Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hi . does the SAME thing. He will keep saying something over and over until he gets a response. I mean, and times he won't even give me a second to answer him. And, sometimes he will keep it up until you look at him square in the face and respond. Attention, maybe? He'll just repeat it like a rhythm. Very strange that you mention this too. I never thought about it being a obsessive disorder though. Hmmmmm. Here is . " Mommy, will you put Dora in? Mommy will you put Dora in? Mommy will you put Dora in? " Not even allowing for me a chance to slip in an answer! is VERY smart, too. So, I know it isn't a cognitive issue with him. Jodi R. > For those who may have children out there with this kind of behavior - > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - but, > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally acknowledge > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when I > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as I > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up to > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this is > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - Ian > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of play - > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > Thanks in advance. > > - H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 my son does the same thing--i now have a behavioral plan in place for this---when he first asks or tells me something i tell him " I heard youask/say " , if he repeats i say " warning " , if it is a third time he gets time out and i do not immediatly answer him unless it involves food or an urgent need. this is taking forever, but is slowly working. if i am speaking with someone or am on the phone, we go right to the warning, and i take the phone and lock the door somewhere so he cannot make contact with me. the teachers report that they rarely see this behavior, and i notice that itescalates when he is tired, getting ketones, getting sick, etc. ithank him when he waits, and he gets extra time with me when appropriate. last night he waited patiently so we read for an extra half hour. i know how you feel--some days i still lose it and yell!!!! Kim , mom to connor, who is back on the tube (that did not last too long---threeish months), 7years old, 46 inches and 44 pounds. advocate22003 wrote: For those who may have children out there with this kind of behavior - I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - but, I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally acknowledge him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when I say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as I would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up to my children's response needs. My question then would be if this is typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - Ian is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of play - where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. Thanks in advance. - H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Olivia does the exact same thing and do we ever get frustrated with her! It doesn't matter who's talking or what's going on she won't stop until we get right at her level and give her an answer. Saying " You're interupting " will occationally work but she's usually just stuck on it. It does worry me a bit though because Olivia's almost 6 and she never stops talking/babbling. She makes up gibberish or baby talk songs and will repeat 3 or 4 syllables NON STOP. The worst though is in the car or in a shopping cart she will pick one sound and repeat it for well over an hour no matter how many times we tell her to stop, *sigh*. It's starting to interfere in school a bit, she will start this as her way to block out the teacher if she doesn't like what she's being told, the only difference is that at school she hums instead of the gibberish. Any ideas out there I'd sure like to hear them!! Leah, mom to 10 and Olivia 5.75yrs, 22lbs, 36 " , RSS, OI > For those who may have children out there with this kind of behavior - > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - but, > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally acknowledge > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when I > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as I > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up to > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this is > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - Ian > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of play - > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > Thanks in advance. > > - H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hey Just get him to fold laundry!! NO, I'm joking One thing in your email that jumped out at me was when you said you always respond immediately to your children--well maybe you should delay your responses a bit. I am totally at fault with this as well (in fact another teacher and I were discussing this yesterday; if I tell Adam " no this is not the time to talk to me " ; he will say " but I just " and I'll interrupt " not now in a minute " and he will say " but just LISTEN FOR A SECOND " and I'll say " not right this minute I need to .......(whatever it is) " Then by the time we have gone back and forth with him insisting and me saying NO.....well I could have just answered his question in the first place (probably would have taken less time). So......our kids are the product of our excellent parenting. We do always attend to our kids immediately, hey that's what great parents do right?