Re: youngest to have the surgery

[Guest guest]

Have you read the book Preventing Childhood Eating Problems: Raising

Children Free of Food and weight issues. I highly recommend it. It can help

put everyone at ease. Then if at an older age due to having a medical

condition anyone needs surgery, fine. However, this will help everyone relax

AND possibly prevent M.O. problems.

Dawn--South Suburban Chicago area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

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[Guest guest]

Ru

Sending you big *HUGS*....Being a parent is tough...(I dont have the honor or

destinction of having children I have a nephew that I consider my own

though)....We do the best we can by our children...I have noticed the same thing

with my nephew (he basically lives with me....I have been doing an inventory of

the things he eats and I have cut out the white flour and anything that is

processed or refined....So far he says he likes the new " brown " bread and I give

him all the tuna he wants....I have a new rule with him...No eating and watching

tv at the same time...I have noticed that when he watches tv he over eats and

feels sick because he is not paying attention to the signals from his stomach to

his brain....My nephew will look and me and say " do you think I am losing any

weight " and I have asked him why that is important and he says because I am fat

and my mom calls me fat...I tell him that what is important is being healthy,

that as long as he can run, play and do his tae kwan do that he is fine...but

like you I am worried about him and feel like I should be doing more for him...

Lisbeth

Ru wrote: Speaking of this Subject--youngest to have

the surgery.

I have a 13 year old--5 foot 3, 220 pounds, BMI of 40, no comorbids.

Ok, first I am not advocating surgery for a 13 year old, but where do you

draw the line?? My nine year old is 5 foot even, and 160, my other nine year

old is 4'11 and 140.... do you see where I am going with this?? I am worried

that each of them are following in my foot steps, and I was 5 foot 6 and 135

in 5th grade!!! I am now just a few pounds shy of 400, not a happy place. I

most definately do NOT want them to experience the **oh so wonderful**

teenage years of being fat.

I am hopeing that my surgery will alter the eating patterns of the family

enough to engender the kids to lose the weight. We have tried pediatric

healthy me " type programs, weight watchers with my oldest, and trying to

ensure that they do have healthy options--fruit and cut up veggies for

snacks, etc. So far nothing much has worked--- another really frightening de

ja vu trend. They, like me, are volume eaters, and a ton of carrot sticks

can add up too. Unfortunatly its not just carrot sticks. I have gradualy

worked to reduce portion sizes, especially with my son, who is as true a

carb addict as they come. Not sweets, just pastas and breads (his twin

sister is the sweet addict)

It broke my heart yesterday when my son asked my when *his* surgery date

was!!! He was being teased at school about being fat. My oldest wants to

know why she has to " do it the hard way " .

Any advice y'all??? I feel like a failure as a person, parent and RN--who

should know better.

Ru

[Guest guest]

I haven't no, but it definatly looks like something I should.

My kids are fair to middling active, not super couch potatoes, but not

athletes either. I do limit the amount of time TV in on in our home, and

meals are a kitchen table thing.

Thanks everyone for your replies, I still am unsettled, but it helps to know

y'all are there......... THANKS!!

Ru

*****************************************************************

Have you read the book Preventing Childhood Eating Problems: Raising

Children Free of Food and weight issues.

[Guest guest]

RU,

I was always the fattest kid around....hurt plenty. My eleven year

old daughter tends to be a big eater, plus carb and sugar eater.

About 2 years ago she was 20 pounds overweight and we took her to see

a nutrionist that works with kids. Group meetings for few months,

then every 3 weeks, now once every 2 months or so. She is usually

able to make better choices and has lost and kept off 12 pounds or

so. Every day could be a struggle...if we let it. Instead, my wife,

myself and nutrionist gently remind her, here and there.....pick our

spots. For my little girl, weight and eating will probably always be

a fight...hope not a big one.

Dan

>

> I haven't no, but it definatly looks like something I should.

>

> My kids are fair to middling active, not super couch potatoes, but

not

> athletes either. I do limit the amount of time TV in on in our

home, and

> meals are a kitchen table thing.

>

> Thanks everyone for your replies, I still am unsettled, but it

helps to know

> y'all are there......... THANKS!!

