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Can someone explain how clubfeet affects the hands? I am not sure I

understand.....how do you know??? Do they use casting for that as well?

Clubfeet and distal arthrogryposis

Hi,

My name is and this is my first visit to this website

support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the clubfeet at

my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the Ponseti

method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery to

correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want to

avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and he

was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my pregnancy

and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that when

I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of life)

he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would work

because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but my

husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to see

another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

casting and he said he has seen it work even with this condition.

Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the full

correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm also

planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

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Welcome to you and little !

I do know of a very few families here with children affected by various degrees

of arthrogryposis. I don't recall that any of them were successful in avoiding

surgery entirely, though they did wind up needing very little by way of surgical

correction. If you enter arthrogyrposis as the search term at the group's

homepage, it will bring up these stories.

The Global-HELP booklet mentions the arthrogypotic clubfoot in its discussion of

" resistant clubfoot " on page 9:

" Is Ponseti management useful for resistant clubfoot?

Ponseti management is appropriate for use in children with arthrogryposis,

myelomeningocele, and Larsen syndrome. The results may not be as gratifying as

they are in the child with idiopathic clubfoot treated from birth, but there are

advantages to this approach. The first is that the clubfoot could respond

completely to Ponseti management, with or without the need for an Achilles

tenotomy. Additionally, even partial preoperative correction of these severe

deformities can decrease the extent of surgery and improve the ability to

approximate the edges of the contracted skin.

Arthrogrypotic clubfoot is perhaps the most challenging. Often,

initial early heel cord tenotomy is required to enable any manipulative

deformity correction. Creating a calcaneocavus deformity is not a concern

because of the severe contracture of the posterior joint capsules. Anticipate

the need for surgery. "

The entire booklet can be viewed and downloaded at:

http://www.global-help.org/publications/Ponseti.2Ed.pdf

The idea is that the Ponseti method is an appropriate way to begin treating any

clubfoot. Best case, it will work as perfectly as it does for your " garden

variety " clubfoot. Worst case the baby will need some surgical

intervention--and in the case of an arthrogyrpotic foot, this seems a pretty

likely outcome. One thing to keep in mind is that at the end of the day, the

manipulations of the Ponseti method are beneficial no matter what. A clubfoot

is like a crazy, 3-D puzzle that has to be undone in *just the right way*. What

sets the Ponseti method apart from other methods of manipulating, stretching and

casting is that, when it is done correctly, it IS *just the right way*. There

are components to an arthrogyrpotic clubfoot that will make this puzzle a little

different and a little harder--and perhaps even impossible to solve without

surgery. But some of the tiny bones, some of the tendons, some of the important

joints are just where they should be, stretched just as

they should be and that would not be the case if you hadn't tried the Ponseti

method.

I wish I had better words of encouragement for you. Hopefully some of the

families who have dealt with arthrogyrposis will chime in here as well. If you

have any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask them. And please keep us

updated on 's progress. My family joins me in wishing you and yours all the

best,

Naomi

The Family, North Coast of California

Naomi Hannah(2/21/1) Jonah(6/20/3, corrected BCF, FAB 12-14/7)

monyd64 wrote: Hi,

My name is and this is my first visit to this website

support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the clubfeet at

my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the Ponseti

method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery to

correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want to

avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and he

was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my pregnancy

and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that when

I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of life)

he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would work

because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but my

husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to see

another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

casting and he said he has seen it work even with this condition.

Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the full

correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm also

planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

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, you are definitely on the right track! I would definitely call Dr. P

and get his opinion. Tell him your concerns and see if he can recommend another

dr. for you to see. If you are unhappy with your current doc, there are many

others out there that are just as capable!

Unfortunately, I am fairly new to this group myself and am not familiar with

arthrogryposis.

Keep your head up!

son born 11/12/05 atypical/complex bilateral CF

Clubfeet and distal arthrogryposis

Hi,

My name is and this is my first visit to this website

support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the clubfeet at

my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the Ponseti

method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery to

correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want to

avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and he

was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my pregnancy

and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that when

I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of life)

he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would work

because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but my

husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to see

another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

casting and he said he has seen it work even with this condition.

Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the full

correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm also

planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

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Hi, !

My son was also born with distal arthrogryposis--though it's not 100%

confirmed since there is no lab that tests for it here in the U.S.

(Did you get a blood test confirmation? If so, anywhere here in the

U.S.?)

Distal arthrogryposis is different from " regular " arthrogryposis, in

that it is genetic and not due to positioning in the womb. (Though

it could be a result of a gene mutation and not necessarily

inherited. Neither my husband nor I have any form of

arthrogryposis.) And of course, the contractures are more in the

extremeties and not in the shoulders, elbows, kness, etc. like

regular arthrogryposis. There are also other " symptoms " that can

occur with distal--my son also has left ptosis and congenital

scoliosis, both associated with distal arthrogryposis. He has

bilateral finger contractures (camptodactyly), but they are not so

bad. His function is really good and fine motor skills are awesome.

