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Hi, again.

I DO know that the length of the common channel has much to do with

the production of gas and/or diarrhea, but I think the nausea

component is very short-lived and individualized. You shouldn't have

any trouble with the 100 cm., and if you don't lose for some bizarre

reason, Gagner will make it shorter. I agree with him and other

surgeons who start with the 100 cm., however, because it's so much

easier to be on the safe side of absorption. Gagner himself says

that it's easier to shorten than to lengthen (I asked him about this

in October, during my consult).

Regarding the ability to measure the channel laparoscopically (and

this is a touchy subject, apparently, because those advocates of open

D/S claim that it can't be done as accurately): Dr. Gagner says that

with his animal studies, his 100 cm. length always was within 5% when

they opened the animals up afterwards. The open procedure has a 5-10%

variation expectation, as does the laparoscopic. Now, this is with

the lap surgeon extraordinaire. Who knows if other lap doctors have

the same results. Gagner does. Incidentally, in asking him on

Wednesday about his somewhat unique ability to be SO good at what he

does, he answered something like this (after some prodding and pleas

not to be modest):

" I have this laparoscopic surgery in my blood. It's a part of me.

I can understand, see, and work with the 3D images on the camera very

easily for some reason. Although it's second-nature for me, it's very

hard for most doctors, probably because of this hand-eye coordination

ofimages on a TV screen. I'm also ambidextrous, which plays a part in

my ability to do this well. "

Best,

From: asaz@...

To: mkf5t@...

Subject: Re: NO LEAK TEST!

Date sent: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 07:29:24 +0000

> I have another question again michelle if you don't mind?

>

> i was on the problem list and I saw posts about people

> having severe problems with diarrea and nausea. Since u

> have been going to dr. gagner have u noticed that these

> have been big problems for his dsers. i know he gives a

> channel of 100, but i have heard since everyone is built

> different it is impossible to gaurantee channel length

> when doing lap. the only reason i bring this up is i am

> wondering how much channel lenght has to do with diarrea

> and nausea? thanks if u have any answers or comments.

> thanks bb

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