Re: Coca-Cola :)

[Guest guest]

> - Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who basically lost interest in

> soda post-op?

I always drank Diet Pepsi but I drank a LOT of it. I thought I couldn't live

without it. I HATED it for months. I'm now almost 8 months out and I can have

one on occasion, but to be honest I still don't like it much. I have diet

Vernor's once in a while, but mostly just water and some decaf Latte. Almost

all my other tastes cleared and I like the same things I did before. I eat some

sweets now but never crave them. I think once all that soda was out of my body

I realized how awful it tasted. LOL Hopefully it will work the same for you.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/2001 2:09:58 PM Pacific Standard Time,

rlong@... writes:

> Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who basically lost interest in

> soda post-op? I think this would be the ideal, if I was to just not care

> for it, as I hear is often the case with sugars in general (ice cream,

> etc.).

>

I drink soda still but not nearly what I did. I have maybe one can aday

compared to 5 or 6 preop. It still tastes good but I dont crave it anymore.

~*~ AJ ~*~

Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

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08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs!

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In a message dated 11/15/2001 3:12:07 PM Pacific Standard Time,

lookn2bthin@... writes:

> I drink soda still but not nearly what I did. I have maybe one can aday

> compared to 5 or 6 preop. It still tastes good but I dont crave it

> anymore.

>

I cant stand regular soda....thought I'd specify that I usually have a diet

coke or diet dr pepper!!

~*~ AJ ~*~

Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 415.1

08/24/01 BMI 58 386.5 -28.6 lbs!

09/24/01 BMI 55.8 367.1 -48.0 lbs! -37.75 inches

10/24/01 BMI 52.6 346.0 -69.1 lbs!

11/14/01 BMI 50.8 334.0 -81.1lbs! -66 inches

My profile:

http://www.obesityhelp.com/morbidobesity/profile.phtml?N=E982002956

My websites:

www.wls4aj.homestead.com

www.wlsbellingham.homestead.com

[Guest guest]

In a message dated Thu, 15 Nov 2001 6:03:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, Dee

writes:

But, WHY don't you

> crave it any longer? Is it all sweets or all

> carbonated drinks or is it that thinks taste

> differently now?

It just doesn't taste quite the same to me anymore and I think my system is

'clean' and I now like water better. I always have water with me wherever I go.

Then when I take a drink of pop it just tastes too strong. I also don't think I

like the carbonation well either. Everyone is different, but I never in my life

thought my taste for Diet Pepsi would change. But I'm sitting here drinking my

water right now when pre-op I always had a Diet beside the computer.

Jackie

[Guest guest]

Hi Randy -

There are two problems with Coke -

1. The sugar one which you already described.

2. It is carbonated. When you are a fresh postop, your tummy is so small

that the bubbles expand and cause problems for it which can range from an

unpleasant fullness to actually causing something to go awry.

If you want sugared drinks, try Crystal Light. I like limeade which I make

with juice and Splenda. However, my interest in sweet drinks isn't too

great any more.

Best-

Nick in Sage

[Guest guest]

Randy,

I was a Pepsi-aholic prior to surgery. I didn't know how I would survive

with it post-op. But immediately after surgery, I had absolutely no desire

for it. Just the idea of soda just about made my keel over. I couldn't

even consider it.

I was told that the carbonation would tear up my new stomach and I didn't

want to take any chances. My husband still drinks Pepsi around me and it

doesn't really bother me. On occasion, I think that a glass of Pepsi might

be really good, but I have never wanted it enough to actually try it. I

suppose that since I have gone this long without it (3 months) I can live

without it now. It is a mental thing.

Good luck,

M in KC

Coca-Cola

Hi all...

I think my biggest challenge post-op may be that Nectar of the Gods in a red

can, Coca-Cola.

[Guest guest]

At 4:11 PM -0600 11/15/01, Randall Long wrote:

>...

>- Is soda prohibited because it will interfere with weight loss (due to 100%

>sugar absorption),

Yes

>or is there some other gastric/digestive reason?

Yes: Coke (the REAL Coke) is loaded with caffeine. That stimulates

the production of stomach acids. You don't want that to happen while

you are in healing mode.