OT has helped. Basically the middle fingers and especially the ring

fingers are pretty contracted. Sometimes they use splints, but in my

son's case, the hand specialist doesn't think they are necessary.

Anyway, so far, our son's foot has been very well-corrected and

maintained and no mention of surgery has been made. It probably

depends on the severity of the arthrogryposis.

Where are you? If you are near NYC, you may want to come see our doc

for a second opinion. I know he has quite a few other patients with

various forms of arthrogryposis.

Best,

Mommy to (12/15/04)

>

> Can someone explain how clubfeet affects the hands? I am not sure I

understand.....how do you know??? Do they use casting for that as

well?

> Clubfeet and distal arthrogryposis

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is and this is my first visit to this website

> support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

> clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

> diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the

clubfeet at

> my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the Ponseti

> method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery to

> correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want

to

> avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and

he

> was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

> Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my

pregnancy

> and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

> casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that

when

> I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of

life)

> he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would

work

> because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but my

> husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to

see

> another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

> casting and he said he has seen it work even with this condition.

> Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the

full

> correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

> wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

> arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm

also

> planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Welcome, & ,

Here's a link to a page about a family that has 2 kids with

arthrogryposis:

http://ponsetikids.freeservers.com/sarahg.html

I haven't heard from them in years, so I don't know how the girls

are doing today.

I know that there are challenges in obtaining and maintaining

correction of the clubfoot in kids with arthrogryposis. Hopefully

you can find a way to Dr. Ponseti since he's probably got the most

experience with the condition and can give you good feedback on

's particular situation.

Please keep us posted!

Regards,

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is and this is my first visit to this website

> support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

> clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

> diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the clubfeet

at

> my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the Ponseti

> method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery to

> correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want to

> avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and

he

> was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

> Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my

pregnancy

> and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

> casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that

when

> I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of

life)

> he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would

work

> because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but my

> husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to

see

> another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

> casting and he said he has seen it work even with this condition.

> Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the

full

> correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

> wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

> arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm also

> planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

>

>

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Clubfoot does not affect the hands. Arthrogryposis (AMS) is a

condition that children are born with that in general terms means

that they have 2 or more contractures in their body. There are

different forms/severities of arthrogryposis. Often, one of the

contractures is the feet- or clubfoot- and sometimes the hands are

contracted also.

When a clubfoot diagnosis is made in-uetero, they will often watch

for other movements in the baby- hands opening and closing, and

practicing swallowing for instance- to rule out arthrogryposis.

I hope this helps.

>

> Can someone explain how clubfeet affects the hands? I am not sure

I understand.....how do you know??? Do they use casting for that as

well?

> Clubfeet and distal arthrogryposis

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is and this is my first visit to this website

> support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

> clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

> diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the

clubfeet at

> my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the

Ponseti

> method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery

to

> correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want

to

> avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and

he

> was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

> Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my

pregnancy

> and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

> casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that

when

> I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of

life)

> he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would

work

> because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but

my

> husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to

see

> another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

> casting and he said he has seen it work even with this

condition.

> Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the

full

> correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

> wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

> arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm

also

> planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thank you ,

I want to be sure I know everything I need to know....this is all very scary for

me....when do they usually find that type of diagnosis?

Clubfeet and distal arthrogryposis

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is and this is my first visit to this website

> support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

> clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

> diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the

clubfeet at

> my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the

Ponseti

> method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery

to

> correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want

to

> avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and

he

> was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

> Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my

pregnancy

> and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

> casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that

when

> I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of

life)

> he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would

work

> because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but

my

> husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to

see

> another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

> casting and he said he has seen it work even with this

condition.

> Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the

full

> correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

> wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

> arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm

also

> planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Clubfeet and distal arthrogryposis

>

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is and this is my first visit to this website

> support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

> clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

> diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the

clubfeet at

> my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the

Ponseti

> method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery

to

> correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want

to

> avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and

he

> was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

> Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my

pregnancy

> and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

> casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that

when

> I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of

life)

> he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would

work

> because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but

my

> husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to

see

> another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

> casting and he said he has seen it work even with this

condition.

> Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the

full

> correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

> wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

> arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm

also

> planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,this is , Pablo´s mum.

He was born with arthrpgryposis also.

Clubfeet, left hip dyslocated, one knee flexed and the other extended.

He was trweated in Spain with the only ponseti doctor that we had at

that time here.

