Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

[Guest guest]

Hey Switch Bro,

Thanks so much for saying this. I was only in surgery for about 3.4-4

hours and I have the worst cramps in my hips, its unbelievable. I

wake up cramping up....and can't quite figure out how to get to them

to relieve the pain. It's basically from the pelvic bones down to my

knees on both sides. I will walk, take a muscle relaxant when I am

brave, or just moan but no position relieves it! Can that short of a

time on the or table really cause this???

How is your stomach feeling, btw? I am glad to see you posting!

Hugs,

Theresa

DS 11-19-01

Dr. Jossart

-13#s

(I have ankles and one hip bone! Yeee Haw!)

> I have been experiencing pain in my thighs. Its like being stuck

with

> a needle, I spoke to the surgeon and he said the cause of this was

> being on the OR table for a long period of time.. The pain wakes me

up

> during the night.

>

> S.

> Dr. Macura

> 413 11/19

> 402 11/27

[Guest guest]

Theresa -

Buttin' here with the e-mail to your Switch Bro. I ended up having a pain

in the left lthigh and found out it was a pinched nerve -- heat and muscle

relaxers did the trick. But, what I wonder is . . . perhaps its being

caused from premature " cuddling " . =)

Love,

Kris G

Cincinnati, Ohio

5'7 " , 40 years old

8/22/00 - 283 - BMI 44.3 - Size 22/24

10/22/01 - 138 - BMI 21.6 - Size 4/6

Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks.

ciao to 145 lbs. & 150 inches in 1 year

Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

Bowel obstruction/hernia repair surgery 4/21/01

Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

iwillbefit@...

http://www.newlifeteams.org

Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

| Hey Switch Bro,

|

| Thanks so much for saying this. I was only in surgery for about 3.4-4

| hours and I have the worst cramps in my hips, its unbelievable. I

| wake up cramping up....and can't quite figure out how to get to them

| to relieve the pain. It's basically from the pelvic bones down to my

| knees on both sides. I will walk, take a muscle relaxant when I am

| brave, or just moan but no position relieves it! Can that short of a

| time on the or table really cause this???

|

| How is your stomach feeling, btw? I am glad to see you posting!

|

| Hugs,

| Theresa

| DS 11-19-01

| Dr. Jossart

| -13#s

|

| (I have ankles and one hip bone! Yeee Haw!)

|

|

|

|

| > I have been experiencing pain in my thighs. Its like being stuck

| with

| > a needle, I spoke to the surgeon and he said the cause of this was

| > being on the OR table for a long period of time.. The pain wakes me

| up

| > during the night.

| >

| > S.

| > Dr. Macura

| > 413 11/19

| > 402 11/27

|

|

| ----------------------------------------------------------------------

|

[Guest guest]

I was on the table for 10 and a half hours.

I had diabetes before the surgery....the trauma of the surgery, so two

neurologists have told me, kicked off some fairly severe neuropathy in my

feet and right leg, as well as the small of my back. I have a numb patch

right on the " saddle " of my back, and a lot of numbness and washing pain in

my right foot, as well as patchy numbness up and down my leg. Right after

the surgery it was pretty bad, but has moderated....now, after 16 months, I

still have the numb spot on my back and numb toes and foot, and the

occasional washing pain across my foot. The foot also gets cold REAL

easy....not to the touch, but it FEELS cold, unless I take great care to

keep it very warm.

But it was all diabetes related, they tell me...a parting curse as it

left....I am not diabetic any more since the weight loss.

Ford

Re: Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

Theresa -

Buttin' here with the e-mail to your Switch Bro. I ended up having a pain

in the left lthigh and found out it was a pinched nerve -- heat and muscle

relaxers did the trick. But, what I wonder is . . . perhaps its being

caused from premature " cuddling " . =)

Love,

Kris G

Cincinnati, Ohio

5'7 " , 40 years old

8/22/00 - 283 - BMI 44.3 - Size 22/24

10/22/01 - 138 - BMI 21.6 - Size 4/6

Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks.

ciao to 145 lbs. & 150 inches in 1 year

Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

Bowel obstruction/hernia repair surgery 4/21/01

Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

iwillbefit@...

http://www.newlifeteams.org

Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

| Hey Switch Bro,

|

| Thanks so much for saying this. I was only in surgery for about 3.4-4

| hours and I have the worst cramps in my hips, its unbelievable. I

| wake up cramping up....and can't quite figure out how to get to them

| to relieve the pain. It's basically from the pelvic bones down to my

| knees on both sides. I will walk, take a muscle relaxant when I am

| brave, or just moan but no position relieves it! Can that short of a

| time on the or table really cause this???

|

| How is your stomach feeling, btw? I am glad to see you posting!

|

| Hugs,

| Theresa

| DS 11-19-01

| Dr. Jossart

| -13#s

|

| (I have ankles and one hip bone! Yeee Haw!)

|

|

|

|

| > I have been experiencing pain in my thighs. Its like being stuck

| with

| > a needle, I spoke to the surgeon and he said the cause of this was

| > being on the OR table for a long period of time.. The pain wakes me

| up

| > during the night.

| >

| > S.

| > Dr. Macura

| > 413 11/19

| > 402 11/27

|

|

| ----------------------------------------------------------------------

|

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ford!

