RE: Re: Why DS? Case in point

November 26, 2001

Why should a DS'er be made to feel the same way if they

subscribe to an RNY list? I don't understand. It reminds me of the

superbowl. Can anyone enlighten me?>>>>>

Jean,

You made a valid point however this does happen to be a DS list and if

someone is interested in the RNY they dont come here for support. I have

been on a list that was basically all RNY and when they found out I was a DS

post op they kicked me off!

Becuz of that I do not frequent RNY lists anymore.

Judie

November 26, 2001

> I haven't been around the online WLS world very long, but I see a

> fair amount of disrespect between the two different surgery pre/post-

> op'ers going in both directions. Why is that? Why can't we live and

> let live? I'm not accusing any individual of anything, just giving my

> general impressions.If someone on this list has opted to have an RNY,

> why should they be made to feel as though they've stumbled into enemy

> territory? Why should a DS'er be made to feel the same way if they

> subscribe to an RNY list? I don't understand. It reminds me of the

> superbowl. Can anyone enlighten me?

I agree with you, Jean. I think a lot of it has to do with word choices.

Some people feel strongly that they found the right solution for

themselves, and in their zeal to explain their own mindset, tact can go

out the window. Tactlessness of course leads to people being offended,

and then it's a free-for-all of offense/defense and finally, 'Hey, now I

just plain don't like you and won't be nice to you regardless!' LOL. At

some point, productive dialogue gets lost, which is a pity.

November 26, 2001

I joined two RNY lists and each time I have posted about My DS experience I

have heard " you took the easy way out " why would you pick a surgery that allowed

you to eat fats and sugars......The RNY'ers that I have spoken to think that

dumping is GOOD.....I view dumping as negative.....RNY'ers feel that they failed

the surgery....I view the surgery as failing them.....different ideologies.....I

think the DS is great....But I am sure that something better will come along in

10 years or so....RNY'ers say the RNY is the gold standard nothing

better.....Me...I respect those the RNY I didnt have the balls to make such a

drastic change to my life......

Lisbeth

xjx@... wrote: Mich, you wrote:

> Maybe we shouldn't be surprised that RNYers seem so angry and

bitter toward DSers.

I haven't been around the online WLS world very long, but I see a

fair amount of disrespect between the two different surgery pre/post-

op'ers going in both directions. Why is that? Why can't we live and

let live? I'm not accusing any individual of anything, just giving my

general impressions.If someone on this list has opted to have an RNY,

why should they be made to feel as though they've stumbled into enemy

territory? Why should a DS'er be made to feel the same way if they

subscribe to an RNY list? I don't understand. It reminds me of the

superbowl. Can anyone enlighten me?

Jean.

>

> > People are replying to her

> > with typical diet mentality talk about how to avoid " cheating " .

> >

>

> Amazing, isn't it. If I had a WLS that offered me nothing more

than misery,

> punishment, and a never-ending diet plan...I would be absolutely

suicidal.

> Maybe we shouldn't be surprised that RNYers seem so angry and

bitter toward

> DSers.

>

> Michele B., Cols, Ohio

> Failed VBG 1986

> Revision - Open BPD/DS 7/14/00

> Wt 320/159.5 BMI 50.2/24.98 -160.5 pounds

> Dr. P. Maguire, Kettering OH

> Self-pay

> Brachioplasty, Mastopexy, Abdominoplasty, Lateral Trunk Excision -

12/8/01

> Self-pay

> http://hometown.aol.com/chezmich/index.html

>

November 26, 2001

Here is something else funny....Everyone was posting about Thanksgiving on the

other list....I posted that thanksgiving this year was great...as I was

thankfull to be with my family and at having WLS and I ate well and the next day

I lost 2 lbs......everyone else posted " I ate two bites and gained weight "

everyone got a poor baby response I wasnt even acknowledged...now if someone

with the RNY loses 1/2 a pound Way to go Great wooohooo.....DS you hear dead

silence........*shrugs*...I continue to post and be a part of the group for all

the people out there searching and learning about the DS and the first thing I

do is point them in this direction.....