Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 , I remember those mornings when their sleep is so light, it seems a sneeze would wake them up. Zach used to clunk his bar on the crib and wake up because of it, and that would frustrate me! (and him!) One thing, we took the bumper pad out the first time he got caught up in it, I think he only got his shoe stuck in the rungs once or twice, less often than in the bumper pad, for sure. We switched Zach to a full size bed (we skipped the toddler bed, seemed a waste of money to us) with angel guard rails on both sides when he was 2 years 3 months - we would have kept him in the crib until he was 5 if we could - but we had another one on the way! OR...Your little man just may be an early riser, some kids are - not because of any other reason other than how they are genetically wired. (or it *could* be the bar, but he'll get used to that clunking) (my second) was a TOTAL ROOSTER. That kid would wake at 4:30/5:00 on an almost daily basis for several months. UGH. (and he doesn't have clubfoot) Thankfully, he would sit in there for 20-30 minutes without fussing, so we'd leave him in there. Finally, he started realizing we weren't going to come and get him, and dozed off every now and again, and finally started to sleep later and later. Is it too light in the room? Now that summer is here, perhaps the light is waking him up? Do you have room darkening shades? For me, at one it would feel a bit too young to make the transition to the toddler bed - but you gotta do what you gotta do to get some shut-eye! I don't know what the " recommendation " is in terms of age and making the switch - perhaps somebody else around here does? Good luck!!!!!! Holly Zachary 7/27/02 Unilateral Right C/F Treated by Dr. Ponseti DBB Nights Only -- In nosurgery4clubfoot , " artlovr " wrote: > > My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar banging > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in the > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that seemed > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him one > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar stuck > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play tonight, > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. He > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we think. > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a toddler > bed? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 My daughter Kelsey had this same issue and slept in the pack and play from the time she was 14 months until about 18 months and then we moved her to a toddler bed with a full length bed rail on it and the other side against the wall. She still had the security of the crib but not the banging issues. She is now 2 1/2 and in the toddler bed without the rails and we have a new twin bed on order for her that should be here soon. Jenni artlovr wrote: My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar banging on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in the early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that seemed to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him one night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar stuck against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play tonight, though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. He just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we think. My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a toddler bed? Thanks for any suggestions. 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 Jenni- Mom to (10/31/01) and Kelsey (11/7/03)happy girl in FAB nights only for left clubfoot. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 , I know this wasn't your question, but have you checked his bar length recently? If the bar is starting to get a little short this could be what is making him uncomfortable - thus he is thrashing around more and not sleeping as soundly. My son Sammy is 21 months and still in his crib. He does this night waking, banging the bar thing everytime his bar starts getting a little short. HTH, > > My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar banging > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in the > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that seemed > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him one > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar stuck > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play tonight, > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. He > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we think. > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a toddler > bed? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 We moved the shoes on the bar, got new shoes, padded the bar, everything that we could think of related to the bar. It has been two months since we moved the bar so I checked the width against his shoulders again tonight before I put him to bed. His shoulders are just barely inside the heels so I moved the shoes out one more hole. He doesn't wake up at all during the night, so I don't think it is a comfort issue with the shoes, but we will see. I don't think he is just an early riser because when he sleeps until 6:30 or 7, he wakes up talking and happy but if he is up any earlier, he cries and is clearly unhappy and still tired. > > > > My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way > > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar banging > > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in the > > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that seemed > > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him one > > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar stuck > > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play tonight, > > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. He > > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we think. > > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a toddler > > bed? > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Hi , Moving the bar out slightly like you have might help. Sometimes it takes just one tiny adjustment to make a difference to a sleep pattern. We moved our son into a Pack & play when he was 11 months. The first night he went in, we were on holiday so he was exhausted from the trip. For the next couple of nights I'd put him in when he was almost asleep. I also made a big thing of