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ee - I felt the same way when Hayden was nursing, like I couldn't get

enough to eat, so pretty much snacked all day. One of my favorites for

breakfast was a big bowl of yogurt with Mueslix mixed into it (the raisin/almond

one)...it was easy to eat with one hand because it didn't drip and had nuts and

fruit in it. If Garrison is okay with dairy in your system and you like those

things, you could try them. I tried protein bars for a little extra oomph, but

they upset Hayden's digestive tract quite a bit, so I had to cut them out.

In terms of eggs, one way around the cooking factor is to boil up a bunch, if

you liked boiled eggs. Also I have these great little microwave poachers that

are quick (around a minute and a half) and could probably manage to do for

you. Let me know if you want some and I'll pick them up because the store is

just down the street from me.

What else...? I always was happy when there was something like leftover steak

or chicken in the fridge because I could cut it into bite size pieces and eat it

while I was nursing. As long as you don't mind cold meat.

What about cheese sticks or Babybel? Quick and easy! I'm just goin' through

the list here...umm...unsalted almonds? Granola bars? You're probably drinking

a lot of water, but that was a biggie for me too.

You know the experts say you only need an additional 500 calories for nursing

but I beg to differ. Those people obviously never nursed a chunk like Hayden or

Garrison (who looks way bigger than three months in the pictures you've sent!)

I felt depleted for the first six months at least.

Hang in there and keep us posted!

number23 wrote: With so

many brains to tap here I thought I'd ask your thoughts on this - nursing my

baby is sucking me dry. I mean nutritionally speaking I feel like he's eating

ME out of house and home. I am hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making

plenty of milk but it's definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel

diabetic half the time. Any ideas what I should be eating more of and what a

simple source of that would be? I have heard to eat more eggs but eggs are not

very convienient to just stop and cook in the middle of something I'm

doing...then all the kids want eggs with me and I end up cooking for them and

cleaning up their mess more than I get to eat my own food - OK, that goes for

all food here, not just eggs. You know how it goes - mothers end up eating on

the run and living off their kid's leftovers. I take my vitimins but they

aren't helping much.

thanks,

s.

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ee, thanks for posting this. I was telling my husband yesterday

that ever since Ethan was born I crave milk and cheese. I've had

cereal at least once a day since March. Thank goodness I can

tolerate dairy! But I seem to lack in many of the other food groups.

Does anyone know if those Luna Bars are any good?

Thanks!

>

> With so many brains to tap here I thought I'd ask your thoughts on

this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I mean nutritionally

speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I am

hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but

it's definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel diabetic

half the time. Any ideas what I should be eating more of and what

a simple source of that would be? I have heard to eat more eggs but

eggs are not very convienient to just stop and cook in the middle of

something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me and I end

up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to

eat my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs.

You know how it goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living

off their kid's leftovers. I take my vitimins but they aren't

helping much.

>

> thanks,

> s.

>

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And you know what's great during the summer, fresh fruit - esp. good

during summer cuz it's actually good quality and affordable. When I

was nursing Grace during those first few summer months (it was the

hottest summer on record since something like 1964, excruciating! And

because we are usually only hot for a couple of mo's out of the yr,

no one really has air conditioning ugh) I would cut up a huge bowl of

fresh fruit because eating an apple whole or having to cut up or peel

an orange or a kiwi was not as easy as say grabing a peice of fudge

cake or some chips haha. I would cut up all my favs and just snack on

that all day long. I really found that cut up fruit in a bowl (which

I would eat with a fork, made it sooo much better for some reason

lol?) was so satisfying and would really give me an energy boost! I

bet your kids would start eating lots more fruit if they saw momma

eating it too :) I would also feel amazing after eating sushi but I

would venture to guess that you don't have any decent sushi joints

out there in OK haha, you'll have to come out here for that hint

hint!!

Hugs and hope you get some good advise and start feeling more

energized soon......I have seen pics of Garrison and he is HUGE, no

wonder you're feelin tired!

& Grace

>

> With so many brains to tap here I thought I'd ask your thoughts on

this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I mean nutritionally

speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I am

hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but

it's definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel diabetic

half the time. Any ideas what I should be eating more of and what a

simple source of that would be? I have heard to eat more eggs but

eggs are not very convienient to just stop and cook in the middle of

something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me and I end

up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to eat

my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs. You

know how it goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living off

their kid's leftovers. I take my vitimins but they aren't helping

much.

>

> thanks,

> s.

