trick my mind so I could eat it....its weird, isnt

it? I couldnt stand the though of eating any proteins, period! Rabecca who

used to be on this list and had her surgery in Spain helped me alot over

this hump so Im trying to pass on to you what she did to help me.

Have you gone to the Schwans website to see what they have that you might

like???

You might also try eating a scoop of ice cream.....the real stuff.....no

fakaroonies here. That can sometimes help you over the protein hump too!

Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

OK, Judie.

Just visited Schwans. Didn't know such a site existed. I'll look at

it in more detail later. Also, just ate some ice cream, and I DO

feel a little better. I was on the verge of a protein panic attack!

You've just made a friend whom you are not going to be able to

shake! Everytime I flip out I'm gonna start whining for you!

Luv,

> I DO like French toast but all I kept seeing was scrambled

> eggs in my future. >>>>

>

> thats exactly how I felt! If someone mentioned hamburgers thats

all I saw

> instead of maybe using it to make spaghetti with! I needed to

camoflague

> the protein in ways to trick my mind so I could eat it....its

weird, isnt

> it? I couldnt stand the though of eating any proteins, period!

Rabecca who

> used to be on this list and had her surgery in Spain helped me alot

over

> this hump so Im trying to pass on to you what she did to help me.

> Have you gone to the Schwans website to see what they have that you

might

> like???

> You might also try eating a scoop of ice cream.....the real

stuff.....no

> fakaroonies here. That can sometimes help you over the protein

hump too!

>

> Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

Everytime I flip out I'm gonna start whining for you!>>>>

Thats what Im for, !!! =)

Im trying to give back something that Rabecca gave me a year ago......sanity

when I thought I was going crazy hating proteins!

Im glad the ice cream did it for you.....does every time. Do not deny

yourself something that would help you get thru this rough period, okay? I

thought I could never have anything good or sweet and had to stick with

proteins for the rest of my life.....thought Id rather die than do that.

Then I started adding carbs little by little then it got to be more

tolerable.

Do you like grapes? firm, big juicy grapes? If you have a costco there, go

get some! They are wonderful and at the same time you will get in some of

your fruits. (Watermellon also did it for me too but its out of season now)

I also noticed that fruits really filled me up fast!

Check out that Schwans list and see if there is something on it you might

like that will carry you thru for awhile......maccaroni and cheese is

excellent for this period of time.......if you make your own add extra

cheese to boost the protein levels.

Remember.....if you eat ice cream always eat the real thing......also real

mayo none of the fake stuff! (the ice cream sometimes helps break a

plateau!)

Are you able to tolerate bread? If so, how about a tuna sandwich or toasted

cheese? Or even a soft taco with some mashed ground beef (sirloin...its the

best) with all the stuff you love on tacos! Think of how much protein is

loaded on tacos? you might add some refried beans too to boost the protein

levels.....

Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

,

Judie has to much class and social graces to say this but if anyone whined at

the beginning of surgery that was me *raises hand and points to self* I was

whining in private emails no less....And when I went through my first plateau

and I just " knew " that the surgery failed and I wasn't going to lose any weight.

Judie gently said " calm down you are doing great plateaus are a common part of

this process " If it hadnt been for all those posts and all the cheering up I

think I would have left the list 2 months post-op...Judie is an angel...Thanks

for all the support Judie I know you got me through a real rough spot!

Lisbeth

June 25, 2001

254-->189

On another plateau *sigh* this too shall pass....

Judie Hensel wrote: Everytime I flip out I'm gonna

start whining for you!>>>>

Thats what Im for, !!! =)

Im trying to give back something that Rabecca gave me a year ago......sanity

when I thought I was going crazy hating proteins!

Im glad the ice cream did it for you.....does every time. Do not deny

yourself something that would help you get thru this rough period, okay? I

thought I could never have anything good or sweet and had to stick with

proteins for the rest of my life.....thought Id rather die than do that.

Then I started adding carbs little by little then it got to be more

tolerable.

Do you like grapes? firm, big juicy grapes? If you have a costco there, go

get some! They are wonderful and at the same time you will get in some of

your fruits. (Watermellon also did it for me too but its out of season now)

I also noticed that fruits really filled me up fast!

Check out that Schwans list and see if there is something on it you might

like that will carry you thru for awhile......maccaroni and cheese is

excellent for this period of time.......if you make your own add extra

cheese to boost the protein levels.

Remember.....if you eat ice cream always eat the real thing......also real

mayo none of the fake stuff! (the ice cream sometimes helps break a

plateau!)

Are you able to tolerate bread? If so, how about a tuna sandwich or toasted

cheese? Or even a soft taco with some mashed ground beef (sirloin...its the

best) with all the stuff you love on tacos! Think of how much protein is

loaded on tacos? you might add some refried beans too to boost the protein

levels.....

