Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 I've never held a Dobbs bar in my hands but the process of fitting a shoe to it (having used them) seems like it would be fairly straight foward, and how great for the kids, too! s. shoes/Dobbs bar I emailed Dr. Dobbs a few days ago regarding the possibility of developing an articulating bar that can attach to the shoes. He put me in touch with his orthotist, who said that they are actually looking into that. The shoes would be attached to the articulating Dobbs bar, thereby making the whole brace wear thing a little more comfortable for the children. He actually mentioned that if I send him the shoes and the bar he would try to adapt it to the articulating bar now. I told him it isn't possible since my son is in the brace 23/7. Anyway, I told him there may be a few parents who may be interested in doing the whole conversion to the shoes/Dobbs bar. He said he will email me when they come up with something that will work as far as an attachment. I'll let everyone know when I hear something back. Mom to Marcus 11/05 LCF - s 23/7 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2006 Report Share Posted February 27, 2006 Yes, I think it would just be a matter of fitting the end part of the P/M brace on to the end of the articulating piece of the Dobbs' bar instead of the gold bar end that they use now. Dr. Dobbs and have been talking about getting this together for a while now, I just think that they are both so busy that it is difficult for them to find the time to do it. Does anyone have an old P/M brace that could be sent to Dr. Dobbs Orthotics people? That might be just what we need to get the ball rolling on this thing! > > I've never held a Dobbs bar in my hands but the process of fitting a shoe to it (having used them) seems like it would be fairly straight foward, and how great for the kids, too! > s. > > shoes/Dobbs bar > > > I emailed Dr. Dobbs a few days ago regarding the possibility of developing an articulating bar that can attach to the shoes. He put me in touch with his orthotist, who said that they are actually looking into that. The shoes would be attached to the articulating Dobbs bar, thereby making the whole brace wear thing a little more comfortable for the children. He actually mentioned that if I send him the shoes and the bar he would try to adapt it to the articulating bar now. I told him it isn't possible since my son is in the brace 23/7. Anyway, I told him there may be a few parents who may be interested in doing the whole conversion to the shoes/Dobbs bar. He said he will email me when they come up with something that will work as far as an attachment. I'll let everyone know when I hear something back. > > Mom to Marcus 11/05 LCF - s 23/7 > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Just a quick update... I got a reply from Dr. Dobbs' orthotist saying they were able to get a brace and are now working on making the attachment to fit the shoes to the articulating Dobbs bar. needing prayers wrote: I emailed Dr. Dobbs a few days ago regarding the possibility of developing an articulating bar that can attach to the shoes. He put me in touch with his orthotist, who said that they are actually looking into that. The shoes would be attached to the articulating Dobbs bar, thereby making the whole brace wear thing a little more comfortable for the children. He actually mentioned that if I send him the shoes and the bar he would try to adapt it to the articulating bar now. I told him it isn't possible since my son is in the brace 23/7. Anyway, I told him there may be a few parents who may be interested in doing the whole conversion to the shoes/Dobbs bar. He said he will email me when they come up with something that will work as far as an attachment. I'll let everyone know when I hear something back. Mom to Marcus 11/05 LCF - s 23/7 --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 I have Everett's last pair of shoes but figured I probably ought to hold on to them, might be using them again before long. s. shoes/Dobbs bar > > > I emailed Dr. Dobbs a few days ago regarding the possibility of developing an articulating bar that can attach to the shoes. He put me in touch with his orthotist, who said that they are actually looking into that. The shoes would be attached to the articulating Dobbs bar, thereby making the whole brace wear thing a little more comfortable for the children. He actually mentioned that if I send him the shoes and the bar he would try to adapt it to the articulating bar now. I told him it isn't possible since my son is in the brace 23/7. Anyway, I told him there may be a few parents who may be interested in doing the whole conversion to the shoes/Dobbs bar. He said he will email me when they come up with something that will work as far as an attachment. I'll let everyone know when I hear something back. > > Mom to Marcus 11/05 LCF - s 23/7 > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 I'm just wondering if Dr. Ponseti knows about this and what his thoughts are on it. Is is safe for them to be able to move their legs like that at different times? Does it alter the point of using a FAB? I guess I always thought that keeping their legs moving together was part of keeping correction. It doesnt pose a higher chance of relapse? If not, I would love one of these bars when they get them figured out! Christee Mother of... *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) & ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 It's experimental at this point, but Dr. Dobbs told me it's been in use for a few years now with no ill consequences yet. It still holds the actual foot at the correct angle/dorsiflexion. If you look in