>

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ee, a lot of times they say a mom feels like that when breastfeeding

because of lowered iron levels. My doctor actually recommended that I eat more

red meat. Spinach works too, of course, but some babies feel the effects of the

spinach (constipation, cramps)

Cohen wrote: ee - I felt the same

way when Hayden was nursing, like I couldn't get enough to eat, so pretty much

snacked all day. One of my favorites for breakfast was a big bowl of yogurt with

Mueslix mixed into it (the raisin/almond one)...it was easy to eat with one hand

because it didn't drip and had nuts and fruit in it. If Garrison is okay with

dairy in your system and you like those things, you could try them. I tried

protein bars for a little extra oomph, but they upset Hayden's digestive tract

quite a bit, so I had to cut them out.

In terms of eggs, one way around the cooking factor is to boil up a bunch, if

you liked boiled eggs. Also I have these great little microwave poachers that

are quick (around a minute and a half) and could probably manage to do for

you. Let me know if you want some and I'll pick them up because the store is

just down the street from me.

What else...? I always was happy when there was something like leftover steak or

chicken in the fridge because I could cut it into bite size pieces and eat it

while I was nursing. As long as you don't mind cold meat.

What about cheese sticks or Babybel? Quick and easy! I'm just goin' through the

list here...umm...unsalted almonds? Granola bars? You're probably drinking a lot

of water, but that was a biggie for me too.

You know the experts say you only need an additional 500 calories for nursing

but I beg to differ. Those people obviously never nursed a chunk like Hayden or

Garrison (who looks way bigger than three months in the pictures you've sent!) I

felt depleted for the first six months at least.

Hang in there and keep us posted!

number23 wrote: With so many brains to tap here I

thought I'd ask your thoughts on this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I

mean nutritionally speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I

am hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but it's

definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel diabetic half the time. Any

ideas what I should be eating more of and what a simple source of that would be?

I have heard to eat more eggs but eggs are not very convienient to just stop and

cook in the middle of something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me

and I end up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to eat

my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs. You know how it

goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living off their kid's leftovers. I

take my vitimins but they aren't helping much.

thanks,

s.

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I felt like this too up until Lilee was about 6 months old, and Im still a

little tired now. I was borderline Anemic, but they recently checked, and Im not

now. I wouldnt do the Granola Bar thing. I did that and pack on quite a bit of

weight! I would try the cereal, left overs, and fruit. I know about the cold

food as I dont think I ever get a hot meal! I drink alot of Caffeen too thats

not good for my weight either, and it doesnt help much anyhow.

Christee

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**Aspen (6)~ Bilateral Metatarsus Adductus

***Dylan (4)~PTSD/Anxiety

****Lilee (10 months)~A-Typical ®

*P/M Brace 10/24 by request of Dr. P

*Special tongue pads f/ due to chubbyness of foot

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sushi???????????????/ lol!

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And you know what's great during the summer, fresh fruit - esp. good

during summer cuz it's actually good quality and affordable. When I

was nursing Grace during those first few summer months (it was the

hottest summer on record since something like 1964, excruciating! And

because we are usually only hot for a couple of mo's out of the yr,

no one really has air conditioning ugh) I would cut up a huge bowl of

fresh fruit because eating an apple whole or having to cut up or peel

an orange or a kiwi was not as easy as say grabing a peice of fudge

cake or some chips haha. I would cut up all my favs and just snack on

that all day long. I really found that cut up fruit in a bowl (which

I would eat with a fork, made it sooo much better for some reason

lol?) was so satisfying and would really give me an energy boost! I

bet your kids would start eating lots more fruit if they saw momma

eating it too :) I would also feel amazing after eating sushi but I

would venture to guess that you don't have any decent sushi joints

out there in OK haha, you'll have to come out here for that hint

hint!!

Hugs and hope you get some good advise and start feeling more

energized soon......I have seen pics of Garrison and he is HUGE, no

wonder you're feelin tired!

& Grace

>

> With so many brains to tap here I thought I'd ask your thoughts on

this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I mean nutritionally

speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I am

hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but

it's definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel diabetic

half the time. Any ideas what I should be eating more of and what a

simple source of that would be? I have heard to eat more eggs but

eggs are not very convienient to just stop and cook in the middle of

something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me and I end

up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to eat

my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs. You

know how it goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living off

their kid's leftovers. I take my vitimins but they aren't helping

much.

>

> thanks,

> s.

