Re: CHATand a RANT- Adam and school issues and GHT

[Guest guest]

Exactly my point. I will have him for this one. Firstly due to Adam's low

muscle tone, if he is going to expend energy " writing " it should be on his

WORK and not copying. Secondly NO WHERE in the curriculum does it say

students need to learn to copy from the board. That is a teacher strategy,

and as you have noted, a highly ineffective one. The more I listen to this

man the more I am hearing the same message " academically I don't care what

he does, I just want him sitting quietly and doing work!! " UGH.

But I still maintain, after A LOT of thought last night, I will not move

Adam out of the class (I had one friend suggest I move him out of the

school) because he is bound to meet these dinosaur teacher(s) in his high

school career and he is going to have to learn to " play the game " and keep

himself out of the line of fire. That's what I am working on with him right

now.

Last night he had A TON of homework (but he got his back up over the copying

part and refused to work at school) and I just went to bed. I think he

finished at midnight. I had his needle on my night stand and I told him to

wake ME up when he was going to bed and I would " do " the needle. He was

shocked that I would leave him up alone like that. But I said " you chose to

not work at school, so you have to do it now, but for ME I was not part of

this decision so I should not have to stay up with you " . He did all that

work (I checked his bag already this morning). And he did a good job. He had

NO help and yet he did it. It's not that he *can't*; but when he is being

badgered all day long (now he absolutely refuses to eat in the classroom; I

suspect the teacher is giving him a hard time when he first tries to eat and

so he is avoiding being centred out in front of his classmates and avoiding

the ridicule) anyway, when he's badgered like that, well Adam is a stubborn

kid, he is going to refuse to work.

My friend did raise a good point. If and when I get a meeting with this man

and the principal and this teacher starts up with he's trying to do this and

that and that to make Adam " better " I am going to take a Dr. Phil quote " and

how's that working for you? " Because that is this guy's beef; it's not

working. And I can follow with " but for the last 7 or 8 years teachers who

follow his IEP have found THAT DOES work " .

UGH. Don't get me started again.

I have to go to a workshop today with our principal so I plan to ask for the

meeting while we are there, but I just realized this morning that with the

new school alignments that principal from my other school will be there too

and I am NOT looking forward to having that man in my face.

(Mind you I have already decided if it gets to be too overpowering for me

and my anxiety starts to build, more that it already is) I will just " become

sick " and leave.

Prove it!!

Sorry for the rant.

Debby

Re: CHAT Deb - Adam and school issues and GHT

> Deb,

>

> I NEVER make my students copy the math questions from the board or

> from the book. I write them on paper myself and photocopy them for

> everyone. Then we use the book or board as a guide. Today we were

> doing subtraction with regrouping. I did the problem on the board

> first and then had the kids do the same problem on the paper I had

> given them. Copying is a waste of time. I don't even make them do

> all the problems on the page in the book. No need. If they can do 10

> correctly, why do 25?

>

> Jodi Z

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[Guest guest]

Deb - first of all - DO NOT APOLOGIZE FOR RANTING. Understand me?

Secondly, don't hope to get an appointment with that principal - you

are demanding one - right? Do I need to have a discussion with this

teacher? I'm starting to get mad. I don't like being mad. I'm not

nice when I'm mad. You can tell him that.

Thirdly - about this anxiety thing. Don't go down that road -

okay? Not a good idea. Please, please take a deep breath, take a

time-out, realx your body and think of good thoughts. I've had

anxiety attacks and they are no fun. It's very scary. So.....I've

learned that I have to stop thinking entirely about the situation.

You need to remove yourself from it Deb. No caffeine, No sugar, No

complex carbs - No alcohol <grin> - just a little protein. Have

some chicken and peas for dinner. If you are hungry - have some

peanut butter on crackers. If you are still hungry - have some more

chicken or beef. You can add the complex carbs and sugars

tomorrow. No milk. Just water. Then, put up your feet and relax.

Getting upset and anxious is not going to help your back.

Now, I want you to remember what a nice person you are. How helpful

you are to so many people here. How you have helped your self and

your son. Remember what a great teacher you are. Remember how

pretty you are. Remember what a great sense of humor you have.

Remember how sweet you are. Remember how much fun you are when

playing euchre with your friends. Remember how much your son loves

you. Remember how much we love you.

I received your e-mail - but, after this I'm going to wake up the

boys, get dinner ready and clean up my house. (And hide my new

shoes) <he he he>. I'll try to see how you are doing this evening.

Okay?

- H

>

> Exactly my point. I will have him for this one. Firstly due to

Adam's low

> muscle tone, if he is going to expend energy " writing " it should

be on his

> WORK and not copying. Secondly NO WHERE in the curriculum does it

say

> students need to learn to copy from the board. That is a teacher

strategy,

> and as you have noted, a highly ineffective one. The more I listen

to this

> man the more I am hearing the same message " academically I don't

care what

> he does, I just want him sitting quietly and doing work!! " UGH.

> But I still maintain, after A LOT of thought last night, I will

not move

> Adam out of the class (I had one friend suggest I move him out of

the

> school) because he is bound to meet these dinosaur teacher(s) in

his high

> school career and he is going to have to learn to " play the game "

and keep

> himself out of the line of fire. That's what I am working on with

him right

> now.

>

> Last night he had A TON of homework (but he got his back up over

the copying

> part and refused to work at school) and I just went to bed. I

think he

> finished at midnight. I had his needle on my night stand and I

told him to

> wake ME up when he was going to bed and I would " do " the needle.

He was

> shocked that I would leave him up alone like that. But I said " you

chose to

> not work at school, so you have to do it now, but for ME I was not

part of

> this decision so I should not have to stay up with you " . He did

all that

> work (I checked his bag already this morning). And he did a good

job. He had

> NO help and yet he did it. It's not that he *can't*; but when he

is being

> badgered all day long (now he absolutely refuses to eat in the

classroom; I

> suspect the teacher is giving him a hard time when he first tries

to eat and

> so he is avoiding being centred out in front of his classmates and

avoiding

> the ridicule) anyway, when he's badgered like that, well Adam is a

stubborn

> kid, he is going to refuse to work.

> My friend did raise a good point. If and when I get a meeting with

this man

> and the principal and this teacher starts up with he's trying to

do this and

> that and that to make Adam " better " I am going to take a Dr. Phil

quote " and

> how's that working for you? " Because that is this guy's beef; it's

not

> working. And I can follow with " but for the last 7 or 8 years

teachers who

> follow his IEP have found THAT DOES work " .

> UGH. Don't get me started again.

> I have to go to a workshop today with our principal so I plan to

ask for the

> meeting while we are there, but I just realized this morning that

with the

> new school alignments that principal from my other school will be

there too

> and I am NOT looking forward to having that man in my face.

> (Mind you I have already decided if it gets to be too overpowering

for me

> and my anxiety starts to build, more that it already is) I will

just " become

> sick " and leave.

> Prove it!!

> Sorry for the rant.

> Debby

>

>

> Re: CHAT Deb - Adam and school issues and

GHT

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> > Deb,

> >

> > I NEVER make my students copy the math questions from the board

or

> > from the book. I write them on paper myself and photocopy them

for

> > everyone. Then we use the book or board as a guide. Today we

were

> > doing subtraction with regrouping. I did the problem on the

board

> > first and then had the kids do the same problem on the paper I

had

> > given them. Copying is a waste of time. I don't even make them

do

> > all the problems on the page in the book. No need. If they can

do 10

> > correctly, why do 25?

> >

> > Jodi Z

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >