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OK, I'm starting to feel like I'm having a conversation only with

myself over here. Nevertheless, I will post the results of my

supplement quest:

Supplements that did not dissolve in 30 min. in 6oz. of white vinegar:

Cal Apatite with Boron (rock hard)

GNC Multi Gel-Caps

One a Day for Men (doesn't have iron or calcium)

Theragran High Potency

ADEKs (rock hard)

Twin Lab's One a Day capsules (dissolved partially)

Chromagen Forte (iron Rx)

Supplements that did dissolve in 30 min. in 6oz. of white vinegar:

Centrum Silver (within 15 minutes!) (has E & K, too; and NO SMELL!!)

GNC Calcimate (calcium citrate/malate; better than plain citrate)

Twin Lab's Allergy A & D

GNC Ultra Acidophilus

ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO TAKES CHROMAGEN FORTE? HOW HAVE YOUR IRON

LEVELS BEEN??

Suffice it to say, I'm going to use all the supplements that DID

dissolve, except for one: the Chromagen Forte. Hope my stomach can

dissolve that sucker faster than vinegar.

Best,

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Hey Girl!

Don't give up your quest! I am pre-op but I keep posts such as yours as

information that I can use later! I really appreciate all your hard work

and research!! Thanks much!

Jerry, Southern Gal from Louisiana

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>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: duodenalswitch

>Subject: EUREKA!

>Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 22:41:31 -0000

>

>OK, I'm starting to feel like I'm having a conversation only with

>myself over here. Nevertheless, I will post the results of my

>supplement quest:

>

>Supplements that did not dissolve in 30 min. in 6oz. of white vinegar:

>Cal Apatite with Boron (rock hard)

>GNC Multi Gel-Caps

>One a Day for Men (doesn't have iron or calcium)

>Theragran High Potency

>ADEKs (rock hard)

>Twin Lab's One a Day capsules (dissolved partially)

>Chromagen Forte (iron Rx)

>

>Supplements that did dissolve in 30 min. in 6oz. of white vinegar:

>Centrum Silver (within 15 minutes!) (has E & K, too; and NO SMELL!!)

>GNC Calcimate (calcium citrate/malate; better than plain citrate)

>Twin Lab's Allergy A & D

>GNC Ultra Acidophilus

>

>ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO TAKES CHROMAGEN FORTE? HOW HAVE YOUR IRON

>LEVELS BEEN??

>

>Suffice it to say, I'm going to use all the supplements that DID

>dissolve, except for one: the Chromagen Forte. Hope my stomach can

>dissolve that sucker faster than vinegar.

>

>Best,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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> ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO TAKES CHROMAGEN FORTE? HOW HAVE YOUR IRON

> LEVELS BEEN??

>

> Suffice it to say, I'm going to use all the supplements that DID

> dissolve, except for one: the Chromagen Forte. Hope my stomach can

> dissolve that sucker faster than vinegar.

>

> : I hope you realize how much we appreciate your efforts -

that's why I said you should get a research grant! LOL

I have taken the chromagen Forte and my iron levels have been fine at

3 months and 6 months out. I'm sure there are quite a few others who

take this supplement -- It is supposed to be easier on the stomach and

contains liquid iron in that capsule... I'm not sure why it didn't

'dissolve'... It also contains vit C to maximize the iron absorption.

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. GAgner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 198 lbs/bmi 28/size sweet 16 but squeezin' into 14!

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Hey, .

Yeah, I'm not sure why the Chromagen Forte didn't dissolve. First

off, it's not liquid inside, but a kind of gel. Second, vinegar IS

NOT stomach acid, although I hope it mimics the PH pretty well. The

capsule did become quite soft, however, so I have some hope. Good to

hear that your iron levels are OK.

Best,

> > >

> > ANYONE ELSE OUT THERE WHO TAKES CHROMAGEN FORTE? HOW HAVE YOUR

IRON

> > LEVELS BEEN??

> >

> > Suffice it to say, I'm going to use all the supplements that DID

> > dissolve, except for one: the Chromagen Forte. Hope my stomach

can

> > dissolve that sucker faster than vinegar.

> >

> > : I hope you realize how much we appreciate your

efforts -

> that's why I said you should get a research grant! LOL

>

> I have taken the chromagen Forte and my iron levels have been fine

at

> 3 months and 6 months out. I'm sure there are quite a few others

who

> take this supplement -- It is supposed to be easier on the stomach

and

> contains liquid iron in that capsule... I'm not sure why it didn't

> 'dissolve'... It also contains vit C to maximize the iron

absorption.

>

> all the best,

>

> lap ds with gallbladder removal

> January 25, 2001

> Dr. GAgner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

>

> 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

>

> preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

> now: 198 lbs/bmi 28/size sweet 16 but squeezin' into 14!

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Hi - I've been enjoying your posts over the past few

days..lol. One question...the ADEKs didn't dissolve? Hmmm...wont

this cause a problem? (oops 2 questions)

Take care,

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The ADEK's are not a problem if you chew them! Remember they were made for

cystic fibrosis patients who have a real problem with malabsorption so it

works for us too.

Judie

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>OK, I'm starting to feel like I'm having a conversation only with

>myself over here. Nevertheless, I will post the results of my

>supplement quest:

I have even printed your information out!!! YOU are not conversing just

with yourself.

i

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Hi, .

I'm glad that you asked these questions because it crossed my mind

for a brief second last night that my post could have been misleading.

When I put the ADEKs in vinegar, I put one in whole and another in

halved. They barely even softened. Remember, though, that these are

CHEWABLE vitamins. You must chew these babies. There are two

reasons that I tried to dissolve them whole (or partially whole):

1. Chewing them makes me want to hurl so I thought I could either

swallow them whole or halved and get the benefits of ADEKs without

the chewing.

2. Scandipharm's web site says that ADEKs can be " halved . . . and

swallowed, " so I thought that gave me carte blanche to do number one.

Despite what the web site says, the knowledgable people at

Scandipharm's customer service center always recommend chewing these

vitamins, not swallowing them whole or in halves.

All of this is to say that, if you do as you're " told " (something

I've always had trouble with!) and chew these vitamins well, you

won't have any problems! I still think that ADEKs ARE superior to

Twin Lab's Allergy A & D if you can " stomach " them because they have

vitamins E & K in them and Allergy, of course, does not. Yeah, I

know that there are no studies that show that D/Sers have E & K

problems and so the ADEKs may be overkill. But why not be on the

safe side if at all possible?

Best,

Dr. Gagner, NYC

lap BPD/DS

11-20-01

highest weight: 309

surgery weight: 293

current weight: 273

> Hi - I've been enjoying your posts over the past few

> days..lol. One question...the ADEKs didn't dissolve? Hmmm...wont

> this cause a problem? (oops 2 questions)

>

> Take care,

>

>

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Right, Judie!

See my clarification post about them. I was trying " to get around "

having to chew these wonderful tablets. Obviously, it ain't gonna

work so I'm switching to the Allergy A & D.

Your devoted and grateful servant, etc.,

> ,

> The ADEK's are not a problem if you chew them! Remember they were

made for

> cystic fibrosis patients who have a real problem with malabsorption

so it

> works for us too.

>

> Judie

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