>

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Re: OT - nursing moms

ee, a lot of times they say a mom feels like that when breastfeeding

because of lowered iron levels. My doctor actually recommended that I eat more

red meat. Spinach works too, of course, but some babies feel the effects of the

spinach (constipation, cramps)

Cohen wrote: ee - I felt the same way

when Hayden was nursing, like I couldn't get enough to eat, so pretty much

snacked all day. One of my favorites for breakfast was a big bowl of yogurt with

Mueslix mixed into it (the raisin/almond one)...it was easy to eat with one hand

because it didn't drip and had nuts and fruit in it. If Garrison is okay with

dairy in your system and you like those things, you could try them. I tried

protein bars for a little extra oomph, but they upset Hayden's digestive tract

quite a bit, so I had to cut them out.

In terms of eggs, one way around the cooking factor is to boil up a bunch, if

you liked boiled eggs. Also I have these great little microwave poachers that

are quick (around a minute and a half) and could probably manage to do for

you. Let me know if you want some and I'll pick them up because the store is

just down the street from me.

What else...? I always was happy when there was something like leftover steak

or chicken in the fridge because I could cut it into bite size pieces and eat it

while I was nursing. As long as you don't mind cold meat.

What about cheese sticks or Babybel? Quick and easy! I'm just goin' through

the list here...umm...unsalted almonds? Granola bars? You're probably drinking a

lot of water, but that was a biggie for me too.

You know the experts say you only need an additional 500 calories for nursing

but I beg to differ. Those people obviously never nursed a chunk like Hayden or

Garrison (who looks way bigger than three months in the pictures you've sent!) I

felt depleted for the first six months at least.

Hang in there and keep us posted!

number23 wrote: With so many brains to tap here I

thought I'd ask your thoughts on this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I

mean nutritionally speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I

am hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but it's

definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel diabetic half the time. Any

ideas what I should be eating more of and what a simple source of that would be?

I have heard to eat more eggs but eggs are not very convienient to just stop and

cook in the middle of something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me

and I end up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to eat

my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs. You know how it

goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living off their kid's leftovers. I

take my vitimins but they aren't helping much.

thanks,

s.

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caffeine...mothers little helper.....mmmmm yummy......me lives on

coffee......hahaha

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I felt like this too up until Lilee was about 6 months old, and Im still a

little tired now. I was borderline Anemic, but they recently checked, and Im not

now. I wouldnt do the Granola Bar thing. I did that and pack on quite a bit of

weight! I would try the cereal, left overs, and fruit. I know about the cold

food as I dont think I ever get a hot meal! I drink alot of Caffeen too thats

not good for my weight either, and it doesnt help much anyhow.

Christee

Mother of...

*Josh (9)~Learning/Speech Delays

**Aspen (6)~ Bilateral Metatarsus Adductus

***Dylan (4)~PTSD/Anxiety

****Lilee (10 months)~A-Typical ®

*P/M Brace 10/24 by request of Dr. P

*Special tongue pads f/ due to chubbyness of foot

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thanks for the suggestions

Re: OT - nursing moms

ee - I felt the same way when Hayden was nursing, like I couldn't get

enough to eat, so pretty much snacked all day. One of my favorites for breakfast

was a big bowl of yogurt with Mueslix mixed into it (the raisin/almond one)...it

was easy to eat with one hand because it didn't drip and had nuts and fruit in

it. If Garrison is okay with dairy in your system and you like those things, you

could try them. I tried protein bars for a little extra oomph, but they upset

Hayden's digestive tract quite a bit, so I had to cut them out.

In terms of eggs, one way around the cooking factor is to boil up a bunch, if

you liked boiled eggs. Also I have these great little microwave poachers that

are quick (around a minute and a half) and could probably manage to do for

you. Let me know if you want some and I'll pick them up because the store is

just down the street from me.

What else...? I always was happy when there was something like leftover steak

or chicken in the fridge because I could cut it into bite size pieces and eat it

while I was nursing. As long as you don't mind cold meat.

What about cheese sticks or Babybel? Quick and easy! I'm just goin' through

the list here...umm...unsalted almonds? Granola bars? You're probably drinking a

lot of water, but that was a biggie for me too.

You know the experts say you only need an additional 500 calories for nursing

but I beg to differ. Those people obviously never nursed a chunk like Hayden or

Garrison (who looks way bigger than three months in the pictures you've sent!) I

felt depleted for the first six months at least.

Hang in there and keep us posted!

number23 wrote: With so many brains to tap here I

thought I'd ask your thoughts on this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I

mean nutritionally speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I

am hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but it's

definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel diabetic half the time. Any

ideas what I should be eating more of and what a simple source of that would be?