/ But on the odd occasion we can't respond right away we are confused as to why they don't know how to wait! Well they have never learned to do that. So I would start to practice that a bit. I've been trying this for a while now and it is slowly improving. Have fun! Debby Obsessive Behavior > For those who may have children out there with this kind of behavior - > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - but, > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally acknowledge > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when I > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as I > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up to > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this is > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - Ian > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of play - > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > Thanks in advance. > > - H > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 hey heather!! christopher does this all the time as well, even in fromt of dr h who has talked to him about it. he is also obsessed with numbers, esp. 8. jodie c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 hey leah, christopher does that to, when he wants to block you out or doesnt want to respond he say " nothing " over and over again or new growls or roars at you!!! jodie c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Jodi - you know - Ian is very smart too. I'm wondering if our RSS children are a little brighter than the average bear?? - H > > For those who may have children out there with this kind of > behavior - > > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - > but, > > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally > acknowledge > > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 > > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when > I > > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm > > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as > I > > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up > to > > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this is > > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - > Ian > > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of > play - > > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > - H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Jodi - okay - so, it's not just me. It is like a rhythm. Very intereseting. Hmmmm is right. - H > > For those who may have children out there with this kind of > behavior - > > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - > but, > > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally > acknowledge > > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 > > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when > I > > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm > > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as > I > > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up > to > > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this is > > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - > Ian > > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of > play - > > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > - H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Kim - thanks for the response. I like the warning idea - and although I've locked myself in a room before while on the phone (LOL) it usually doesn't work because I end up unable to hear the person on the other end because Ian is screaming for me to come out! (LOL). -H > For those who may have children out there with this kind of behavior - > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - but, > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally acknowledge > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when I > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as I > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up to > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this is > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - Ian > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of play - > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > Thanks in advance. > > - H > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Hmmm - very interesting isn't it that many of our children do this? - H > > For those who may have children out there with this kind of > behavior - > > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - > but, > > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally > acknowledge > > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 > > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when > I > > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm > > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as > I > > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up > to > > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this > is > > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - > Ian > > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of > play - > > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > - H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 LOL! Yeah - maybe I should delay my response - that is, if I want to go nutz listening to my children all day!! Usually when I (If I respond they atleast keep quiet for an extra minute or two! LOL LOL. Oh - you crack me up. I'm sorry - but, I can't stop laughing. We definately need you to run some type of meeting at the next convention - like a mother's group - and you be the leader - it doesn't matter about what either - because you have the best sense of humor ever and it's so nice to laugh. Thank you. Okay - now seriously, your suggestion is a good one. (not the laundry one LOL) but, not responding as quickly. But, I'm still wondering what makes him repeat sooo many times? My other two boys never did that (I have a 15 1/2 yr old step son whom I've known since he was 3) and when my 3 1/2 yr old does it - it's usually because I'm ignoring him (LOL). I think it's just strange the number of times. I would think 2 or 3 is okay - but, 6 or 8 times just seems excessive. Maybe not. I find myself repeating to my husband that the toilets need to get cleaned at least a dozen times on the weekends. Who knows. Very interesting to say the least. I like the warning and not responding ideas. Although, I'm still struggling with the choices idea - remember the one you suggested way back for my 3 1/2 yr old? Now instead of saying " nuffin " (nothing) for either choice he'll say flat out - I'm not doing either one! - then turns and walks away. LOL. Similar to what he did at school the other day. Oh brother. - H > Hey > Just get him to fold laundry!! NO, I'm joking > One thing in your email that jumped out at me was when you said you always > respond immediately to your children--well maybe you should delay your > responses a bit. I am totally at fault with this as well (in fact another > teacher and I were discussing this yesterday; if I tell Adam " no this is not > the time to talk to me " ; he will say " but I just " and I'll interrupt " not > now in a minute " and he will say " but just LISTEN FOR A SECOND " and I'll say > " not right this minute I need to .......(whatever it is) " > Then by the time we have gone back and forth with him insisting and me > saying NO.....well I could have just answered his question in the first > place (probably would have taken less time). > So......our kids are the product of our excellent parenting. We do always > attend to our kids immediately, hey that's what great parents do right?