Regarding this:

> I am not diabetic any more since the weight loss.

I have a slight, but very important correction. The reason that you

are no longer a diabetic is NOT because of the weight loss, but

because of the unique and somewhat unexplainable action of the D/S

surgery in and of itself. (Please don't make me find the medical

article(s), but I can if you really want it/them!) This surgery is

simply miraculous for you diabetics! I love hearing about how the

disease is CURED by the D/S!

[Guest guest]

Really? I didn't know that...someone (god knows who) told me that I was

diabetic because my body was not able to distribute the insulin

appropriately due to my weight, and that, as I dropped the weight, it would

be better able to do so.

I believe you....especially since I can't even remember who it was that told

me that. All I know is....I don't have diabetes any more.

I used to have high blood pressure, too, but don't any more.

The other thing is that I have Mitral regurgitation...a leaky heart valve. I

was in serious distress before the surgery, and now...well, my cardiologist

did every kind of EKG known to medical science, including a stress test to

see how my heart is doing now, and she tells me that surgery is just not

indicated now. It's not gone, but it's just a minor issue for now.

I told that to Dr Elariny at our monthly meeting...he said " Who knew a

bariatric surgeon was such a good cardiologist? " . I responded that " Everyone

knows the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. "

<snicker>

Ford

Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

Hi, Ford!

Regarding this:

> I am not diabetic any more since the weight loss.

I have a slight, but very important correction. The reason that you

are no longer a diabetic is NOT because of the weight loss, but

because of the unique and somewhat unexplainable action of the D/S

surgery in and of itself. (Please don't make me find the medical

article(s), but I can if you really want it/them!) This surgery is

simply miraculous for you diabetics! I love hearing about how the

disease is CURED by the D/S!

----------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Hi again, Ford.

Maybe someone else will read these messages and tell us what article

the diabetes stuff is found in. It's one of those " benchmarks " that

we've all referred to from time to time. Scorpinaro?

How'd you get the regurgitation? Phen/Fen? I have very, very mild

mitral valve regurgitation myself, quite possibly owing to my having

taken those diet drugs. Gagner picked up on it by hearing a murmur

kind of sound during my examination, and this before I told him about

it. I guess these bariatric surgeons know what kind of danger signs

they wanna be looking for before they commit themselves to the

responsibility of surgery. Makes sense, of course.

Best,

> Really? I didn't know that...someone (god knows who) told me that I

was

> diabetic because my body was not able to distribute the insulin

> appropriately due to my weight, and that, as I dropped the weight,

it would

> be better able to do so.

>

> I believe you....especially since I can't even remember who it was

that told

> me that. All I know is....I don't have diabetes any more.

>

> I used to have high blood pressure, too, but don't any more.

>

> The other thing is that I have Mitral regurgitation...a leaky heart

valve. I

> was in serious distress before the surgery, and now...well, my

cardiologist

> did every kind of EKG known to medical science, including a stress

test to

> see how my heart is doing now, and she tells me that surgery is

just not

> indicated now. It's not gone, but it's just a minor issue for now.

>

> I told that to Dr Elariny at our monthly meeting...he said " Who

knew a

> bariatric surgeon was such a good cardiologist? " . I responded

that " Everyone

> knows the way to a man's heart is through his stomach. "

>

> <snicker>

>

> Ford

>

> Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

>

>

> Hi, Ford!

>

> Regarding this:

>

> > I am not diabetic any more since the weight loss.

>

> I have a slight, but very important correction. The reason that you

> are no longer a diabetic is NOT because of the weight loss, but

> because of the unique and somewhat unexplainable action of the D/S

> surgery in and of itself. (Please don't make me find the medical

> article(s), but I can if you really want it/them!) This surgery is

> simply miraculous for you diabetics! I love hearing about how the

> disease is CURED by the D/S!

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

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>

[Guest guest]

Kris,

Grinning,

I got it before the " cuddling " and ummm, that would not have impacted

for reasons I really don't think anyone wants to hear!

Laughing...but it was a darn good suggestion!

Hugs,

Theresa

DS 11-19-01

Dr. Jossart

-13#s

(I have ankles and one hip bone! Yeee Haw!)

> | > I have been experiencing pain in my thighs. Its like being stuck

> | with

> | > a needle, I spoke to the surgeon and he said the cause of this

was

> | > being on the OR table for a long period of time.. The pain

wakes me

> | up

> | > during the night.

> | >

> | > S.

