Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 OK.....MAYBE IM NOT GETTING THIS RIGHT.....AND IM NOT ONE TO START A FIGHT......BUT ARE YOU SAYING PEOPLE WHO HAVE RNY ARE STUPID? I REALLY HOPE NOT........THATS JUST IMATURE. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT SURGERIES FOR DIFFERENT REASONS.......I THOUGHT EVERYONE KNEW THAT BY NOW.........................: ) LISA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT I GUESS. I DONT GET SOME PEOPLE. I AM HAVING RNY BECAUSE I NEED MORE RESTRICTION IN MY LIFE....HOW AM I GOING TO LOSE WEIGHT IF I LOVE TO EAT SUGAR? I NEED TO CHANGE MY LIFE.......IF I HAVE DS.....I WILL BEABLE TO EAT ALL THOSE THINGS RIGHT? SO IN MY SITUATION.......DS WOULD BE POINTLESS. THATS ALL IM SAYING......AND ALSO.....ANY WLS IS DRASTIC.......THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS OK TO CRITICISE SOMEONE WHO IS HAVING RNY DONE. THEY ARE ALL DRASTIC AND LIFE CHANGING......THATS WHY I SIGNED UP FOR THIS LIST.......FOR GROUP SUPPORT FOR WLS PERIOD. NOT TO BE MADE TO FEEL LIKE IM STUPID, BECAUSE I CHOSE A DIFFERENT SURGERY THAN YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 HUH??!! Where you been, Baby? Yeah, many of us DO say that (and have been saying it many, many times for the last couple days). Of course we couch it in more eloquent terms, of course, and qualify it a bit with mumblings about medical contraindications, etc. Did you miss a lot of posts just recently? Best, > OK.....MAYBE IM NOT GETTING THIS RIGHT.....AND IM NOT ONE TO START A > FIGHT......BUT ARE YOU SAYING PEOPLE WHO HAVE RNY ARE STUPID? I REALLY HOPE > NOT........THATS JUST IMATURE. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT SURGERIES FOR DIFFERENT > REASONS.......I THOUGHT EVERYONE KNEW THAT BY NOW.........................: ) > LISA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 Oh, my dear, don't get upset. You haven't had any WLS, right? Good. Take the time to look at all the medical studies (many posted on the duodenalswitch.com site?) and at Hull's wonderful compilation of data (much of it posted under " files " ?). Study, and then study some more. (who also loves sugar and can't imagine a life without ever again being able to eat SOME; OK--maybe a lot a couple times a year, like Christmas and Thanksgiving. And birthdays. And St. Valentine's Day. Labor Day? Flag Day? Columbus Day?) > SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT I GUESS. I DONT GET SOME PEOPLE. I AM HAVING > RNY BECAUSE I NEED MORE RESTRICTION IN MY LIFE....HOW AM I GOING TO LOSE > WEIGHT IF I LOVE TO EAT SUGAR? I NEED TO CHANGE MY LIFE.......IF I HAVE > DS.....I WILL BEABLE TO EAT ALL THOSE THINGS RIGHT? SO IN MY > SITUATION.......DS WOULD BE POINTLESS. THATS ALL IM SAYING......AND > ALSO.....ANY WLS IS DRASTIC.......THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS OK TO CRITICISE > SOMEONE WHO IS HAVING RNY DONE. THEY ARE ALL DRASTIC AND LIFE > CHANGING......THATS WHY I SIGNED UP FOR THIS LIST.......FOR GROUP SUPPORT FOR > WLS PERIOD. NOT TO BE MADE TO FEEL LIKE IM STUPID, BECAUSE I CHOSE A > DIFFERENT SURGERY THAN YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 - You are so right. People do get the RNY for different reasons than people have for getting the DS. That is as far as my agreement goes, though. That difference is that people who get the RNY haven't cared enough to find out what their alternatives are. I guess that's another way of saying that willing RNY patients are STUPID. Best - Nick, to whom, at age 60, being called immature is a compliment Re: DARE TO BE STUPID > OK.....MAYBE IM NOT GETTING THIS RIGHT.....AND IM NOT ONE TO START A > FIGHT......BUT ARE YOU SAYING PEOPLE WHO HAVE RNY ARE STUPID? I REALLY HOPE > NOT........THATS JUST IMATURE. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT SURGERIES FOR DIFFERENT > REASONS.......I THOUGHT EVERYONE KNEW THAT BY NOW.........................: ) > LISA > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 In a message dated 11/26/01 9:02:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, duodenalswitch writes: << SO IN MY > SITUATION.......DS WOULD BE POINTLESS. THATS ALL IM SAYING......AND > ALSO.....ANY WLS IS DRASTIC.......THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS OK TO CRITICISE > SOMEONE WHO IS HAVING RNY DONE. THEY ARE ALL DRASTIC AND LIFE > CHANGING......THATS WHY I SIGNED UP FOR THIS LIST.......FOR GROUP SUPPORT FOR > WLS PERIOD. NOT TO BE MADE TO FEEL LIKE IM STUPID, >> then you are on the WRONG LIST. There are hundreds of RNY lists you can go to and you should go to them. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2001 Report Share Posted November 26, 2001 In a message dated 11/26/01 9:02:58 PM Eastern Standard Time, duodenalswitch writes: << Jean. p.s. I still don't understand the RNY vs DS all-or-nothing mentality. It's small-minded. >> Read the post that wrote and it you still feel this way, you need to go to all the RNY lists and bash DS all you want there. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 This is a DS list, which means that probably every one on this list thought about the RNY and decided against it for reasons that we are more than happy to share with you and others. If you are looking for a lot of support for having the RNY and do not want to hear about why we think the DS is a far superior surgery, then you ARE ON THE WRONG LIST. There are many lists for people whose minds are closed to the DS and do not want to hear about why we think it is an inferior surgery. This is NOT one of those lists. If you stay here you will have to read over and over why we made our choice and why we hope anyone thinking about the RNY will reconsider theirs. Most of us decided to give up punishing ourselves by surgery and have the option of a more normal life in which we can eat normal foods in normal amounts and have a normal body weight. We think that is far beter than restrictions and punishment of the RNY. Most of us believe that the RNY is an inferior surgery and to be avoided unless the person has absolutely no other choice. Most of us were where you were at one time and opened our minds to the DS and are so happy about it. I have many many friends who had the RNY and would not want their problems. /Seattle > SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT I GUESS. I DONT GET SOME PEOPLE. I AM HAVING > RNY BECAUSE I NEED MORE RESTRICTION IN MY LIFE....HOW AM I GOING TO LOSE > WEIGHT IF I LOVE TO EAT SUGAR? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2001 Report Share Posted November 27, 2001 Honey, did you read the name of this list before you signed up? This is the DS SUPPORT LIST, not the RNY Support List. We specifically choose DS surgery here, not anything else. We believe in it and we believe the RNY surgery is generally not a good choice. Sorry, but if you're looking for support for the RNY, you're on the WRONG LIST! Tracey in Santee (San Diego) Dr. Keshishian 11/12/01 > SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST IGNORANT I GUESS. I DONT GET SOME PEOPLE. I AM HAVING > RNY BECAUSE I NEED MORE RESTRICTION IN MY LIFE.....ANY WLS IS DRASTIC.......THAT DOESNT MEAN ITS OK TO CRITICISE > SOMEONE WHO IS HAVING RNY DONE. THEY ARE ALL DRASTIC AND LIFE > CHANGING......THATS WHY I SIGNED UP FOR THIS LIST.......FOR GROUP SUPPORT FOR > WLS PERIOD. NOT TO BE MADE TO FEEL LIKE IM STUPID, BECAUSE I CHOSE A > DIFFERENT SURGERY THAN YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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