Re: High Protein Post Op....

[Guest guest]

Hi Sue!

I can hardly believe its been one year. One long year when it seems we went

to sleep last Nov and woke up this past spring 70 lbs lighter!

I certainly hope Dr Welker can help you......if anyone can, he can. Im

really looking forward to my TT next spring with him.....hes the only

surgeon I trust with my life!

Ive been thinking about what Mike and I should do to celebrate our one yr

anniversary......hmmmmm should we go skydiving? How about bungee jumping?

LOL At 57, you guys must think we are crazy!!!!!

hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

One of my friends who had the RNY a few years ago had previously professed

that she didn't dump. Today she confessed that anytime she eats sugar, she

gets sick and has to go to bed for a few hours.

Not only have the RNY patients made a bad choice, they aren't truthful about

it, either.

Out of the three who I personally know, one dumps and the other is always

puking up her dinner. The third still says she can eat most anything and in

adequate quantities. I have yet to break her!

Best -

Nick

Re: Re: High Protein Post Op....

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> > Can you imagine how we would be discussing this issue if we had all had

> the

> > RNY? LOL ! ! ! !

>

> Nick,

> I think if we had the RNY we would be talking about what a terrible

mistake

> we had made and trying to figure out some way to undo what we did! There

> would be alot of regrets, thats for sure!

>

> Judie

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[Guest guest]

No Judie, you guys are just alive and living life to the fullest!

A Judie wanabe at 57!

Edee

Pre-opt Chicago

> anniversary......hmmmmm should we go skydiving? How about bungee

jumping?

> LOL At 57, you guys must think we are crazy!!!!!

>

> hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

i went to a rny support group meeting today and a lady admitted that she lost

150 lbs in 14 months still has 100 to go and the doctor told her the surgery

has done all its going to do is that the same with the bpd/ds? i felt so

sorry for her its like why bother if your not going to lose any more than

that. she has only lost 50% of her excess weight. it is better odds with

the ds right? thanks belinda

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/17/2001 1:59:08 PM Central Standard Time,

belinda1668@... writes:

> i went to a rny support group meeting today and a lady admitted that she

> lost

> 150 lbs in 14 months still has 100 to go and the doctor told her the

> surgery

> has done all its going to do is that the same with the bpd/ds? i felt so

> sorry for her its like why bother if your not going to lose any more than

> that. she has only lost 50% of her excess weight. it is better odds with

> the ds right? thanks belinda

>

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I would not say it wasn't worth it. I am sure she is has much better health

than what she had previously. Also, you have to consider how much more she

didn't gain.

Dawn--South Suburban Chicago area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5' 4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting

[Guest guest]

There is a tremendous difference between the Atkins and the DS, I

don't even know where to start.

First of all, I did Atkins more times than I can count. Always had

the same result. Filling up on protein goes great, I'd lose a lot of

weight but eventually the need for toast or pasta or mashed potatoes

or whatever just overwhelms all your good intentions and soon you are

off the diet.

After surgery it's a completly different animal. Yes, you have to

focus on protein, but you are not limited from anything else, it's

not taboo to have a bacon sandwich because the bread will put you

over your carb limit for the day.

I'm almost seven months out and this is what I ate yesterday.

Breakfast: Two eggs, three strips of bacon, then on the way to work

I drank a bottle of orange juice. Before surgery I would have had a

giant cinamon roll or a three or four donuts or nothing.

Lunch: Four inches of a six inch sub with double meat, and half a

peanut butter cookie. Prior to surgery I would have eaten the whole

sandwich along with a bag of chips and eaten two cookies as well as a

large Pepsi. And before I went home from work I'd have made my way

to the vending machine for chips or candy or something.

Snack: Hanging out at my brother's place before a very late dinner

so had a handful of corn chips.

Dinner: Six inch French Dip, five french fries. Normally I wouldn't

have had so much bread in a day but I've been hankerin' for a French

Dip for a long time, lol. Before surgery I would have had a bowl of

soup or salad prior to the meal, I would have eaten every bite of the

sandwich (After I ate half the sammich I was getting full so I

removed the rest of the bread and just ate the meat) and eaten every

french fry on the plate, and prolly would have wanted dessert too

along with killing a couple of glasses of Pepsi. Then when I got

home I'd have been ransacking my kitchen for a snack.

This morning I woke up and was thinking I sure ate a LOT of food

yesterday. But then I actually put it down on paper and as you can

see, it's NOTHING compared to pre-surg.