> | > Dr. Macura

> | > 413 11/19

> | > 402 11/27

> |

> |

> | ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> |

[Guest guest]

I don't know how I picked up the Mitral Regurgitation....possibly as a

complication of my Congestive Heart Failure. I had moved to Virginia, and

was making myself known to the doctors at the VA, where I was going for

medical care at the time (oh, lord....) and one day while I was in for an

appointment, I felt WAY worse than usual, more tired, more short of breath,

more generally ill. Finally I got a

doctor to look at me, and my heart rate was 160. They admitted me

immediately. I was in for 4 days, and gained new meds to keep the heart rate

down.

That was when I knew that I had to do something about my weight. They told

me I was gonna be dead in five years if I didn't.

Ford

Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

>

>

> Hi, Ford!

>

> Regarding this:

>

> > I am not diabetic any more since the weight loss.

>

> I have a slight, but very important correction. The reason that you

> are no longer a diabetic is NOT because of the weight loss, but

> because of the unique and somewhat unexplainable action of the D/S

> surgery in and of itself. (Please don't make me find the medical

> article(s), but I can if you really want it/them!) This surgery is

> simply miraculous for you diabetics! I love hearing about how the

> disease is CURED by the D/S!

>

>

>

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

--

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Ford,

I have had that cold foot thing going on since my last hospital visit

for my knee! Man is that a pain in the foot!

Hugs,

Theresa

DS 11-19-01

Dr. Jossart

-13#s

(I have ankles and one hip bone! Yeee Haw!)

> | > I have been experiencing pain in my thighs. Its like being stuck

> | with

> | > a needle, I spoke to the surgeon and he said the cause of this

was

> | > being on the OR table for a long period of time.. The pain

wakes me

> | up

> | > during the night.

> | >

> | > S.

> | > Dr. Macura

> | > 413 11/19

> | > 402 11/27

> |

> |

> | ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> |

[Guest guest]

Yeah....my wife asks me if it doesn't drive me crazy. I tell her it doesn't

bother me as much as being dead would.

Ford

Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

Thanks Ford,

I have had that cold foot thing going on since my last hospital visit

for my knee! Man is that a pain in the foot!

Hugs,

Theresa

DS 11-19-01

Dr. Jossart

-13#s

(I have ankles and one hip bone! Yeee Haw!)

> | > I have been experiencing pain in my thighs. Its like being stuck

> | with

> | > a needle, I spoke to the surgeon and he said the cause of this

was

> | > being on the OR table for a long period of time.. The pain

wakes me

> | up

> | > during the night.

> | >

> | > S.

> | > Dr. Macura

> | > 413 11/19

> | > 402 11/27

> |

> |

> | ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> |

[Guest guest]

Hi Theresa,

The surgery went well. It was a shock to my system. I was in recovery

for 24 hrs. BP sky high.

Ive been home since 11/23. I cant sleep at night because of the pins

& needles in my thighs.

Dr Macura said that I spent 3 1/2 hrs on the table and this, with

laying down in recovery causes this feeling.

I have no problem eating or drinking. I'm burping, pleanty of gas but

knock wood, 1 BM in am. I dont know if this will change but Im not

complaining.

I hope everything turned out great for you. Let me know.

S

Dr Macura

413 lbs Post Op 11/19/01

402 lbs down 11 11/27/01

pensiondude@...

> Hey Switch Bro,

>

> Thanks so much for saying this. I was only in surgery for about

3.4-4

> hours and I have the worst cramps in my hips, its unbelievable. I

> wake up cramping up....and can't quite figure out how to get to them

> to relieve the pain. It's basically from the pelvic bones down to

my

> knees on both sides. I will walk, take a muscle relaxant when I am

> brave, or just moan but no position relieves it! Can that short of

a

> time on the or table really cause this???

>

> How is your stomach feeling, btw? I am glad to see you posting!

>

> Hugs,

> Theresa

> DS 11-19-01

> Dr. Jossart

> -13#s

>

> (I have ankles and one hip bone! Yeee Haw!)

[Guest guest]

I would buy in to this explanation of leg pain except for the fact that I

had it before surgery.

Best-

Nick

Re: Pins and Needles & Cramps, Oh my!!!

> Hey Switch Bro,

>

> Thanks so much for saying this. I was only in surgery for about 3.4-4

> hours and I have the worst cramps in my hips, its unbelievable. I

> wake up cramping up....and can't quite figure out how to get to them

> to relieve the pain. It's basically from the pelvic bones down to my

> knees on both sides. I will walk, take a muscle relaxant when I am

> brave, or just moan but no position relieves it! Can that short of a

> time on the or table really cause this???

>

> How is your stomach feeling, btw? I am glad to see you posting!

>

> Hugs,

> Theresa

> DS 11-19-01

> Dr. Jossart

> -13#s

>

> (I have ankles and one hip bone! Yeee Haw!)

>

>

>

>

> > I have been experiencing pain in my thighs. Its like being stuck

> with

> > a needle, I spoke to the surgeon and he said the cause of this was

> > being on the OR table for a long period of time.. The pain wakes me

> up

> > during the night.

> >

> > S.

> > Dr. Macura

> > 413 11/19

> > 402 11/27

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>