Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 , Interesting update. Great to hear that is doing so well, not so great about Dr. Frick. I would definitely be on him about the bracing protocol. I guess it is possible that he would know that the one child will need an ATTT even at this early age, I seem to recall Dr. P making that call early on about some kids -- I guess because of the tightness of that tendon he knew even as babies that they would need the procedure when they got to a certain age. Hope you were able to tell those two moms about this group! > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be released. > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process for the newbies. > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 oh, I hope they get that paper published soon... AND these docs read it. This trend with supposed good docs irritates me to no end. It seems rampant as of late... Good for you to talk to those moms. At minimum, will show him that they CAN wear the brace longer and it only means the best possible outcome. Hopefully those of us who know more than our docs about this will turn this around as their other patients have issues and our kids have none and perfect feet. here's to hoping... And congrats on her feet being so great! Such a great feeling to know all this is just a non-issue for their lives huh? Kori At 08:54 AM 3/13/2006, you wrote: > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned >2. Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we >saw Dr. Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H >recommended us to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper >together on patients who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) >who then switch to a qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for >more details on the paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is > excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot > patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H > said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I > also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients > they must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will > evaluate and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, > HELLO! Is he not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with > Dr. H? At the very least, he should be telling patients definitely > 3 years. At age 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is > necessary. Which many of us agree, probably. Better safe than > sorry. I told him, we will continue the FAB until at least 4. At > that point, I (not Dr. Frick apparently) will decide if she needs > to wear the FAB longer. I may even go to Dr. H. at that point to > see when he thinks she can be released. > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my > appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn > clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started > chatting. Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both > very curious about the s. Neither of them knew what was > coming next in the treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, > they know they get the brace, but have never seen either the > Markells and certainly not the s. Anyway, I wanted to know > about each of their treatments thus far. (I am sooooo > nosey)!! The one mom told me her sons feet were diagnosed as very > severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 years her son may need > surgery anyway because of the severity. My eyes lit up like the > Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming his own treatment > will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her bubble because I am > no doctor and I have already butt in her business. Then, she > continued to tell me that he said the FAB > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 > months of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB > wear. Now, I truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just > misheard him describing the treatment process. You know, doctors > tend to babble and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is > the end part. The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 > years in the FAB. I said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no > doctor. I don't know these people. They probably walked into > their appointment saying, this lady in the waiting room said blah, > blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is > relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In > addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think > he would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I > will continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment > process for the newbies. > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Mail >Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Hi . Even if a doctor can assume the baby may need surgery later on, I would think he would remain very optimistic, at least for the parents sake. We'll see how things go..... wrote: , Interesting update. Great to hear that is doing so well, not so great about Dr. Frick. I would definitely be on him about the bracing protocol. I guess it is possible that he would know that the one child will need an ATTT even at this early age, I seem to recall Dr. P making that call early on about some kids -- I guess because of the tightness of that tendon he knew even as babies that they would need the procedure when they got to a certain age. Hope you were able to tell those two moms about this group! > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be released. > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process for the newbies. > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Thanks Kori. I will probably go see Dr. H in a year or so, just to put my mind at ease...... frogabog wrote: oh, I hope they get that paper published soon... AND these docs read it. This trend with supposed good docs irritates me to no end. It seems rampant as of late... Good for you to talk to those moms. At minimum, will show him that they CAN wear the brace longer and it only means the best possible outcome. Hopefully those of us who know more than our docs about this will turn this around as their other patients have issues and our kids have none and perfect feet. here's to hoping... And congrats on her feet being so great! Such a great feeling to know all this is just a non-issue for their lives huh? Kori At 08:54 AM 3/13/2006, you wrote: > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned >2. Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we >saw Dr. Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H >recommended us to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper >together on patients who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) >who then switch to a qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for >more details on the paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is > excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot > patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H > said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I > also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients > they must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will > evaluate and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, > HELLO! Is he not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with > Dr. H? At the very least, he should be telling patients definitely > 3 years. At age 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is > necessary. Which many of us agree, probably. Better safe than > sorry. I told him, we will continue the FAB until at least 4. At > that point, I (not Dr. Frick apparently) will decide if she needs > to wear the FAB longer. I may even go to Dr. H. at that point to > see when he thinks she can be released. > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my > appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn > clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started > chatting. Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both > very curious about the s. Neither of them knew what was > coming next in the treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, > they know they get the brace, but have never seen either the > Markells and certainly not the s. Anyway, I wanted to know > about each of their treatments thus far. (I am sooooo > nosey)!! The one mom told me her sons feet were diagnosed as very > severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 years her son may need > surgery anyway because of the severity. My eyes lit up like the > Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming his own treatment > will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her bubble because I am > no doctor and I have already butt in her business. Then, she > continued to tell me that he said the FAB > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 > months of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB > wear. Now, I truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just > misheard him describing the treatment process. You know, doctors > tend to babble and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is > the end part. The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 > years in the FAB. I said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no > doctor. I don't know these people. They probably walked into > their appointment saying, this lady in the waiting room said blah, > blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is > relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In > addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think > he would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I > will continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment > process for the newbies. > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Mail >Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 Oh I agree. I was just trying to be optimistic. : ) > > > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. > Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. > Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us > to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients > who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a > qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the > paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is > excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot > patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H > said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I > also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they > must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate > and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he > not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the > very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age > 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which > many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we > will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. > Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I > may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be > released. > > > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my > appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn > clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. > Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious > about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the > treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get > the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not > the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their > treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her > sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 > years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My > eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming > his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her > bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. > Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months > of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I > truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him > describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble > and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. > The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I > said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these > people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady > in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is > relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In > addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he > would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will > continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process > for the newbies. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hi , It’s good to hear that ’s feet are doing so well! Congratulations! I am hoping for good news also from Dr. H on Friday. I had his feet checked again for size because the one shoe kept falling off and they said that there is almost a ½ size difference between his feet. They don’t’ think I need two different size shoes for him. I really thought that was the problem. Mommy to (12/17/98) and Christian (1/30/04) LCF _____ From: nosurgery4clubfoot [mailto:nosurgery4clubfoot ] On Behalf Of Shook Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:00 PM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: Re: Update on /Dr. Frick Hi . Even if a doctor can assume the baby may need surgery later on, I would think he would remain very optimistic, at least for the parents sake. We'll see how things go..... wrote: , Interesting update. Great to hear that is doing so well, not so great about Dr. Frick. I would definitely be on him about the bracing protocol. I guess it is possible that he would know that the one child will need an ATTT even at this early age, I seem to recall Dr. P making that call early on about some kids -- I guess because of the tightness of that tendon he knew even as babies that they would need the procedure when they got to a certain age. Hope you were able to tell those two moms about this group! > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be released. > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process for the newbies. > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 Hi . I would try 2 different size shoes anyway. If it is still falling off, then you know for sure the size isn't the issue. It is worth a try at least. Good luck on Friday! Gerace wrote: Hi , It’s good to hear that ’s feet are doing so well! Congratulations! I am hoping for good news also from Dr. H on Friday. I had his feet checked again for size because the one shoe kept falling off and they said that there is almost a ½ size difference between his feet. They don’t’ think I need two different size shoes for him. I really thought that was the problem. Mommy to (12/17/98) and Christian (1/30/04) LCF _____ From: nosurgery4clubfoot [mailto:nosurgery4clubfoot ] On Behalf Of Shook Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:00 PM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: Re: Update on /Dr. Frick Hi . Even if a doctor can assume the baby may need surgery later on, I would think he would remain very optimistic, at least for the parents sake. We'll see how things go..... wrote: , Interesting update. Great to hear that is doing so well, not so great about Dr. Frick. I would definitely be on him about the bracing protocol. I guess it is possible that he would know that the one child will need an ATTT even at this early age, I seem to recall Dr. P making that call early on about some kids -- I guess because of the tightness of that tendon he knew even as babies that they would need the procedure when they got to a certain age. Hope you were able to tell those two moms about this group! > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be released. > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process for the newbies. > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 , That is just nonsense, if his feet are two different sizes and one shoe is falling off I would definitely try two different size shoes. Is this his regular shoes or his Markells? I would be insistent upon it if you are talking about his Markells. allison > > > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. > Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. > Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us > to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients > who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a > qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the > paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is > excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot > patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H > said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I > also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they > must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate > and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he > not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the > very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age > 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which > many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we > will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. > Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I > may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be > released. > > > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my > appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn > clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. > Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious > about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the > treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get > the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not > the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their > treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her > sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 > years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My > eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming > his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her > bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. > Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months > of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I > truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him > describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble > and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. > The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I > said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these > people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady > in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is > relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In > addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he > would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will > continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process > for the newbies. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 , His Markels stay on at night. Its his regular sneakers that I have this problem with. That shoe must come off his foot 10 times a day! I tied it as tight as I could without hurting him and it still comes off. If there was a problem with his foot the Markels would be hurting or coming off right? He still complains about some pain in his foot but that goes away with Tylenol. I just can’t wait to see the doctor on Friday. Mommy to (12/17/98) and Christian (1/30/04) LCF _____ From: nosurgery4clubfoot [mailto:nosurgery4clubfoot ] On Behalf Of Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:07 PM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: Update on /Dr. Frick , That is just nonsense, if his feet are two different sizes and one shoe is falling off I would definitely try two different size shoes. Is this his regular shoes or his Markells? I would be insistent upon it if you are talking about his Markells. allison > > > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. > Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. > Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us > to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients > who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a > qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the > paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is > excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot > patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H > said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I > also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they > must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate > and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he > not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the > very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age > 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which > many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we > will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. > Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I > may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be > released. > > > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my > appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn > clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. > Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious > about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the > treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get > the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not > the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their > treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her > sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 > years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My > eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming > his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her > bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. > Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months > of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I > truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him > describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble > and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. > The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I > said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these > people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady > in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is > relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In > addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he > would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will > continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process > for the newbies. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 , I would try getting him a 1/2 size smaller for that foot in regular shoes. Even if the shoe store person doesn't think it is necessary. An " almost " 1/2 size difference might not make a big difference as he gets older, but it just might be enough of a difference to make that shoe too big allowing it to slip off now while his feet are littler. allison > > > > > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. > > Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. > > Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us > > to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients > > who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a > > qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the > > paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > > > > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is > > excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot > > patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H > > said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I > > also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > > > > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they > > must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate > > and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he > > not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the > > very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age > > 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which > > many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we > > will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. > > Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I > > may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be > > released. > > > > > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my > > appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn > > clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. > > Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious > > about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the > > treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get > > the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not > > the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their > > treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her > > sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 > > years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My > > eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming > > his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her > > bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. > > Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > > > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months > > of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I > > truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him > > describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble > > and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. > > The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I > > said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these > > people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady > > in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > > > > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is > > relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In > > addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he > > would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will > > continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process > > for the newbies. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Mail > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 , is he tripping at all or clumsy with the one shoe being bigger on him then the other one? If not, I would just shove some wadded up kleenex or something soft into the toe to keep his foot seated properly. You could also look at putting an insole in it as well instead of having to buy 2 different sizes...just my thoughts. & Grace > > > > > > had her check-up today with Dr. Frick. She just turned 2. > > Yikes, where did the time go. Anyway, as many of you know, we saw Dr. > > Herzenberg, but we just moved to Charlotte, NC. Dr. H recommended us > > to Dr. Frick. I guess they are writing a paper together on patients > > who start with a bad doctor (like many of us) who then switch to a > > qualified doc in the method. I didn't ask for more details on the > > paper. I am just getting to know him at this point. > > > > > > Anyhoo, he said 's feet look great. Her dorsiflexion is > > excellent, 15-20 (I think). He said he wished all of his clubfoot > > patients feet look as good. I found that interesting because Dr. H > > said the same thing at her last check-up with him 6 months ago. I > > also mentioned how strict we are with the brace, etc. etc. > > > > > > Here is where I have an issue. He said he tells his patients they > > must wear the brace until at least 2. At that point, he will evaluate > > and determine if they need to wear them longer. Okay, HELLO! Is he > > not with the program? Isn't he writing a paper with Dr. H? At the > > very least, he should be telling patients definitely 3 years. At age > > 3, evaluate and determine if continued FAB wear is necessary. Which > > many of us agree, probably. Better safe than sorry. I told him, we > > will continue the FAB until at least 4. At that point, I (not Dr. > > Frick apparently) will decide if she needs to wear the FAB longer. I > > may even go to Dr. H. at that point to see when he thinks she can be > > released. > > > > > > Okay, it gets more interesting....................After my > > appointment, there were 2 moms in the waiting room with newborn > > clubfoot babies. So, nosey me, went on over and started chatting. > > Both of them are in the casting stage. They were both very curious > > about the s. Neither of them knew what was coming next in the > > treatment process as far as the FAB goes. Well, they know they get > > the brace, but have never seen either the Markells and certainly not > > the s. Anyway, I wanted to know about each of their > > treatments thus far. (I am sooooo nosey)!! The one mom told me her > > sons feet were diagnosed as very severe. Dr. Frick told her that at 2 > > years her son may need surgery anyway because of the severity. My > > eyes lit up like the Rockerfeller Center Xmas tree. So he is assuming > > his own treatment will be a failure? I didn't want to burst her > > bubble because I am no doctor and I have already butt in her business. > > Then, she continued to tell me that he said the FAB > > > wear will be nights and naps only. I said after the first 3 months > > of 23/7. She said, he never mentioned the 23/7 FAB wear. Now, I > > truly have to believe (hoping anyway) that she just misheard him > > describing the treatment process. You know, doctors tend to babble > > and your mind starts to wonder, then all you hear is the end part. > > The other mother also said Dr. Frick told her 2 years in the FAB. I > > said, I wouldn't count on it, but I am no doctor. I don't know these > > people. They probably walked into their appointment saying, this lady > > in the waiting room said blah, blah, blah..............Ugh!!!! > > > > > > I am not here to bash Dr. Frick. I also have to think he is > > relatively conpetent if he is working with Dr. Herzenberg. In > > addition, he is on Ponseti's list of qualified docs. I also think he > > would be able to identify a regression or something wrong. I will > > continue our check-ups with him, but I question the treatment process > > for the newbies. > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Mail > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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