I have heard to eat more eggs but eggs are not very convienient to just stop and

cook in the middle of something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me

and I end up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to eat

my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs. You know how it

goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living off their kid's leftovers. I

take my vitimins but they aren't helping much.

thanks,

s.

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Hey ee, I feel your pain about hunger and not enough time to

get stuff together to eat. is almost 8 months old, weighs 23

pounds, gets no formula and eats about a teaspoon of solids a day so

it is all my milk. (She isn't too interested in solids yet.) It is

much better now, though, than when she was Garrison's age. I

actually need to lose weight and am doing Weight Watchers...go

figure! I woulda thought by now she would have sucked all the fat

off me and onto her! Anyway, this is about you, not about me. LOL

Nuts are great to grab and go. They supply so much protein,

nutrients, etc in a portable and easily eaten package with no clean

up. I would avoid peanuts, though, because of the link to peanut

allergies later on for babies who were exposed to peanuts through

breastmilk. Almonds and cashews are good. I also like to make a

cashew butter and honey sandwich for a snack. Maybe you could make

a big batch of " trail mix " with whatever nuts, cereals, dried fruits

you like so you can have it on hand. I have always kept almonds in

my purse because they are a nice portable, small and healthy snack I

could eat or give my kids. That is my main suggestion. That and

bananas, since they are filling, easy to eat and nutritious. I have

to avoid most dairy while nursing since it gives her eczema

but otherwise I would eat cheese sticks.

Carol

>

> With so many brains to tap here I thought I'd ask your thoughts on

this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I mean nutritionally

speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I am

hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but

it's definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel diabetic

half the time. Any ideas what I should be eating more of and what

a simple source of that would be? I have heard to eat more eggs but

eggs are not very convienient to just stop and cook in the middle of

something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me and I end

up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to

eat my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs.

You know how it goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living

off their kid's leftovers. I take my vitimins but they aren't

helping much.

>

> thanks,

> s.

>

>

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I would suggest brown rice -- it is very nutritious and very

filling -- you can make a big batch and it keeps for a while in the

fridge. I like to use a steamer so I don't have to monitor it on

the stove. Brown rice is good with eggs or with peas or with both.

If your baby tolerates beans, I like to throw in a can of beans with

it in the microwave -- instant meal and pretty good with cheese on

top too!

I don't think it's unusual to feel like your blood sugar is

plummeting when your nursing -- brown rice is a whole grain so it

might help a lot as whole grains don't have that sugar bomb effect

that potatoes and pasta do. I use Lundberg brown rice -- it is a

lot tastier and better quality than the other stuff you might find

in the grocery store.

Best of luck to you!

t

(Mom to Max, 8/03, bilateral CF)

> >

> > With so many brains to tap here I thought I'd ask your thoughts

on

> this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I mean nutritionally

> speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I am

> hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but

> it's definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel

diabetic

> half the time. Any ideas what I should be eating more of and

what

> a simple source of that would be? I have heard to eat more eggs

but

> eggs are not very convienient to just stop and cook in the middle

of

> something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me and I

end

> up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to

> eat my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs.

> You know how it goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living

> off their kid's leftovers. I take my vitimins but they aren't

> helping much.

> >

> > thanks,

> > s.

> >

> >

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I didn't know about the penut allergy thing, I eat penut butter often.

s.

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Hey ee, I feel your pain about hunger and not enough time to

get stuff together to eat. is almost 8 months old, weighs 23

pounds, gets no formula and eats about a teaspoon of solids a day so

it is all my milk. (She isn't too interested in solids yet.) It is

much better now, though, than when she was Garrison's age. I

actually need to lose weight and am doing Weight Watchers...go

figure! I woulda thought by now she would have sucked all the fat

off me and onto her! Anyway, this is about you, not about me. LOL

Nuts are great to grab and go. They supply so much protein,

nutrients, etc in a portable and easily eaten package with no clean

up. I would avoid peanuts, though, because of the link to peanut

allergies later on for babies who were exposed to peanuts through

breastmilk. Almonds and cashews are good. I also like to make a

cashew butter and honey sandwich for a snack. Maybe you could make

a big batch of " trail mix " with whatever nuts, cereals, dried fruits

you like so you can have it on hand. I have always kept almonds in

my purse because they are a nice portable, small and healthy snack I

could eat or give my kids. That is my main suggestion. That and

bananas, since they are filling, easy to eat and nutritious. I have

to avoid most dairy while nursing since it gives her eczema

but otherwise I would eat cheese sticks.

