please please need help for my son

[Guest guest]

Hello-- I am not yet to the GFCF point yet, but I have a question for

you because I think you may have the answer. My son is almost five,

and when he was 3, we put him on acidophilus/lacobacillus/bifidus

supplement and l-glutamine, and he had the yeast die off effect

immediately.

We did a Great Smokies stool analysis which said " yeast many " .

Then I would periodically notice a red ring around his anal area. We

recently put him on nystatin 500000 IU's, one tablet twice a day. I

did not notice a yeast die off effect... he was also taking Peptizyme

digestive enzyme, and I think the enzyme made him crazy and around

day 27, I stopped the enzyme. He still stayed his usual sensory-

integration dysfunction self. So now he has been off nystatin for

one week.

Every month, he has always screamed about HOT bm's... swears they are

HOT HOT HOT. This lasts about 4 days, and is accompanied by

increased symptoms of wacky behavior and hyperness. THen, he returns

to normal.

Questions: is the red ring a classic yeast sign or could it be

something else going on??

is this once a month thing normal for a kid with a yeast problem? I

don't know what to make of it??

And sometimes when I change his little sis's diaper, I see redness

around her anal opening too, and in the fold of her skin tonight,

near her privates, there was a redness. So does this mean she has

yeast problems??

I have asked this question on many boards related to SI, autism,

enzymes, etc. I am hoping hoping that someone here can relate to

this.

Desperately yours,

W

[Guest guest]

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> Questions: is the red ring a classic yeast sign or could it be

> something else going on??

My son had this and in addition would get burning rashes frequently.

He was casein free for a year (and I did notice other differences),

but when I finally took gluten away 2 months ago, the red ring never

came back and he hasn't had ANY rashes.

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> And sometimes when I change his little sis's diaper, I see redness

> around her anal opening too, and in the fold of her skin tonight,

> near her privates, there was a redness. So does this mean she has

> yeast problems??

My NT daughter also has this and I just took gluten away this week

(she never had casein), so I will see if it improves.

They say it takes a long time for the differences to be noticed when

you go gluten free (about 6 mo or so). Some kids maybe sooner, but I

have definitely noticed a major difference in the BM department. Even

the frequency changed from 3-4 times per day to 1 time per day.

Jane

Mama to 4 1/2 yrs (PDD-NOS) and 17 mo

[Guest guest]

A few ideas for you.

I tried Peptizyde enzyme and was not gfcf. It works for many people,

but I am celiac and it made me much worse. I had a major nasty

withdrawal period. You can consider that either 1. your child was

going thru a withdrawal period and the enzyme was actually helping

him, or 2. your child is celiac and that enzyme unmasked that, or 3.

your child reacted to the L-glutamine [see below] and now the new

formulation does not have that ingredient so you can consider trying

it again.

Here is my celiac information.

http://www.celiac.com/index.html

Red ring can be yeast, food allergy, or celiac DH. If you go to the

DH page on the celiac site, at the bottom are photos of different

manifestations of DH.

What type of yeast did your son test for? Some types do not respond

to Nystatin, you have to use a different medication. If you saw

die-off with probiotics, but not with Nystatin, plus the red anal

ring, I would guess a different type of yeast is involved.

What was the die-off you saw with the probiotics? Was it just a hyper

reaction to the L-glutamine [which many children have] and not die-off

at all? Or are you sure it was die-off.

I have had what I would term " hot bms " also. I can generally pinpoint

a specific grouping of foods which cause this. Do you eat a special

meal each month? Or something environmental, like you go to the bank

once each month, or his school has an activity, or something like

that? He might be encountering mold in the air/carpet of a building,

or an activity including something he is sensitive to, or something

like that.

Well I hope something here helps.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Thank you Dana...

No, there is no food that he's eating monthly-- I'm not that

organized. LOL! I don't think L glut causes him hyperactivity. We

did the L glut and probiotics-- when I would administer them, within

a half hour he would be hyper wild spazzy making noises moving

wildly. Then by the next day, he'd be back to usual. Then I'd

readminister the probiotics again, and same thing, ... this went on

like this for a few days. He stayed on L glut and probiotics and was

just " fine " after those few days.

Periodically, I get lax and forget to do them, and so when we restart

them, nothing like that happens again.

I'll check out the celiac info. Thank you!

W