the photos you can see the bar in action and understand more easily how it can achieve both goals (mobility yet correction). It's an exciting new alternative - I'm all for the idea, but one does need to keep in mind it if fairly new and therefore I'd still consider it experimental. But then again, so are the 's and I use them exclusively. s. Re: Re: shoes/Dobbs bar I'm just wondering if Dr. Ponseti knows about this and what his thoughts are on it. Is is safe for them to be able to move their legs like that at different times? Does it alter the point of using a FAB? I guess I always thought that keeping their legs moving together was part of keeping correction. It doesnt pose a higher chance of relapse? If not, I would love one of these bars when they get them figured out! Christee Mother of... *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) & ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 number23 Do you have a Instant Messenger? I have yahoo messenger. number23 wrote: It's experimental at this point, but Dr. Dobbs told me it's been in use for a few years now with no ill consequences yet. It still holds the actual foot at the correct angle/dorsiflexion. If you look in the photos you can see the bar in action and understand more easily how it can achieve both goals (mobility yet correction). It's an exciting new alternative - I'm all for the idea, but one does need to keep in mind it if fairly new and therefore I'd still consider it experimental. But then again, so are the 's and I use them exclusively. s. Re: Re: shoes/Dobbs bar I'm just wondering if Dr. Ponseti knows about this and what his thoughts are on it. Is is safe for them to be able to move their legs like that at different times? Does it alter the point of using a FAB? I guess I always thought that keeping their legs moving together was part of keeping correction. It doesnt pose a higher chance of relapse? If not, I would love one of these bars when they get them figured out! Christee Mother of... *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) & ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Um.... I doubt it! LOL! If it's in the computer I'm not aware of it but you can mail me off-group if you want to. If you're having 2nd thoughts about the Dobb's bar I'd just say first of all, it's had excellent results so far, and secondly if you are uncomfortable with it, I believe Dobbs would let you use a Markell or instead. s. ----- number23 Do you have a Instant Messenger? I have yahoo messenger. number23 wrote: It's experimental at this point, but Dr. Dobbs told me it's been in use for a few years now with no ill consequences yet. It still holds the actual foot at the correct angle/dorsiflexion. If you look in the photos you can see the bar in action and understand more easily how it can achieve both goals (mobility yet correction). It's an exciting new alternative - I'm all for the idea, but one does need to keep in mind it if fairly new and therefore I'd still consider it experimental. But then again, so are the 's and I use them exclusively. s. Re: Re: shoes/Dobbs bar I'm just wondering if Dr. Ponseti knows about this and what his thoughts are on it. Is is safe for them to be able to move their legs like that at different times? Does it alter the point of using a FAB? I guess I always thought that keeping their legs moving together was part of keeping correction. It doesnt pose a higher chance of relapse? If not, I would love one of these bars when they get them figured out! Christee Mother of... *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) & ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Christee, To answer your first question, Yes, Dr. Ponseti knows about the Dobbs bar, he and Dr. Dobbs have worked together very closely for a long time now, I think it is around 12 years. Dr. Ponseti even has some of his patients who were not able to wear the s for one reason or another in the Dobbs brace. The Dobbs bar still maintains the outward rotation of the feet, they are fixed at 70 or 45 degrees or whatever your doc has them set at. It also maintains dorsiflexion when the feet are at rest in a sitting position. In addition it allows the child who is standing and cruising in the brace to get additional stretch to the achilles by allowing them to flex their foot up and down (if it is used with the Markells). If it is used with the AFO style shoe there is a slight dorsiflexion built into the AFO but it will hold the foot static while the brace is being worn. I'm fairly certain because of the flexibility of the P/M's that the dobbs bar attached to them will allow the same stretch of the achilles that the Markells do. Really the only difference between this and the fixed bar is that the child is moving their legs is up and down individually instead of together. Which of course is a big deal. has a link to the tips document for the Dobbs brace on her site here: http://members.tripod.com/ponseti_links- ivil/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderfiles/dobbs_brace_guide2.pdf It is somewhat easier to visualize if you can actually see it. Of course Dr. Dobbs studies are not finalized yet, but he has been using the bar in some shape or form for about 5 years now (IIRC) and has not seen an increase in relapses. Hope this helps, > > I'm just wondering if Dr. Ponseti knows about this and what his thoughts are on it. Is is safe for them to be able to move their legs like that at different times? Does it alter the point of using a FAB? I guess I always thought that keeping their legs moving together was part of keeping correction. It doesnt pose a higher chance of relapse? If not, I would love one of these bars when they get them figured