After his hip surgery at 10 months was quite hard to keep the DBB on

his feet and this ponseti doctor precribe us an AFO.

At 2.5 years old his ponseti doctor was wondering to do the real

surgery, she started to call his feet, " arthrogypotic feet " . We went

to Iowa to confirm that our only solution was surgery, and

unfortunately was too late for us. Dr Ponseti told us that we were in

good hands and the surgery was the only solution for his feet.He had

a PMR when he was 2.5

We will never know if the Ponseti method would work on us, because we

were not very compliance with the DBB...

There is also a forum, created for Abby´s mum, they are very

helpful, but unfortunatly, most of those children are dealing with so

many issues, that feet are the minor problem.., I only know 1 kid

that has avoid surgery.

The web is:

http://www.forabby.com/

If I were in situation I would try Dr. Ponseti himself.

I should say that Pablo is doing wonderfully, is 4 years old do not

play soccer like his friends but playng, is not running as fast as

them, but running. And is the best present I could have in my live.

Good luck in your trip, after the first steps you will have the

reward, don´t lose your faith, those kids will surprise you. Follow

your instincts.

Sorry for my english I hope you will understand me.

-- In nosurgery4clubfoot , " monyd64 "

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>

> Hi,

>

> My name is and this is my first visit to this website

> support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

> clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

> diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the clubfeet

at

> my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the Ponseti

> method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery to

> correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want to

> avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and he

> was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

> Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my

pregnancy

> and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

> casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that

when

> I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of life)

> he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would

work

> because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but my

> husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to

see

> another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

> casting and he said he has seen it work even with this condition.

> Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the

full

> correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

> wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

> arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm also

> planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

>

>

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- welcome to you and ! My son Lucas was also born with

bilateral clubfoot and distal arthrogryposis. His middle fingers are

contracted on both hands, but they are doing much better. We splint

them at night, but that's all since we don't have any docs around

here that know what to do with it. We are trying to get a referral

to the Shriner's in Minn/St . For the feet we saw a doc who said

he did the Ponseti method and were told Lucas did not have

arthrogryposis, but maybe something called " trigger finger. " After 9

or so casts and tenotomy on both heels we were told he needed

surgery. I didn't know any better, and last Oct at 10 mos Lucas had

major surgery on his right foot. Shortly afterward I found this

website and everyone encouraged me to call Dr. Ponseti. I'm forever

grateful!! That's when we found out that Lucas did infact have

arthrogryposis.

Dr. Ponseti said it is a difficult clubfoot to treat, but he can do

it. He started over from scratch (by the time we saw him even the

foot that had the surgery had regressed) and in only 5 casts we were

corrected. Today Lucas is in the P/M brace 16 hrs and the second I

take it off he's running around like mad. His feet look great and he

didn't need surgery on the left foot because Dr. Ponseti was able to

correct it. Like someone else said, treating clubfoot is like a

puzzle and arthrogryposis is a hard puzzle- but it's one that Dr.

Ponseti can figure out.

Please call/email Dr. Ponseti. That doc may be on his list, but Dr.

Ponseti would never do surgery on one so young. I think a lot of

time the doctors get to where they can't do anything else with it

and call for surgery when the better thing would be to refer their

patient to another doctor who can help.

You can email me any time if you have more questions. Good luck and

keep us updated on 's situation!

Jenn

Lucas 12/10/04 BCF

>

> Hi,

>

> My name is and this is my first visit to this website

> support group. My son was born on May 6,2006 with bilateral

> clubfeet and both his hands are affected as well. His official

> diagnosis is distal arthrogryposis. I found out about the clubfeet

at

> my 20 week u/s and was able to line up a doctor to do the Ponseti

> method. I was born with this condition as well and had surgery to

> correct the cf. I have lots of pain and stiffness and so I want to

> avoid my son having the same. We met with the doc prenatally and

he

> was very pro the ponseti method(he is on the list of docs on Dr.

> Ponseti's website and I had e-mailed Dr. Ponseti during my

pregnancy

> and this was the doc he recommended. It usually takes double the

> casts to correct than congenital cf. What concerned me was that

when

> I brought to see him for his first set of casts(day 6 of

life)

> he seemed to be very pessimistic as to whether or not this would

work

> because of the arthrogryposis. I was upset by his attitude but my

> husband said he was just being honest with us. However I went to

see

> another doc recently for my sons hands who also does the ponseti

> casting and he said he has seen it work even with this condition.

> Today was cast #9 and he bsically doesn't feel he is getting the

full

> correction and that surgery would probably be needed. I was just

> wondering if anyone on this site has a child who's cf were from

> arthrogryposis and if the ponseti method worked for them. I'm also

> planning on calling Dr. Ponseti. Thanks

>

>

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