Carol

>

> With so many brains to tap here I thought I'd ask your thoughts on

this - nursing my baby is sucking me dry. I mean nutritionally

speaking I feel like he's eating ME out of house and home. I am

hungry all the time, feel run down...I'm making plenty of milk but

it's definately taking a toll on my own nutrition. I feel diabetic

half the time. Any ideas what I should be eating more of and what

a simple source of that would be? I have heard to eat more eggs but

eggs are not very convienient to just stop and cook in the middle of

something I'm doing...then all the kids want eggs with me and I end

up cooking for them and cleaning up their mess more than I get to

eat my own food - OK, that goes for all food here, not just eggs.

You know how it goes - mothers end up eating on the run and living

off their kid's leftovers. I take my vitimins but they aren't

helping much.

>

> thanks,

> s.

>

>

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--- Carol wrote:

> Hey ee, I feel your pain about hunger and not enough time to

> get stuff together to eat. is almost 8 months old, weighs 23

> pounds, gets no formula and eats about a teaspoon of solids a day so

> it is all my milk. (She isn't too interested in solids yet.) It is

> much better now, though, than when she was Garrison's age. I

> actually need to lose weight and am doing Weight Watchers...go

> figure! I woulda thought by now she would have sucked all the fat

> off me and onto her! Anyway, this is about you, not about me. LOL

LOL... Yeah for some reason I seem to be growing right along with my chubster.

Grant is over 25 pounds at 8 + months, and he's not eating solids yet. You'd

think, like you said, some of that would just magically disappear or something.

LOL

> Nuts are great to grab and go. They supply so much protein,

> nutrients, etc in a portable and easily eaten package with no clean

> up. I would avoid peanuts, though, because of the link to peanut

> allergies later on for babies who were exposed to peanuts through

> breastmilk. Almonds and cashews are good. I also like to make a

> cashew butter and honey sandwich for a snack. Maybe you could make

> a big batch of " trail mix " with whatever nuts, cereals, dried fruits

> you like so you can have it on hand. I have always kept almonds in

> my purse because they are a nice portable, small and healthy snack I

> could eat or give my kids. That is my main suggestion. That and

> bananas, since they are filling, easy to eat and nutritious. I have

> to avoid most dairy while nursing since it gives her eczema

> but otherwise I would eat cheese sticks.

Almonds, etc are a great snack idea. Also, ee mentioned eggs, and I like

hard-boiled eggs to supply a quick protein snack.

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Last summer, nursing Everett - I got so darn skinny it was freaky. I've seen

old momma dogs like that, all skin and bones ya know nursing a litter of pups.

That was me. Garrison is past 3 months old and he's taken quite a bit off me

already. Sure seems like a lot longer than 3 months though. More like a year

with all the other complications and losing mom. Seems like a long, long time

ago.

s.

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--- Carol wrote:

> Hey ee, I feel your pain about hunger and not enough time to

> get stuff together to eat. is almost 8 months old, weighs 23

> pounds, gets no formula and eats about a teaspoon of solids a day so

> it is all my milk. (She isn't too interested in solids yet.) It is

> much better now, though, than when she was Garrison's age. I

> actually need to lose weight and am doing Weight Watchers...go

> figure! I woulda thought by now she would have sucked all the fat

> off me and onto her! Anyway, this is about you, not about me. LOL

LOL... Yeah for some reason I seem to be growing right along with my chubster.

Grant is over 25 pounds at 8 + months, and he's not eating solids yet. You'd

think, like you said, some of that would just magically disappear or

something.

LOL

> Nuts are great to grab and go. They supply so much protein,

> nutrients, etc in a portable and easily eaten package with no clean

> up. I would avoid peanuts, though, because of the link to peanut

> allergies later on for babies who were exposed to peanuts through

> breastmilk. Almonds and cashews are good. I also like to make a

> cashew butter and honey sandwich for a snack. Maybe you could make

> a big batch of " trail mix " with whatever nuts, cereals, dried fruits

> you like so you can have it on hand. I have always kept almonds in

> my purse because they are a nice portable, small and healthy snack I

> could eat or give my kids. That is my main suggestion. That and

> bananas, since they are filling, easy to eat and nutritious. I have

> to avoid most dairy while nursing since it gives her eczema

> but otherwise I would eat cheese sticks.

Almonds, etc are a great snack idea. Also, ee mentioned eggs, and I like

hard-boiled eggs to supply a quick protein snack.

Joy

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