out! > > Christee > Mother of... > *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) > **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) > ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) > & > ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). > *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Christee, I also wanted to ask you if Kori had said anything to you about the Dobbs brace. When you were having trouble the other day with Lilee's sores and having to sort of " redesign " the P/M's I mentioned to her that you might want to ask Dr. P what he would think about putting Lilee in Dr. Dobbs' modified AFO/articulating bar set up. Look at that document I just linked for you, it will show you how the " shoe " fits nice and snug but the straps never touch the foot. I know Lilee is Atypical and so I don't know if these would work for her or not. I think on one hand they could help because of the strap not digging into the foot, but on the otherhand, if they wouldn't hold her foot properly because of it being atypical then that would be no good. But anyway, I just thought I would throw that idea out there as something you might want to run by Dr. Ponseti if you continue having problems with her getting these sores. HTH, > > > > I'm just wondering if Dr. Ponseti knows about this and what his > thoughts are on it. Is is safe for them to be able to move their legs > like that at different times? Does it alter the point of using a FAB? > I guess I always thought that keeping their legs moving together was > part of keeping correction. It doesnt pose a higher chance of > relapse? If not, I would love one of these bars when they get them > figured out! > > > > Christee > > Mother of... > > *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory > sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) > > **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) > > ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) > > & > > ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot > w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L > foot). > > *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2006 Report Share Posted February 28, 2006 Having trouble with the link you sent. Can you send it again? I also wanted to let everyone know that thanks to Kori and some others, someone suggested DupDerm to put on Lilees sores. It seems that they ARE healing! YAY! She has a follow up with her Ped. Dr. on Fri. I will look at the Dobbs bar, and maybe when he figures something out with the s or before if she can wear them, I w ill seee what Dr. P says if the new position/strap doesnt work with the Michells..... Christee Mother of... *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) & ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 I got one. I need to send shoes back to though. if I could get a pair of shoes for the bar I'll send it. Kori At 12:35 PM 2/27/2006, you wrote: >Yes, I think it would just be a matter of fitting the end part of the >P/M brace on to the end of the articulating piece of the Dobbs' bar >instead of the gold bar end that they use now. Dr. Dobbs and > have been talking about getting this together for a while >now, I just think that they are both so busy that it is difficult for >them to find the time to do it. Does anyone have an old P/M brace >that could be sent to Dr. Dobbs Orthotics people? That might be just >what we need to get the ball rolling on this thing! > > > > > > > > > I've never held a Dobbs bar in my hands but the process of fitting >a shoe to it (having used them) seems like it would be >fairly straight foward, and how great for the kids, too! > > s. > > > > shoes/Dobbs bar > > > > > > I emailed Dr. Dobbs a few days ago regarding the possibility of >developing an articulating bar that can attach to the shoes. >He put me in touch with his orthotist, who said that they are >actually looking into that. The shoes would be attached to >the articulating Dobbs bar, thereby making the whole brace wear thing >a little more comfortable for the children. He actually mentioned >that if I send him the shoes and the bar he would try to >adapt it to the articulating bar now. I told him it isn't possible >since my son is in the brace 23/7. Anyway, I told him there may be a >few parents who may be interested in doing the whole conversion to >the shoes/Dobbs bar. He said he will email me when they come >up with something that will work as far as an attachment. I'll let >everyone know when I hear something back. > > > > Mom to Marcus 11/05 LCF - s 23/7 > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 no, you keep your shoes! If anyone keeps shoes, it's you lol At 02:44 PM 2/28/2006, you wrote: >I'm just wondering if Dr. Ponseti knows about this and what his >thoughts are on it. Is is safe for them to be able to move their >legs like that at different times? Does it alter the point of using >a FAB? I guess I always thought that keeping their legs moving >together was part of keeping correction. It doesnt pose a higher >chance of relapse? If not, I would love one of these bars when they >get them figured out! > > Christee > Mother of... > *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory > sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) > **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) > ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) > & > ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot > w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). > *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Yahoo! Mail >Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 Kori, I don't think they need one anymore. Dr. Dobbs' orthostist emailed me back saying