Also, carbonation is said to be hell on the places where things were

stapled or sewn together.

Sorry, Randy!

--Steve

--

[Guest guest]

Randy I am just like you. I drank soda like crazy pre op, but I

could pass on pie and cake ect...

It is odd---but I didn't even think about soda until 4 weeks out---I

had a sip of my brother in law's coke--and when it fizzed in my

mouth, I got a little scared--so I let it sit there to fizz then

swallowed it. I don't know, but I just don't have the desire for

it.

It really isn't the sugar post op but the carbonation that will kill

you. It guess your smaller tummy could be screaming in discomfort--

when all the fizz is released. I do know this--is that

my " flatulence " is markedly less--preop I was a toot machine--from

all the " gas " I drank!!

Hope this gives you the picture.

Pammi

[Guest guest]

However, my interest in sweet drinks isn't too

great any more.

Same here, Nick! I can have a couple sips of Mikes root beer and then Im

craving my ice water.....I think I much prefer water over other beverages

now!

Judie

[Guest guest]

Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and still lose weight?>>>>

Randy,

Mike has a " real " root beer when we go out to eat but dont buy that stuff

and bring it home. They now have Diet Rite cola with splenda and its quite

tasty but dont count on using any carbonated beverages post opt for awhile

for the reasons Nick outlined. Trust me......sugary stuff will be too sweet

post opt and likely for you too!

Judie

[Guest guest]

I'm a caffeine free Diet Pepsi fiend! Have been for

years. It will be very difficult for me to give that

up, but you have given me hope. thanks

Sandy

--- jward533@... wrote:

>

> > - Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who

> basically lost interest in

> > soda post-op?

>

> I always drank Diet Pepsi but I drank a LOT of it.

> I thought I couldn't live without it. I HATED it

> for months. I'm now almost 8 months out and I can

> have one on occasion, but to be honest I still don't

> like it much. I have diet Vernor's once in a while,

> but mostly just water and some decaf Latte. Almost

> all my other tastes cleared and I like the same

> things I did before. I eat some sweets now but

> never crave them. I think once all that soda was

> out of my body I realized how awful it tasted. LOL

> Hopefully it will work the same for you.

>

> Jackie

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Randy,

I was a total coke-a-holic pre-op. I drank AT LEAST 6 a day, ok, more than

that. Right after surgery, it didn't interest me. Probably about 2 weeks

post-op, I took a tiny sip of my mom's diet coke and it was so good! BUT, it

still freaked me out so I stayed away from it until about 2.5 months

post-op. It's mostly the carbonation, it makes it feel like you're

swallowing rocks. I am now almost 5 months post-op and I would say I have

one coke a day. BUT, I cannot guzzle it like I did before. I take it one sip

at a time and YUM, I love it! I know it's not good for me but one a day

compared to 6+ isn't bad. And I am losing steadily. SO, don't stress about

it!

Jenn

>

>Reply-To: duodenalswitch

>To: " duodenalswitch " <duodenalswitch >

>Subject: Coca-Cola

>Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:11:08 -0600

>

>Hi all...

>

>I think my biggest challenge post-op may be that Nectar of the Gods in a

>red

>can, Coca-Cola.

>

>I seriously like Coke. I think if I was given a choice that I could either

>have all the Coke I wanted but no food, or all the food I wanted but no

>Coke, I'd seriously consider going with the soda. Though I'm not a big

>sugar-eater in general (ice cream, cake, cookies, etc. don't do much for

>me), this one's going to be tough I think.

>

>I've read lots of posts indicating I cannot have sugared sodas post-op. I

>have a couple questions.

>

>- Is soda prohibited because it will interfere with weight loss (due to

>100%

>sugar absorption), or is there some other gastric/digestive reason?

>

>- Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who basically lost interest

>in

>soda post-op? I think this would be the ideal, if I was to just not care

>for it, as I hear is often the case with sugars in general (ice cream,

>etc.).

>

>- Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and still lose weight?

>

>Thanks much for any insight on my dilemma.

