Re: Help- Eating too Much, Plateau?

[Guest guest]

Hi Amy,

I wouldn't worry too much. You've lost a lot of weight in a short

period of time. I think your body is just taking a break. For 3 weeks

in my 4th month I lost only 4 pounds. The next week I lost 4 1/2

pounds. I bet you'll experience another drop real soon. Did you weigh

at your current weight in the past for any length of time? That's where

I usually plateau.

Keep up the good work and don't despair!

Kathleen F

Open Duodenal Switch

Drs. Rabkin/Jossart

01/02/01 - 374#

11/19/01: 233#

http://www.webniche.com/wls/

> Hi all-

>

>..snip..

>

> I am 4 3/4 months out- surgery on July 6th 2001. I started out at

> 326 with a BMI of 47-ish. For the past month or so I have been

> bouncing around between 237 and 245. The lowest I've gotten is 235

> but it didn't stick. All in all I've lost about 3 lbs this month as

> at the end of last month I was bouncing around between 240 and 245.

>

> ..snip..

>

> Amy Y.

> Fremont, CA

> DS July 6, 2001

> Rabkin/Jossart

> BMI 47, now 34

[Guest guest]

Hello,

I am not post-op. I am having surgery in January. In

Delano with DR. K. I was told that I should not drink

any carbonated drinks for at least a year or o.k.d my

my Doc. I love coke but that is one of the things I

have to give up. Dee told me that the carbonation

would pre-maturely strecth my new stomach. Don't know

if that helps any or not. Good Luck!!

--- ayasud@... wrote:

> Hi all-

>

> Well, I've been really down lately because my weight

> loss seems to

> have ground to a halt.

>

> I am 4 3/4 months out- surgery on July 6th 2001. I

> started out at

> 326 with a BMI of 47-ish. For the past month or so

> I have been

> bouncing around between 237 and 245. The lowest

> I've gotten is 235

> but it didn't stick. All in all I've lost about 3

> lbs this month as

> at the end of last month I was bouncing around

> between 240 and 245.

>

> I don't know what I am doing wrong. I am exercising

> alot- hiking,

> going to the gym, walking, biking.

>

> I think I can just eat way too much. Today I had a

> beef & cheddar

> sandwich from Arbys- I magaed to eat almost the

> whole thing and just

> threw away a few bites of bread. I also had a slice

> and a half of

> pizza. I also ate some beef teriyaki-not a whole

> order but maybe a

> cup of the beef with a few bites of rice and salad.

>

> I feel like I am eating a ton and maybe this is why

> I am not losing.

>

> Maybe you all can help me out and tell me what one

> would normally eat

> at 4-5 months post-op and does my food consumption

> sound off.

>

> Oh, I also avoid sweets and do not drink sweetened

> beverages of any

> kind. I do not eat fruit. I drink lots of tea and

> water and diet

> coke.

>

> This is really bumming me out. I am so scared that

> this is it for me.

>

> I know this issue has been addressed a million times

> and i have

> faithfully poured over the archives, but I could

> really use some

> support and encouragement right now.

>

> Amy Y.

> Fremont, CA

> DS July 6, 2001

> Rabkin/Jossart

> BMI 47, now 34

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/22/01 6:47:10 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<<

I think I can just eat way too much. Today I had a beef & cheddar

sandwich from Arbys- I magaed to eat almost the whole thing and just

threw away a few bites of bread. I also had a slice and a half of

pizza. I also ate some beef teriyaki-not a whole order but maybe a

cup of the beef with a few bites of rice and salad.

I feel like I am eating a ton and maybe this is why I am not losing.

>>

Amy: I know how you feel - you may think you're eating a lot, but honestly

that isn't too much, especially since you're so active and exercising! You

also seem to be focusing on protein while having a little carbs on the

side... Sounds great to me!!!

I think you're just on a plateau and this can occur no matter how much

exercise you do or how little one eats (actually, eating less will put one's

body into 'starvation mode' and it will be more prone to plateau, I think).

I went through quite a few of these (as has every post-op) and wondered 'is

this IT? What am I doing WRONG?' It is just your body trying to adjust,

hon. I've even GAINED weight when on plateaus --- anywhere from 2-4 lbs!!!