>

>

>

> Ru

> *****************************************************************

> Have you read the book Preventing Childhood Eating Problems:

Raising

> Children Free of Food and weight issues.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ru,

This is a difficult situation. There are several factors to balance.

I reached 160 lbs when I was 12 and 210 lbs when I was 14, so I am

familiar with the painful results.

I would advocate some combination of psycotherapy and conventional

(but not radical) dieting first. Surgery could be problematic for

children that are still growing. It sounds like that is what you are

trying to do. Perhaps when they reach 16 it would be appropriate to

look at surgery. I feel your pain and theirs.

Hull

> Speaking of this Subject--youngest to have the surgery.

>

> I have a 13 year old--5 foot 3, 220 pounds, BMI of 40, no

comorbids.

> Ok, first I am not advocating surgery for a 13 year old, but where

do you

> draw the line?? My nine year old is 5 foot even, and 160, my other

nine year

> old is 4'11 and 140.... do you see where I am going with this?? I

am worried

> that each of them are following in my foot steps, and I was 5 foot

6 and 135

> in 5th grade!!! I am now just a few pounds shy of 400, not a happy

place. I

> most definately do NOT want them to experience the **oh so

wonderful**

> teenage years of being fat.

>

> I am hopeing that my surgery will alter the eating patterns of the

family

> enough to engender the kids to lose the weight. We have tried

pediatric

> healthy me " type programs, weight watchers with my oldest, and

trying to

> ensure that they do have healthy options--fruit and cut up veggies

for

> snacks, etc. So far nothing much has worked--- another really

frightening de

> ja vu trend. They, like me, are volume eaters, and a ton of carrot

sticks

> can add up too. Unfortunatly its not just carrot sticks. I have

gradualy

> worked to reduce portion sizes, especially with my son, who is as

true a

> carb addict as they come. Not sweets, just pastas and breads (his

twin

> sister is the sweet addict)

>

>

> It broke my heart yesterday when my son asked my when *his* surgery

date

> was!!! He was being teased at school about being fat. My oldest

wants to

> know why she has to " do it the hard way " .

>

> Any advice y'all??? I feel like a failure as a person, parent and

RN--who

> should know better.

>

>

> Ru

>

>

[Guest guest]

Obesity, like everything else, is a combination of genes and environment.

You can change the environment, but you can't change the genes!! I can't

imagine a surgeon contemplating surgery on a child who is still growing, but

you never know...maybe by 16 for a girl??

Good luck...I know all-too-well what it's like to get teased in school for

weight...dont' we all??

~alyssa

youngest to have the surgery

> Speaking of this Subject--youngest to have the surgery.

>

> I have a 13 year old--5 foot 3, 220 pounds, BMI of 40, no comorbids.

> Ok, first I am not advocating surgery for a 13 year old, but where do you

> draw the line?? My nine year old is 5 foot even, and 160, my other nine

year

> old is 4'11 and 140.... do you see where I am going with this?? I am

worried

> that each of them are following in my foot steps, and I was 5 foot 6 and

135

> in 5th grade!!! I am now just a few pounds shy of 400, not a happy place.

I

> most definately do NOT want them to experience the **oh so wonderful**

> teenage years of being fat.

[Guest guest]

I feel for you. I was a fat teen, the pain and humiliation is something

I wish I could spare my child from. I have a 17 year old and he weighs

close to 375 pounds. He will not consider surgery at this time, and I

do not mention it. The fact that he sees me each day is enough to know

when he is ready I will move heaven and earth to help him.

I did tell him that his weight is not his fault, and that diets don't

work when you have 100 or more pounds to lose. It hurts me to think of

the pain he has endured and will continue to endure because of his

weight. Someday he will consider it, and when he does I will be there

for him I hope it is soon. It will save him a lifetime of painful

memories.

Teri

BPD/DS 2/5/01

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

Highest weight 305 pounds

Weight 287, BMI 50.8, 2/5/01

Weight 169, BMI 28, 11/21/01 The future is yours to make -- so make it

a good one!

> Speaking of this Subject--youngest to have the surgery.