Hugs, Judie

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[Guest guest]

,

I think it's the seeming lack of variety post-op that gets us down! Thank God we

have all these people to come up with suggestions for us! *grins* I was getting

tired of protein for a while as well, but then I was also eating practically the

same 3 things..I was meaning to try that chicken quesadilla from Taco Bell, but

I haven't yet..I don't think pita bread will expand that much in your stomach,

so I'm willing to try it Btw, I also think the anesthesia affects us more

than we think and we're more emotional those first 6-8 weeks post-op..I almost

cried during the movie when I went to see Harry Potter today!

Hang in there, we both know it gets better!

Anita

11/08/01 Dr Keshishian

11/08/01 320lbs

11/26/01 298lbs

> > ,

> > You are still pretty newly post opt so its natural to feel this

> way. I

> > hated the thought of protein for about the first month post opt and

> thought

> > I made a terrible mistake since I couldnt stomach thinking about

> eating

> > proteins the rest of my life like this. But hon, it passes!!! I

> love

> > proteins right now. I think 62 grams a day is a bit high for you

> right

> > now....why not try for 40? I think the first month isnt as

> important as it

> > will be later.

> > You might want to try ordering some food from Schwans if you have

> one that

> > delivers to your home. They have all kinds of good protein dishes

> you can

> > choose from to hide the idea of just eating proteins by adding

> carbs to it.

> > You do need some carbs every day or you will certainly burn out and

> give up

> > altogether. The brain needs some carbs every day to function

> properly.

> > Have you had a baked potato with some butter on it, with sour cream

> and

> > chives and grated cheese? By the time you get down to the potato

> youve

> > eaten alot of cheese and / or ground beef you put on top so the

> carbs are

> > very small in amount eaten. How about a little spaghetti with

> double the

> > amount of ground beef (mashed fine)??

> > How about wrapping some deli ham around a pickle? or even a piece

> of

> > cheese?

> > Hope this helps some.....I know what you are going thru becuz Ive

> been

> > there.......

> >

> > Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

Damn now I want some grapes....

Lisbeth

mkfrilot wrote: I totally agree with you, Lisbeth. Judie

is an angel! Did you see

her last wonderful post for me? Big, firm, juicy grapes! Now I

gotta go get some! I've hardly had any fruit at all! I must seem

like a real whiney baby/basket case right now. THANK YOU, JUDIE!

Eternally yours, ;}

Everytime I flip out I'm gonna

start whining for you!>>>>

>

> Thats what Im for, !!! =)

> Im trying to give back something that Rabecca gave me a year

ago......sanity

> when I thought I was going crazy hating proteins!

>

> Im glad the ice cream did it for you.....does every time. Do not

deny

> yourself something that would help you get thru this rough period,

okay? I

> thought I could never have anything good or sweet and had to stick

with

> proteins for the rest of my life.....thought Id rather die than do

that.

> Then I started adding carbs little by little then it got to be more

> tolerable.

>

> Do you like grapes? firm, big juicy grapes? If you have a costco

there, go

> get some! They are wonderful and at the same time you will get in

some of

> your fruits. (Watermellon also did it for me too but its out of

season now)

> I also noticed that fruits really filled me up fast!

>

> Check out that Schwans list and see if there is something on it you

might

> like that will carry you thru for awhile......maccaroni and cheese

is

> excellent for this period of time.......if you make your own add

extra

> cheese to boost the protein levels.

>

> Remember.....if you eat ice cream always eat the real

thing......also real

> mayo none of the fake stuff! (the ice cream sometimes helps break a

> plateau!)

>

> Are you able to tolerate bread? If so, how about a tuna sandwich or

toasted

> cheese? Or even a soft taco with some mashed ground beef

(sirloin...its the

> best) with all the stuff you love on tacos! Think of how much

protein is

> loaded on tacos? you might add some refried beans too to boost the

protein

> levels.....

>

> Hugs, Judie

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

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>

[Guest guest]

,

Unfortunately, I live in Colorado, so no Del Taco, In and Out Burger or anything

like that for me! I would have to goto a real Mexican place if I wanted

something other than Taco Bell My plan for next year is Mazatlan, where I

hope to look and feel good and have mahi mahi and fresh shrimp on those lovely

beach side restaurants!

Anita (in Denver)

Dr Keshishian 11/08/01

11/08/01 320lbs

11/26/01 298lbs

> Hi, Anita.

>

> As an ex-Californian (born and raised in Laguna Beach), I know that

> you can do better than the Taco Bell chicken quesadilla, which really

> ain't all that great! GO TO DEL TACO OR EL POLLO LOCO! If you want

> fast food, that is! Del Taco's chicken quesadillas ROCK, so much so,

> in fact, that I was tempted to move back " home " just to have access

> to them!

>

>

> <hear voice of Homer Simpson: mmmmmmm, Del Taco.>

>

>