they were able to get their hands on a brace and were now working on making the attachment. frogabog wrote: I got one. I need to send shoes back to though. if I could get a pair of shoes for the bar I'll send it. Kori At 12:35 PM 2/27/2006, you wrote: >Yes, I think it would just be a matter of fitting the end part of the >P/M brace on to the end of the articulating piece of the Dobbs' bar >instead of the gold bar end that they use now. Dr. Dobbs and > have been talking about getting this together for a while >now, I just think that they are both so busy that it is difficult for >them to find the time to do it. Does anyone have an old P/M brace >that could be sent to Dr. Dobbs Orthotics people? That might be just >what we need to get the ball rolling on this thing! > > > > > > > > > I've never held a Dobbs bar in my hands but the process of fitting >a shoe to it (having used them) seems like it would be >fairly straight foward, and how great for the kids, too! > > s. > > > > shoes/Dobbs bar > > > > > > I emailed Dr. Dobbs a few days ago regarding the possibility of >developing an articulating bar that can attach to the shoes. >He put me in touch with his orthotist, who said that they are >actually looking into that. The shoes would be attached to >the articulating Dobbs bar, thereby making the whole brace wear thing >a little more comfortable for the children. He actually mentioned >that if I send him the shoes and the bar he would try to >adapt it to the articulating bar now. I told him it isn't possible >since my son is in the brace 23/7. Anyway, I told him there may be a >few parents who may be interested in doing the whole conversion to >the shoes/Dobbs bar. He said he will email me when they come >up with something that will work as far as an attachment. I'll let >everyone know when I hear something back. > > > > Mom to Marcus 11/05 LCF - s 23/7 > > > > --------------------------------- > > Yahoo! Mail > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 ok, cool. Thanks for telling me. you know... by putting these on the Dobbs bar it completely negates that flat standing I love so much. :~{ not that I don't want them to integrate... no, not at all. I am just sad to think that great aspect of the shoes will not be there when they do. Kori At 09:51 AM 3/1/2006, you wrote: >Kori, > I don't think they need one anymore. Dr. Dobbs' orthostist > emailed me back saying they were able to get their hands on a > brace and were now working on making the attachment. > >frogabog wrote: > I got one. I need to send shoes back to though. if I could get >a pair of shoes for the bar I'll send it. > >Kori > > >At 12:35 PM 2/27/2006, you wrote: > >Yes, I think it would just be a matter of fitting the end part of the > >P/M brace on to the end of the articulating piece of the Dobbs' bar > >instead of the gold bar end that they use now. Dr. Dobbs and > > have been talking about getting this together for a while > >now, I just think that they are both so busy that it is difficult for > >them to find the time to do it. Does anyone have an old P/M brace > >that could be sent to Dr. Dobbs Orthotics people? That might be just > >what we need to get the ball rolling on this thing! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've never held a Dobbs bar in my hands but the process of fitting > >a shoe to it (having used them) seems like it would be > >fairly straight foward, and how great for the kids, too! > > > s. > > > > > > shoes/Dobbs bar > > > > > > > > > I emailed Dr. Dobbs a few days ago regarding the possibility of > >developing an articulating bar that can attach to the shoes. > >He put me in touch with his orthotist, who said that they are > >actually looking into that. The shoes would be attached to > >the articulating Dobbs bar, thereby making the whole brace wear thing > >a little more comfortable for the children. He actually mentioned > >that if I send him the shoes and the bar he would try to > >adapt it to the articulating bar now. I told him it isn't possible > >since my son is in the brace 23/7. Anyway, I told him there may be a > >few parents who may be interested in doing the whole conversion to > >the shoes/Dobbs bar. He said he will email me when they come > >up with something that will work as far as an attachment. I'll let > >everyone know when I hear something back. > > > > > > Mom to Marcus 11/05 LCF - s 23/7 > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > Yahoo! Mail > > > Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 I wasnt going to send the ones she's in silly...lol Christee Mother of... *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) & ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2006 Report Share Posted March 1, 2006 OMG I was trying to respond to ee! Not you lol. THAT's why there was this reply open with nothing in it last night. I couldn't figure out why I'd replied twice cuz I KNEW I saw my reply post to the list. doh! sorry! I meant that ee needed to keep her shoes for that little babe who is fully cooked as of today. Kori .. At 02:58 PM 3/1/2006, you wrote: >I wasnt going to send the ones she's in silly...lol > > > > Christee > Mother of... > *Josh, Central Auditory Processing Disorder/Sensory > sensitivity/learning & Speech disorders (9yrs old) > **Aspen, Bilateral minor Metatarsus Adductus (5 1/2 yrs old) > ***Dylan, (4 yrs old) > & > ****Lilee ~ Unilateral A-Typical (complex) Club Foot > w/Cavus/Plantaris (R foot) & Mild/Moderate Metatarsus Adductus (L foot). > *Ponseti/ Brace 18/24. > > > > > > >--------------------------------- >Brings words and photos together (easily) with > PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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