/ But > on the odd occasion we can't respond right away we are confused as to why > they don't know how to wait! Well they have never learned to do that. > So I would start to practice that a bit. I've been trying this for a while > now and it is slowly improving. > > Have fun! > Debby > > > Obsessive Behavior > > > > For those who may have children out there with this kind of behavior - > > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - but, > > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally acknowledge > > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to 6 > > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me when I > > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if I'm > > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly as I > > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live up to > > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this is > > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - Ian > > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of play - > > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > - H > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 What did Dr. H say to him? - H > hey heather!! > christopher does this all the time as well, even in fromt of dr h who > has talked to him about it. he is also obsessed with numbers, esp. 8. > > jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 I truly believe this. I have the world's best negotiator in this house! He is the best at outsmarting anyone! I remember sitting at his IPRC review in May and his grade 7 teacher was asked " if you could make one recommendation of a strategy to use with Adam for next year's teacher, what would it be? " And he said 'sorry I don't have anything. With Adam any new idea works great for about 2 weeks and once he catches on, it doesn't work at all and you need to come up with something else " . He is one of a kind. The other thing I really believe is that our RSS kids were born with one incredibly stubborn personality. How many of our kids just think THEY know best? Whether they are 2 years old, 8 years old or 13 years old? It's a constant battle, I am always saying " ADAM! I am the mother here, you do it because I SAID SO! " But he always ALWAYS knows better, and he is just going to follow himself. It's not impulsive, it might seem that way, but it's not, they are just so self confident that they think they know it all. UGH Deb Re: Obsessive Behavior > Jodi - you know - Ian is very smart too. I'm wondering if our RSS > children are a little brighter than the average bear?? > > - H > > > > > For those who may have children out there with this kind of > > behavior - > > > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - > > but, > > > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally > > acknowledge > > > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to > 6 > > > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me > when > > I > > > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if > I'm > > > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly > as > > I > > > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live > up > > to > > > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this > is > > > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should > monitor?? > > > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - > > > Ian > > > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of > > play - > > > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > - H > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Deb Okay - now that I've caught my breath from laughing so much. Maybe your lightheartedness is the best medicine for this repeating thing - because you bring up a great point about our repetitiveness and goats. LOL. just woke up on my lap - I was laughing too hard I guess - and he's laughing now too. He doesn't even know why - if only he knew some of it was about him! LOL I've got the giggles and I'm crying LOL. Just feeling silly I guess. Yes - please please let us know when you come down here. I think we should all make a point to meet! - H > > > Hey > > > Just get him to fold laundry!! NO, I'm joking > > > One thing in your email that jumped out at me was when you said > > you always > > > respond immediately to your children--well maybe you should delay > > your > > > responses a bit. I am totally at fault with this as well (in fact > > another > > > teacher and I were discussing this yesterday; if I tell Adam " no > > this is not > > > the time to talk to me " ; he will say " but I just " and I'll > > interrupt " not > > > now in a minute " and he will say " but just LISTEN FOR A SECOND " > > and I'll say > > > " not right this minute I need to .......(whatever it is) " > > > Then by the time we have gone back and forth with him insisting > > and me > > > saying NO.....well I could have just answered his question in the > > first > > > place (probably would have taken less time). > > > So......our kids are the product of our excellent parenting. We do > > always > > > attend to our kids immediately, hey that's what great parents do > > right?/ But > > > on the odd occasion we can't respond right away we are confused as > > to why > > > they don't know how to wait! Well they have never learned to do > > that. > > > So I would start to practice that a bit. I've been trying this > > for a while > > > now and it is slowly improving. > > > > > > Have fun! > > > Debby > > > > > > > > > Obsessive Behavior > > > > > > > > > > For those who may have children out there with this kind of > > behavior - > > > > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - > > but, > > > > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally > > acknowledge > > > > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to > > 6 > > > > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me > > when I > > > > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if > > I'm > > > > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly > > as I > > > > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live > > up to > > > > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this > > is > > > > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > > > > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - > > Ian > > > > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of > > play - > > > > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > - H > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Deb Okay - now that I've caught my breath from laughing so much. Maybe your lightheartedness is the best medicine for this repeating thing - because you bring up a great point about our repetitiveness and goats. LOL. just woke up on my lap - I was laughing too hard I guess - and he's laughing now too. He doesn't even know why - if only he knew some of it was about him! LOL I've got the giggles and I'm crying LOL. Just feeling silly I guess. Yes - please please let us know when you come down here. I think we should all make a point to meet! - H > > > Hey > > > Just get him to fold laundry!! NO, I'm joking > > > One thing in your email that jumped out at me was when you said > > you always > > > respond immediately to your children--well maybe you should delay > > your > > > responses a bit. I am totally at fault with this as well (in fact > > another > > > teacher and I were discussing this yesterday; if I tell Adam " no > > this is not > > > the time to talk to me " ; he will say " but I just " and I'll > > interrupt " not > > > now in a minute " and he will say " but just LISTEN FOR A SECOND " > > and I'll say > > > " not right this minute I need to .......(whatever it is) " > > > Then by the time we have gone back and forth with him insisting > > and me > > > saying NO.....well I could have just answered his question in the > > first > > > place (probably would have taken less time). > > > So......our kids are the product of our excellent parenting. We do > > always > > > attend to our kids immediately, hey that's what great parents do > > right?/ But > > > on the odd occasion we can't respond right away we are confused as > > to why > > > they don't know how to wait! Well they have never learned to do > > that. > > > So I would start to practice that a bit. I've been trying this > > for a while > > > now and it is slowly improving. > > > > > > Have fun! > > > Debby > > > > > > > > > Obsessive Behavior > > > > > > > > > > For those who may have children out there with this kind of > > behavior - > > > > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - > > but, > > > > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally > > acknowledge > > > > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to > > 6 > > > > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me > > when I > > > > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if > > I'm > > > > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly > > as I > > > > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live > > up to > > > > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this > > is > > > > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should monitor?? > > > > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - > > Ian > > > > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of > > play - > > > > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > - H > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Deb and all moms - well, then I'm really in trouble - because I think I know it all too. LOL Seriously, I appreciate all your comments and I do actually take you more seriously than I lead on. I enjoy so many of the woman here on this listserve - there is such a comaraderie and I hope everyone knows that I feel very fortunate to be among an amazing group of women. Thanks to all. We are truly blessed to have each other. - H > > > > For those who may have children out there with this kind of > > > behavior - > > > > I'm not looking for things wrong with my son - trust me <grin> - > > > but, > > > > I notice Ian constantly repeats himself until you finally > > > acknowledge > > > > him. I've heard him say the same phrase, word or sentence up to > > 6 > > > > times until finally someone responds. Now, please believe me > > when > > > I > > > > say that I always respond to my children immediately - but, if > > I'm > > > > having a conversation with someone and can't respond as quickly > > as > > > I > > > > would like - that would be an example of a time I fail to live > > up > > > to > > > > my children's response needs. My question then would be if this > > is > > > > typical of obsessive behaviors is it something I should > > monitor?? > > > > Just curious. I also know this can be typical for a child of 2 - > > > > > Ian > > > > is very bright - but, I've heard him do it even during times of > > > play - > > > > where he will repeat something 2 or 3 times. Just curious. > > > > > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > > > > > - H > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 hey heather!! basically she got to his level and explained to him that we heard what he said the first time and that he needs to stop asking. that he is a big boy. she also said that we have to stop " playing " into it like with the numbers (he used to have a fit if we wouldnt go to register #8, now he is fine with it). jodie c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 How many of these kids repeating themselves have had hearing issues (blocked tubes) ??? I find when Liams inner ears are blocked he repeats himself and tends to talk or babble to himself alot more( in fact never stops making some sort of noise). I know if I have been swimming or had an ear infection, sound becomes distorted, you hear yourself alot louder than anything in the enviroment. Liam seems to repeat himself because he likes listening to himself. I guess when this is happening he also doesnt hear some of the answers we give him so the repeating comes in again. This behaviour generally dissappears when he has had eartubes or his inner ear clears by itself. Just a thought!! They are clever kids though !!! Have a good weekend Jody(mum to Liam 4yrs 3 months 11kg ?89cm) > hey heather!! > basically she got to his level and explained to him that we heard what > he said the first time and that he needs to stop asking. that he is a > big boy. she also said that we have to stop " playing " into it like > with the numbers (he used to have a fit if we wouldnt go to register > #8, now he is fine with it). > > jodie c Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2005 Report Share Posted September 19, 2005 Well, I though that all the rare behavior of was because he is my only son I he all the time demands my total attention. If some one is taking to me he has to talk and I have to answer because if I not answer him, he is saying and saying the same to get my attention. Also He is telling all the time that he loves me, and ask if I love him, all days, many, many times. He also has a lot of examples of rare behavior but I supposed that was for his sensibility and for be the only son. thats interesting that many boys act similar. betty __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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