Then, it gets lost again and I progress downwards...

This, too, shall pass! Keep up the great work!

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

almost 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 201 lbs/size sweet 16/large in normal people's clothing!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/22/01 3:41:59 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< I am just feeling like I don't know what normal is anymore. What

should I be eating and how much? How many carbs are too many?

Your weightloss has been great, have you found that you can eat alot

more now than early on? What about plateaus? AHve you had any

extended ones? Up until now I've had a week or two here and there

where I've hung out at one weight but then there has been a big

drop. I've not gone this long bouncing around over such a wide range-

almost 10 lbs my weight varies.

And see, now I am sounding like a wacko and I swore I was not going

to be one of those post-ops who got like this. Hee hee.

>>

Amy: I LOVE Terriaki -- I will make some terriaki salmon tomorrow night,

actually! LOL I try to avoid sugars whenever possible but I haven't

eliminated them from my eating habits. I try to watch the sugary drinks

(juices and such) because I think a lot of calories can pile up there without

one really recognizing it. I like my carbs, too --- I just can't eat them as

exclusively or as much as I did pre-op. I prefer dishes where the carbs and

protein are mixed together -- Fried rice is a good example of this. LOL

I was always able to eat quite a bit. I could eat 4-6 ounces in my first

weeks post-op. That's part of the reason I got all my protein in (75 gms

from first day home). That and the fact that I could consume milk/dairy

products without any problems. Now, I eat 10-14 oz of food at a meal. It

really depends on how hungry I am. Then again, I can have meals (and entire

days) when I just DON'T feel like eating much at all. I rely more on protein

drinks then as a quick fix.

I can eat a 7 oz sirloin steak with some veggies on the side (with maybe one

slice of bread) but then I would be TOTALLY FULL. I'd say I eat rather

'normal' portions (not really any more than most people eat but definately

NOT an RNY portion). I stop when I'm full and feel totally satisfied.

I've experienced plateaus but I haven't really chronicled them -- I've

thought they've lasted for 1-2 weeks tops at times. I think I'm starting one

now. I've been at 201 for about a week now. I can even gain anywhere from

2-4 lbs when on a plateau but usually the rapid weight loss will immediately

follow the weight gain. Damn, I'm waiting to break that 200 range so I have

a good justification for another Outback Steakhouse trip! ROFL

I NEVER thought I'd make it here --- I think I lost about 80 lbs by 6 months

out and then I started to say 'hey, I'm getting somewhere!' That provided me

with great relief. Now that I'm ALMOSt out of the 200 range, I feel like a

new woman and much more confident about the surgery and how my body has

reacted to it. Sounds like you are at a crucial phase in the weight loss

--- Your body is really, really fighting -- could be a point where the body

really feels the need to hold on at this point. Soon enough it will 'give

up' and you will start losing again.

Keep hydrated and I've heard that high fat consumption can 'break' a

plateau. And, remember -- like many have said before --- MEASURE yourself.

I'm sure you're losing inches even if the scales aren't budging (or, even if

they are going up). I was really good about taking measurements in the first

month post-op (when my mom was here to help me) -- it was like they were

FLYING off of me even though the weight loss wasn't as fast and impressive.

Maybe you could try adding a protein shake to your daily menu (you already

take in a lot of protein - but this may 'jump start' the metabolism even

more. I've found that ISOPURE can be mixed easily with a fork and only using

water -- I got the strawberry flavor. It's decent and not as 'heavy' or

filling as many of the thicker shakes which I make with milk). You can also

try upping the fat (hopefully it won't give you oil slicks, bad gas or loose

bowels as it can with some people). This may help 'clean' you out and break

the plateau. Also, keep WELL hydrated even if this means sucking icewater

all day long! LOL I know that I don't drink enough water even though I

think I'm keeping well hydrated, so adding more can only help your kidneys

function better and optimize your system...

Please keep us posted! Tell us what has worked for you, too!

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr.Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

almost 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5' 10 " )

now: 201 lbs/size sweet 16/large in normal people's clothing!