There is a LOT to be said for being satisfied. It's something I

wasn't familiar with prior to surgery and just love now. I still

have times when I've eaten and two hours later I'm hungry. But it's

not a big deal because I didn't eat enough for two or three people so

having a yogurt or meat and crackers or ice cream doesn't fill me

with guilt, nor does it make the scale go up.

If you want to think of it as a forced diet, you can. It basically

is, but it's so much better than what I had before that I'd do it

again and again. I don't think of it that way at all because I just

eat what I want, yes I focus on protein, but once you do that in

combination with being satisfied you are going to see the world of

difference between this and a diet.

Within six to eight months of having the surgery your life will be so

normal that you can't believe it. You don't spend much time thinking

or planning food, it will come naturally. Unlike being on Atkins you

can make your food choices and you don't sit there eating your meal

and wishing you were having something else.

I suppose it's possible that one could lose the weight if they stuck

to such a diet without the surgery (I doubt it but for the sake of

arguement I'll concede it). Problem is, I don't know about you, but

I NEVER stayed on Atkins for 6 months.....never could make it that

long.

Barbi

DS on 4/24/01

Starting BMI 61

Current BMI 40 (I'm no longer morbidly obese!)

-120 pounds

> It appears that most post-ops, simply by following the advice of

> protein and water first, carbs second....are basically following a

> high-protein diet. So this begs the question...is the weight loss

a

> result of the restriction/malabsorbtion, or of the change in diet

> forced upon you by the surgery? Or some combination of both?

>

[Guest guest]

It's early days for you. I was the same way the first month or so. I

got SOOOOO tired of eating protein, would have loved to eat some

bread or something. I especially craved veggies. Actually tried

bread, noodles, a biscuit (not all at one time, of course!) and found

that I just could not eat them. I either could not swallow them or

had to vomit after. All that calmed down by about 7 weeks out. I can

eat carbs now, I just don't eat many. It's kinda weird, I really

resent the amount of space they use up in my stomach. If I have carbs

I can't get in much else. Since I need the protein I eat most of

whatever that is and have small amounts of carbs every 3-4 bites of

protein. It helps even it out and solve my carb cravings. If I'm

eating, say, a cheeseburger, I try to take off the top part of the

bun. It's just too much bread.

Your cravings for sugar should calm down. Each time I've just thought

I'd die for a brownie I've made a pan (three times since surgery.) I

eat one tiny 1 x 1 inch square and that's it. Craving's over. My mom

may eat one or two more, then the rest go to the neighbors, to work,

to anyone else. I'm just not interested anymore.

Remember, this too will pass. Just make sure you eat frequently, even

if it's a small amount, drink plenty of fluids, and take your

vitamins.

P

post-op 05-30-01

Dr. Kim, Ocean Spgs, MS

down 84 lbs!

> > Dear JJ,

> >

> > I was on the Atkins diet, lost alot of weight and regained it

back

> > plus some. I was miserable and it was so hard not to cheat.

Life

> > for me now that I am almost 7 months Lap BPD/DS post-op is not

like

> > dieting at all. Yes, I make sure I consume enough protein each

day

> > and take my vitamins. At this point, it is easy for me to take

in

> 90

> > grams of protein a day. Basically, once I know that I have eaten

> > enough protein and have (or will) taken in enough for the day, I

> eat

> > anything else that I want. I never lost my taste for sweets. I

> eat

> > candy, cookies and/or ice cream on a daily basis. It hasn't

> affected

> > my weight loss, so I don't really stress about it. I also eat

> carbs

> > and whatever else that I want. The only " rule " is to take in

> enough

> > protein. For example, when I eat a bagel and cream cheese, I add

a

> > slice of smoked salmon. When I make a sandwich, I use thinner

> bread

> > and add an extra slice of meat and cheese. I also eat my piece

of

> > meat before digging into the mashed potatos and gravy. Yes, I

find

> > that I eat high protein, but not really anymore than I did pre-

op.

> A

> > 6 oz. filet mignon for dinner has about 42 grams of protein, add

2

> > eggs with cheese and a sausage patty for breakfast and a sandwich

> > with a glass of milk and some soy nuts for lunch and my protein

is

> in

> > and I still have room for anything else that I want. Also, my

> > nightly ice cream has protein AND calcium. No way is post-op DS

> life

> > a diet at all. Also, we malabsorb alot so even though I may be

> > eating over 2,000 calories a day, I am not really.

> >

> > Jane J.

> > 230/151 (-79 lbs)

> > Lap BPD/DS

> > 4/26/01