putting in his favourite teddy to sleep there and making it up with his blankets before bedtime. I'd let him play in it during the day with all his bedding inside and take his daytime naps there so it became a cosy and familiar place for him. Another thing I just remembered when I was thinking about your mail was that my friend had given me a soft foam mattress for the pack & play to make it more comfortable for him, because the standard 'mattress' was a more of a thin pad and quite hard. I think I was the first mom to move a baby into the pack & play from a crib ( is almost 3 and a half now). It was a totally coincidental discovery on our part. We'd gone on holiday for a month and he slept so well in his pack & play from day 1 that we gradually realized the only difference was his bed. As soon as we got back home we sold his crib! It was amazing the instant difference in his sleep comfort compared to the 2 or 3 months we'd struggled with the crib. No more banging or getting stuck and frustrated. He'd rest one shoe up against the soft sides and stopped waking up all irritable. Every child is different, but 1 year might be too young to move into a bed. definitely wasn't ready for it at that age. He found the pack & play less intimidating than the full size bed that was in his room. When was just over 2 he moved into the full size bed with a safety rail that has soft mesh on the side (made by Chicco). I know lots of people use the toddler beds with success, but the ones we have here in South Africa are quite narrow and I wanted him to have ample room to move around with his bar. To get him used to moving into the bed when he was 2, I think it helped that he'd taken some daytime naps on it and was very proud of himself for being so daring. After a couple of weeks he announced that he would sleep in that bed at night from then on and he never went back to his pack & play again. As you said, it's unlikely to be a shoe discomfort thing because sleeps well for the night and happens early morning. When 's shoes needed adjustment he'd wake up probably 3-4 times in the night. If you've ruled everything else out, there's a good chance it's the crib, like it was in our case. But also, sometimes went through stages of waking early/being restless at night when he was nearing a developmental stage (crawling, walking) or teething etc. And sometimes he just went through stages of waking too early for no apparent reason. If this went on for a while, I'd put him to bed half an hour to an hour later for a week or so. That seemed to help him to get used to sleeping later again. I don't know if any of this helps at all. It's so hard trying to find the cause when they can't really tell you yet. Good luck. Moss CEO Steps Charity Tel: <http://www.steps.org.za> www.steps.org.za _____ From: nosurgery4clubfoot [mailto:nosurgery4clubfoot ] On Behalf Of artlovr Sent: 06 July 2006 01:52 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: move to toddler bed We moved the shoes on the bar, got new shoes, padded the bar, everything that we could think of related to the bar. It has been two months since we moved the bar so I checked the width against his shoulders again tonight before I put him to bed. His shoulders are just barely inside the heels so I moved the shoes out one more hole. He doesn't wake up at all during the night, so I don't think it is a comfort issue with the shoes, but we will see. I don't think he is just an early riser because when he sleeps until 6:30 or 7, he wakes up talking and happy but if he is up any earlier, he cries and is clearly unhappy and still tired. My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way > > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar banging > > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in the > > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that seemed > > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him one > > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar stuck > > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play tonight, > > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. He > > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we think. > > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a toddler > > bed? > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Hi - do you have a bumper pad on 's bed to try and buffer some of the sound? I actually made one and this has been somewhat of a solution for us. I am going to adjust where it is to get better sound protection though! If you are worried about a bumper pad, they are only advised against before the baby is old enough to turn over as they can collect CO2 (although I have always thought the wide open top of the crib kind of combatted that - it's a wonder any of US is alive!) Good luck and thinking of you! artlovr wrote: My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar banging on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in the early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that seemed to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him one night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar stuck against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play tonight, though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. He just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we think. My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a toddler bed? Thanks for any suggestions. 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 --------------------------------- Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Thanks for the suggestions. We actually do have a bumper pad, have always had one on the crib but it isn't working anymore. Last night we made sure he had a good dinner (he doesn't eat great at dinner often) and he woke up at 4:30. I am thinking it may be a combination of the bar banging and the stage he is in now. He is walking and just this past week, walking independently. On the other hand, this has been really going on since March. Before that he slept until 7:30 or 8. Who knows what it is, I wish he could tell me! lol He has napped in the pack and play today and will sleep in it tonight so we will see... My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar banging > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in the > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that seemed > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him one > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar stuck > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play tonight, > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. He > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we think. > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a toddler > bed? > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 , have you checked the bar length? night waking is often attributed to bar getting too short. maybe? Kori At 11:18 AM 7/6/2006, you wrote: >Thanks for the suggestions. We actually do have a bumper pad, have >always had one on the crib but it isn't working anymore. Last night >we made sure he had a good dinner (he doesn't eat great at dinner >often) and he woke up at 4:30. I am thinking it may be a combination >of the bar banging and the stage he is in now. He is walking and just >this past week, walking independently. On the other hand, this has >been really going on since March. Before that he slept until 7:30 or >8. Who knows what it is, I wish he could tell me! lol He has napped >in the pack and play today and will sleep in it tonight so we will >see... > > > > >My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way > > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar >banging > > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in >the > > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that >seemed > > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him >one > > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar >stuck > > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play >tonight, > > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. >He > > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we >think. > > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a >toddler > > bed? > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! >Mail. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Ysp, did that, both when this started and again last night. We even got new shoes because it looked like his toes were being squished. He is sleeping through the night fine, he is just waking up way too early. > >My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way > > > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar > >banging > > > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in > >the > > > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that > >seemed > > > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him > >one > > > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar > >stuck > > > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play > >tonight, > > > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. > >He > > > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > > > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we > >think. > > > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a > >toddler > > > bed? > > > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! > >Mail. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Ysp, did that, both when this started and again last night. We even got new shoes because it looked like his toes were being squished. He is sleeping through the night fine, he is just waking up way too early. > >My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, way > > > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar > >banging > > > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in > >the > > > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that > >seemed > > > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him > >one > > > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar > >stuck > > > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play > >tonight, > > > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. > >He > > > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > > > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we > >think. > > > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a > >toddler > > > bed? > > > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new Yahoo! > >Mail. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 It's great that your little one is sleeping through the night. When you say your son is waking up " too early, " how early is that? My toddler went through a phase that lasted a couple months ... he thought it was great to get up at 5:30 a.m. when he was 10-months- old. He'd stay up until about 8:00 a.m. and the rest of the household would get up b/c he was so noisy with his toys... Then his mood would " crash " and he would have a very long morning nap (say 4 hours). Thank heavens this phase of life passed!!! We now have a second baby (with bcf) that loves to sleep in til 10:00 a.m. and the toddler stays in bed til 9:30ish. They both go to bed at 8:00 p.m. I'm just waiting to see if the younger one will start getting up at 5:30 a.m. and stay up.... let's hope not! Have you tried putting your son to bed a little later each night? I hope it's just a phase for you guys too! mom to Zach (bcf 06/01/29) In nosurgery4clubfoot , " artlovr " wrote: > > Ysp, did that, both when this started and again last night. We even > got new shoes because it looked like his toes were being squished. He > is sleeping through the night fine, he is just waking up way too > early. > > > > >My son, just turned one and has often been waking up way, > way > > > > too early the past couple of months. We suspect it is the bar > > >banging > > > > on the crib and he can't get back to sleep when it wakes him in > > >the > > > > early morning hours (4:30, 5, 5:30). We padded the bar and that > > >seemed > > > > to help some, but doesn't seem to be working anymore. I saw him > > >one > > > > night frustrated, half asleep, trying to turn over with his bar > > >stuck > > > > against the bumper pad. We are going to try the pack and play > > >tonight, > > > > though we did the other night and he wouldn't go to sleep in it. > > >He > > > > just likes his crib. He has also gone through several bouts of > > > > teething, so that has been a factor in the waking too early, we > > >think. > > > > My question is, at what age did you all move your children to a > > >toddler > > > > bed? > > > > > > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > > > > > > > 6-19-05 FAB 14-16/7 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > > Now you can have a huge leap forward in email: get the new > Yahoo! > > >Mail. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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