>

> I have a 13 year old--5 foot 3, 220 pounds, BMI of 40, no comorbids.

> Ok, first I am not advocating surgery for a 13 year old, but where do you

> draw the line?? My nine year old is 5 foot even, and 160, my other nine year

> old is 4'11 and 140.... do you see where I am going with this?? I am worried

> that each of them are following in my foot steps, and I was 5 foot 6 and 135

> in 5th grade!!! I am now just a few pounds shy of 400, not a happy place. I

> most definately do NOT want them to experience the **oh so wonderful**

> teenage years of being fat.

>

> I am hopeing that my surgery will alter the eating patterns of the family

> enough to engender the kids to lose the weight. We have tried pediatric

> healthy me " type programs, weight watchers with my oldest, and trying to

> ensure that they do have healthy options--fruit and cut up veggies for

> snacks, etc. So far nothing much has worked--- another really frightening de

> ja vu trend. They, like me, are volume eaters, and a ton of carrot sticks

> can add up too. Unfortunatly its not just carrot sticks. I have gradualy

> worked to reduce portion sizes, especially with my son, who is as true a

> carb addict as they come. Not sweets, just pastas and breads (his twin

> sister is the sweet addict)

>

>

> It broke my heart yesterday when my son asked my when *his* surgery date

> was!!! He was being teased at school about being fat. My oldest wants to

> know why she has to " do it the hard way " .

>

> Any advice y'all??? I feel like a failure as a person, parent and RN--who

> should know better.

>

>

> Ru

>

>

[Guest guest]

Terri,

Smart words.....timing is everything

Dan

> I feel for you. I was a fat teen, the pain and humiliation is

something

> I wish I could spare my child from. I have a 17 year old and he

weighs

> close to 375 pounds. He will not consider surgery at this time, and

I

> do not mention it. The fact that he sees me each day is enough to

know

> when he is ready I will move heaven and earth to help him.

>

> I did tell him that his weight is not his fault, and that diets

don't

> work when you have 100 or more pounds to lose. It hurts me to think

of

> the pain he has endured and will continue to endure because of his

> weight. Someday he will consider it, and when he does I will be

there

> for him I hope it is soon. It will save him a lifetime of painful

> memories.

>

> Teri

> BPD/DS 2/5/01

> Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

> Highest weight 305 pounds

> Weight 287, BMI 50.8, 2/5/01

> Weight 169, BMI 28, 11/21/01 The future is yours to make -- so make

it

> a good one!

>

>

>

>

>

> > Speaking of this Subject--youngest to have the surgery.

> >

> > I have a 13 year old--5 foot 3, 220 pounds, BMI of 40, no

comorbids.

> > Ok, first I am not advocating surgery for a 13 year old, but

where do you

> > draw the line?? My nine year old is 5 foot even, and 160, my

other nine year

> > old is 4'11 and 140.... do you see where I am going with this?? I

am worried

> > that each of them are following in my foot steps, and I was 5

foot 6 and 135

> > in 5th grade!!! I am now just a few pounds shy of 400, not a

happy place. I

> > most definately do NOT want them to experience the **oh so

wonderful**

> > teenage years of being fat.

> >

> > I am hopeing that my surgery will alter the eating patterns of

the family

> > enough to engender the kids to lose the weight. We have tried

pediatric

> > healthy me " type programs, weight watchers with my oldest, and

trying to

> > ensure that they do have healthy options--fruit and cut up

veggies for

> > snacks, etc. So far nothing much has worked--- another really

frightening de

> > ja vu trend. They, like me, are volume eaters, and a ton of

carrot sticks

> > can add up too. Unfortunatly its not just carrot sticks. I have

gradualy

> > worked to reduce portion sizes, especially with my son, who is as

true a

> > carb addict as they come. Not sweets, just pastas and breads (his

twin

> > sister is the sweet addict)

> >

> >

> > It broke my heart yesterday when my son asked my when *his*

surgery date

> > was!!! He was being teased at school about being fat. My oldest

wants to

> > know why she has to " do it the hard way " .

> >

> > Any advice y'all??? I feel like a failure as a person, parent

and RN--who

> > should know better.

> >

> >

> > Ru

> >

> >