>

>--Randy

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Jenn;

Sounds like you're doing great! Keep up the good

work...or play! lol

Sandy

--- Factora wrote:

> Randy,

>

> I was a total coke-a-holic pre-op. I drank AT LEAST

> 6 a day, ok, more than

> that. Right after surgery, it didn't interest me.

> Probably about 2 weeks

> post-op, I took a tiny sip of my mom's diet coke and

> it was so good! BUT, it

> still freaked me out so I stayed away from it until

> about 2.5 months

> post-op. It's mostly the carbonation, it makes it

> feel like you're

> swallowing rocks. I am now almost 5 months post-op

> and I would say I have

> one coke a day. BUT, I cannot guzzle it like I did

> before. I take it one sip

> at a time and YUM, I love it! I know it's not good

> for me but one a day

> compared to 6+ isn't bad. And I am losing steadily.

> SO, don't stress about

> it!

>

> Jenn

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: duodenalswitch

> >To: " duodenalswitch "

> <duodenalswitch >

> >Subject: Coca-Cola

> >Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 16:11:08 -0600

> >

> >Hi all...

> >

> >I think my biggest challenge post-op may be that

> Nectar of the Gods in a

> >red

> >can, Coca-Cola.

> >

> >I seriously like Coke. I think if I was given a

> choice that I could either

> >have all the Coke I wanted but no food, or all the

> food I wanted but no

> >Coke, I'd seriously consider going with the soda.

> Though I'm not a big

> >sugar-eater in general (ice cream, cake, cookies,

> etc. don't do much for

> >me), this one's going to be tough I think.

> >

> >I've read lots of posts indicating I cannot have

> sugared sodas post-op. I

> >have a couple questions.

> >

> >- Is soda prohibited because it will interfere with

> weight loss (due to

> >100%

> >sugar absorption), or is there some other

> gastric/digestive reason?

> >

> >- Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who

> basically lost interest

> >in

> >soda post-op? I think this would be the ideal, if

> I was to just not care

> >for it, as I hear is often the case with sugars in

> general (ice cream,

> >etc.).

> >

> >- Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and

> still lose weight?

> >

> >Thanks much for any insight on my dilemma.

> >

> >--Randy

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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> >

[Guest guest]

Jackie, I am a huge fan of diet pepsi and diet coke.

I drink about 9 cans per day. (I'm home all day but

still I know that's alot!)

Not being allowed my sodas is a minor concern of mine

so it was good to see your post. But, WHY don't you

crave it any longer? Is it all sweets or all

carbonated drinks or is it that thinks taste

differently now?

Thanks,

dee

*************************

Jackie wrote:

I always drank Diet Pepsi but I drank a LOT of it. I

thought I couldn't live without it. I HATED it for

months. I'm now almost 8 months out and I can have

one on occasion, but to be honest I still don't like

it much.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Randy,

I know what you mean! I loved coke...I wanted to bathe in it I loved it so

much....I could put away a 3 liter by myself. Post-op I had soda about 3 weeks

out when water was making naseaous and juice tasted gross. I let the soda go

flat and it calmed my stomach down....Now I have maybe one soda a day most days

I buy some seltzer water....It gives me the feeling of a soda without all the

empty calories and sugar......Soda doesnt hold the appeal it once did I dont

know why and I am not going to try and figure it out!

Lisbeth

Randall Long wrote: Hi all...

I think my biggest challenge post-op may be that Nectar of the Gods in a red

can, Coca-Cola.

I seriously like Coke. I think if I was given a choice that I could either

have all the Coke I wanted but no food, or all the food I wanted but no

Coke, I'd seriously consider going with the soda. Though I'm not a big

sugar-eater in general (ice cream, cake, cookies, etc. don't do much for

me), this one's going to be tough I think.

I've read lots of posts indicating I cannot have sugared sodas post-op. I

have a couple questions.

- Is soda prohibited because it will interfere with weight loss (due to 100%

sugar absorption), or is there some other gastric/digestive reason?

- Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who basically lost interest in

soda post-op? I think this would be the ideal, if I was to just not care

for it, as I hear is often the case with sugars in general (ice cream,

etc.).

- Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and still lose weight?

Thanks much for any insight on my dilemma.