[Guest guest]

Thanks, :

I do try to focus on protein, but at the same time I feel like a

cheater alot because I do like my carbs. I love fried rice, I love

bread. I don't eat alot of sweets but it is hard to stay away from

carbs in general- bread, potatoes, etc.. Like for example, I know

the teriyaki has alot of sugar in it, and pizza is half bread... but

aside from eating chicken breast and filet mignon, what am I going to

eat?

I am just feeling like I don't know what normal is anymore. What

should I be eating and how much? How many carbs are too many?

Your weightloss has been great, have you found that you can eat alot

more now than early on? What about plateaus? AHve you had any

extended ones? Up until now I've had a week or two here and there

where I've hung out at one weight but then there has been a big

drop. I've not gone this long bouncing around over such a wide range-

almost 10 lbs my weight varies.

And see, now I am sounding like a wacko and I swore I was not going

to be one of those post-ops who got like this. Hee hee.

Amy

>

> I think you're just on a plateau and this can occur no matter how

much

> exercise you do or how little one eats (actually, eating less will

put one's

> body into 'starvation mode' and it will be more prone to plateau, I

think).

> I went through quite a few of these (as has every post-op) and

wondered 'is

> this IT? What am I doing WRONG?' It is just your body trying to

adjust,

> hon. I've even GAINED weight when on plateaus --- anywhere from 2-

4 lbs!!!

> Then, it gets lost again and I progress downwards...

>

> This, too, shall pass! Keep up the great work!

>

> all the best,

>

> lap ds with gallbladder removal

> January 25, 2001

> Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

>

> almost 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

>

> preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

> now: 201 lbs/size sweet 16/large in normal people's clothing!

[Guest guest]

Amy,

Plateaus happen it's really frustrating I remember being a pre-op and saying I

will never complain about plateaus since its a resting period for the body I

have had a plateau for the last 2 weeks. I weighed in at 192 2 weeks ago and I

promptly went back to 195 where I have been for the last 2 weeks today again I

weighed in at 192 I am hoping that this is the last time I bounce back up to 195

but who knows I have noticed that I am losing inches so I am not freaking yet

LOL...Hang in there Amy your weight loss will start up again soon.

Lisbeth

ayasud@... wrote: Hi all-

Well, I've been really down lately because my weight loss seems to

have ground to a halt.

I am 4 3/4 months out- surgery on July 6th 2001. I started out at

326 with a BMI of 47-ish. For the past month or so I have been

bouncing around between 237 and 245. The lowest I've gotten is 235

but it didn't stick. All in all I've lost about 3 lbs this month as

at the end of last month I was bouncing around between 240 and 245.

I don't know what I am doing wrong. I am exercising alot- hiking,

going to the gym, walking, biking.

I think I can just eat way too much. Today I had a beef & cheddar

sandwich from Arbys- I magaed to eat almost the whole thing and just

threw away a few bites of bread. I also had a slice and a half of

pizza. I also ate some beef teriyaki-not a whole order but maybe a

cup of the beef with a few bites of rice and salad.

I feel like I am eating a ton and maybe this is why I am not losing.

Maybe you all can help me out and tell me what one would normally eat

at 4-5 months post-op and does my food consumption sound off.

Oh, I also avoid sweets and do not drink sweetened beverages of any

kind. I do not eat fruit. I drink lots of tea and water and diet

coke.

This is really bumming me out. I am so scared that this is it for me.

I know this issue has been addressed a million times and i have

faithfully poured over the archives, but I could really use some

support and encouragement right now.

Amy Y.

Fremont, CA

DS July 6, 2001

Rabkin/Jossart

BMI 47, now 34

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[Guest guest]

Plateaus are not fun but I am use to them. I was averaging 9 to 10 pounds

loss a month and now for the past four months I have lost maybe 7 to 8

pounds. Up and down. But-this is the weight I was at about 14 years ago and

I feel my body is adjusting. I am not getting crazed but I would still like

to lose 40 more pounds. I have a large hernia and would like to take care of

it with a tummy tuck but they would like me to lose all of my weight first.

So iam eating everything I want and I am happy for the 110 pounds I have

lostand I still have another 6 months in my window of opportunity. Dec. 1 is

my 1 year anniversary. Good luck to all and don't stree. Eat and be merry.

Ellen(Pam