--Randy

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[Guest guest]

Randy,

I am preop, so please no that I have no experience, only common

sense. Weight loss is directly proportional to intake vs required

calories to sustain current body weight. On average, women require

11 calories per pound to maintain their weight. The higher the

muscle mass, the higher the caloric requirement. Everytime you have

a deficit of 3500 calories, you lose a pound. So, If you eat a

krispy kreme, or a candy bar or have a can of coke...(which has the

least amount of sugar calories, btw, if on an average you deficit by

3500 calories, you will lose a pound. Now some will say that they

are losing much more weight than can be accounted for by the 3500

calorie deficit. I will state uncategorically that it is water loss,

and sometimes muscle mass.

So, if daily you are eating your 60-100 grams of protein, and have

one can of coke, I am sure you will lose weight. Now how your

stomach reacts to the carbonation, I have no idea. Just as we will

all malabsorb fat...some can eat it without distress and others will

tell you epochal reviews of their " oil slicks " . The emptiest

calories you can imbibe, and the most dangerous are alcohols. Its

pure sugar, no nutrition, and wacks out your liver. However, a glass

of wine ain't gonna kill you, unless it takes the room of needed

proteins or unless you have a very weak liver to begin with. Would I

recommend it daily? NO..but then I do not play an internet doctor or

nutritionist! However, if a can of coke keeps you on track..i

say... " always coca cola " ! I personally am part of the pepsi

generation! laughing... but carbonated drinks don't like me now!

Hugs,

Theresa

11-19

dr. j

> Hi all...

>

> I think my biggest challenge post-op may be that Nectar of the Gods

in a red

> can, Coca-Cola.

>

> I seriously like Coke. I think if I was given a choice that I

could either

> have all the Coke I wanted but no food, or all the food I wanted

but no

> Coke, I'd seriously consider going with the soda. Though I'm not a

big

> sugar-eater in general (ice cream, cake, cookies, etc. don't do

much for

> me), this one's going to be tough I think.

>

> I've read lots of posts indicating I cannot have sugared sodas post-

op. I

> have a couple questions.

>

> - Is soda prohibited because it will interfere with weight loss

(due to 100%

> sugar absorption), or is there some other gastric/digestive reason?

>

> - Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who basically lost

interest in

> soda post-op? I think this would be the ideal, if I was to just

not care

> for it, as I hear is often the case with sugars in general (ice

cream,

> etc.).

>

> - Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and still lose weight?

>

> Thanks much for any insight on my dilemma.

>

> --Randy

[Guest guest]

I confess.. early postop when my choice was burp or puke, I'd snitch a

sip of my hubby's ever-present Coke (alternately " The Elixor of Life "

or " Liquid Death, " depending on his mood that day). I just cannot

burp w/out carbonation. I have since switched to seltzer water.. no

sugar.. but occasionally I still drink a small amount of Dr. Pepper.

And I still am losing pretty well... altho speed demon AJ is working

on overtaking me, lolol!

Liane

> Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and still lose

weight?>>>>

>

> Randy,

> Mike has a " real " root beer when we go out to eat <snip>

[Guest guest]

i used to be a heavy duty diet pepsi drinker preop. postop, it has

taken several months to be able to drink it again. at first, the

fizz was too much, as well as the nutrasweet just tasting bitter to

me, like the diet soda was past it's expiration date. yuck.

i have had a FEW regular sodas since surgery. but no worries about

becoming addicted to them. i drink water, tea, a little coffee, diet

soda, milk 2% or better, and drank cran-grape juice when i was early

postop and had kidney/bladder pains.

the soda just isn't important anymore. i can really take it or leave

it.

mary y

> Hi all...

>

> I think my biggest challenge post-op may be that Nectar of the Gods

in a red

> can, Coca-Cola.

>

> I seriously like Coke. I think if I was given a choice that I

could either

> have all the Coke I wanted but no food, or all the food I wanted

but no

> Coke, I'd seriously consider going with the soda. Though I'm not a

big

> sugar-eater in general (ice cream, cake, cookies, etc. don't do

much for

> me), this one's going to be tough I think.

>

> I've read lots of posts indicating I cannot have sugared sodas post-

op. I

> have a couple questions.

>

> - Is soda prohibited because it will interfere with weight loss

(due to 100%

> sugar absorption), or is there some other gastric/digestive reason?

>

> - Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who basically lost

interest in

> soda post-op? I think this would be the ideal, if I was to just

not care

> for it, as I hear is often the case with sugars in general (ice

cream,

> etc.).

>

> - Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and still lose weight?

>

> Thanks much for any insight on my dilemma.

>

> --Randy

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/15/01 5:02:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

rlong@... writes:

<< I seriously like Coke. I think if I was given a choice that I could either

have all the Coke I wanted but no food, or all the food I wanted but no

Coke, I'd seriously consider going with the soda. >>

Ha ha as a coke drinker I can relate! Maybe both of us will feel better about

it when our addiction to its caffeine is gone

Sheryl

[Guest guest]

> > Hi all...

> >

> > I think my biggest challenge post-op may be that Nectar of the

Gods

> in a red

> > can, Coca-Cola.

> >

> > I seriously like Coke. I think if I was given a choice that I

> could either

> > have all the Coke I wanted but no food, or all the food I wanted

> but no

> > Coke, I'd seriously consider going with the soda. Though I'm not

a

> big

> > sugar-eater in general (ice cream, cake, cookies, etc. don't do

> much for

> > me), this one's going to be tough I think.

> >

> > I've read lots of posts indicating I cannot have sugared sodas

post-

> op. I

> > have a couple questions.

> >

> > - Is soda prohibited because it will interfere with weight loss

> (due to 100%

> > sugar absorption), or is there some other gastric/digestive

reason?

> >

> > - Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who basically lost

> interest in

> > soda post-op? I think this would be the ideal, if I was to just

> not care

> > for it, as I hear is often the case with sugars in general (ice

> cream,

> > etc.).

> >

> > - Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and still lose

weight?

> >

> > Thanks much for any insight on my dilemma.

> >

> > --Randy

[Guest guest]

Sorry Randall, the true nectar of the God's is Pepsi. ::wink::

Seriously tho, I was a Pepsi hound before surgery. I had a Pepsi

every day with lunch and at least one glass in the evening, sometimes

two (even before surgery I made myself drink 60 ounces of water a day

otherwise I'd prolly have drank even more soda). A two liter bottle

of pop would last me two to three days.

Two weeks after surgery I was DYING for a Pepsi, I wanted one SO

bad. A friend who'd had surgery had told me she had made Pepsi ice

cubes, then mashed them up and poured pepsi over them, let most of

the fizz go out and tried it that way as a sort of slush. I gave it

a try but it was berry much painful! I had difficulty burping post-

op and the Pepsi was just too gassy... that cured my cravings for a

while.

After a couple months I decided to try it again. This time I just

poured it over ice, stirred it a bit to get rid of some of the

carbonation, and it was fine. I burped a lot and it gave me lots of

gas, but mmmmmm, was it ever good.

Now my Pepsi habit is negligable. A ONE liter bottle lasts me TWO

WEEKS! I just don't have the desire for it that I used to but it's

still a necessity for washing down popcorn and things of that type

every once in a while . I haven't lost interest, but I have

changed my habit.

> - Are there any heavy soda-drinkers out there who basically lost

interest in

> soda post-op? I think this would be the ideal, if I was to just

not care

> for it, as I hear is often the case with sugars in general (ice

cream,

> etc.).

>

> - Anyone out there " cheat " on the soda issue and still lose weight?

>

> Thanks much for any insight on my dilemma.

>

> --Randy

[Guest guest]

We could start a program for Coke drinkers...LOL Call

it C.A. instead of A.A. I Love Coke also...sigh...

--- SKeib13337@... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/15/01 5:02:23 PM Eastern

> Standard Time,

> rlong@... writes:

>

> << I seriously like Coke. I think if I was given a

> choice that I could either

> have all the Coke I wanted but no food, or all the

> food I wanted but no

> Coke, I'd seriously consider going with the soda.

> >>

>

> Ha ha as a coke drinker I can relate! Maybe both of

> us will feel better about

> it when our addiction to its caffeine is gone

> Sheryl

>

>

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>