Guest guest Posted November 29, 2001 Report Share Posted November 29, 2001 OK I have to jump in on this. Diabetes, even type ll diabetes, is not cured by the DS, but is ~controlled~ by weight loss. Right now there is no cure for diabetes other than a pancreatic organ replacement. It's important for diabetics to continue to test to make sure their blood glucose level remains low. Although I am no longer on insulin, I'm still a diabetic and I make sure to test several times a week (fasting and after a couple of meals where I have had starches). Our beta cells, the insulin making cells, don't have to overwork themselves to pump out glucogen/insulin as hard when we lose weight. Sometimes the drasticly fast weight loss can make an immediate difference to a diabetic. For me, I quit using insulin the first week out of the hospital because I wasn't eating very much (no duh). As my meals increased in quantity and as I added the occasional sweet to my diet (Oreos today) I make sure I continue to test. After the sweets this afternoon, my glucose level rose to 148 but dropped quickly. I'm glad my body is responding so well to surgery but I'll never be cured of diabetes. Elle in oregon - under 200# for the first time in decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 Elle - Your statement that the diabetes is " controlled by weight loss " is something many docs and I have debated recently. There's got to be more to it than that. By my second post-op day my diabetes was GONE. Not better, GONE. I don't know if you are familiar with what happens to diabetics with any other surgery or bodily trauma - their blood sugars usually skyrocket. Frequently they are put on a sliding scale to give extra insulin dosing throughout the day until their sugars stabilize again. (This can take just a few days or several weeks.) Even if the patient has never used insulin, just oral medications or diet and exercise this is the standard treatment. In the hospital I was amazed that the nurses weren't doing routine blood checks to make sure I hadn't had the same reaction. Their response was that with the DS they usually didn't need to. The only reason my BS was checked then was that I was having an extremely high urine output, one of the classic symptoms of elevated BS. My reading was 62. I'd been a pretty well controlled diabetic for nearly 10 years but hadn't seen a fasting result less than 120 for years. Now, six months later, I still check my BS occasionally. It's never been over 85. My HgbA1c has been perfect each time it's been tested. My poor PCP is totally flabbergasted. It's just not supposed to be this way! Especially with my high fat, no-diet lifestyle. My mother's endocrinologist and I were discussing this last week. She agrees that I will always be called a diabetic, once you have that label on you it never leaves. But, she agrees with me - the DS DOES cure diabetes, not just control it. P post-op 05-30-01 6 month anniversary! Dr. Kim, Ocean Spgs, MS down 93 lbs!!! > OK I have to jump in on this. > Diabetes, even type ll diabetes, is not cured by the DS, but is ~controlled~ by weight loss. Right now there is no > cure for diabetes other than a pancreatic organ replacement. > It's important for diabetics to continue to test to make sure their blood glucose level remains low. > Although I am no longer on insulin, I'm still a diabetic and I make sure to test several times a week (fasting and after a > couple of meals where I have had starches). > Our beta cells, the insulin making cells, don't have to overwork themselves to pump out glucogen/insulin as hard > when we lose weight. Sometimes the drasticly fast weight loss can make an immediate difference to a diabetic. > > For me, I quit using insulin the first week out of the hospital because I wasn't eating very much (no duh). As my > meals increased in quantity and as I added the occasional sweet to my diet (Oreos today) I make sure I continue to > test. After the sweets this afternoon, my glucose level rose to 148 but dropped quickly. > > I'm glad my body is responding so well to surgery but I'll never be cured of diabetes. > > Elle in oregon - under 200# for the first time in decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 - My experience is the same as yours. I haven't taken glucophage since BEFORE my surgery and my sugars have been perfect ever since. I am pregnant now, and before I knew I was pregnant, I was craving Orange Juice all day long (must have been craving the folic acid?) and I was drinking TONS of it all day long for a week & a half at least. The day I confirmed my pregnancy at the doctor's, they did an HBA1C and the result was a lovely 5.3. And I've been eating carbs & candy too - naughty me. LOL I really do think I'm cured - not with quotes either, LOL (Not " cured " , but cured!) Oh, and ever since I've known I was pregnant, I've been taking a folic acid supplement and my O.J. cravings went away! -Sherry (Lake Marcel, WA) Duodenal Switch Surgery Feb. 2, 2001 Currently 7 Weeks Pregnant! self-pay 5'5 " / 273 pounds / 34 years old Lost 9 pounds in pre-op weight loss efforts Have lost 138 pounds since surgery! Total of 147 pounds gone forEVER! http://www.fluffynet.com/wls/ > > OK I have to jump in on this. > > Diabetes, even type ll diabetes, is not cured by the DS, but is > ~controlled~ by weight loss. Right now there is no > > cure for diabetes other than a pancreatic organ replacement. > > It's important for diabetics to continue to test to make sure their > blood glucose level remains low. > > Although I am no longer on insulin, I'm still a diabetic and I make > sure to test several times a week (fasting and after a > > couple of meals where I have had starches). > > Our beta cells, the insulin making cells, don't have to overwork > themselves to pump out glucogen/insulin as hard > > when we lose weight. Sometimes the drasticly fast weight loss can > make an immediate difference to a diabetic. > > > > For me, I quit using insulin the first week out of the hospital > because I wasn't eating very much (no duh). As my > > meals increased in quantity and as I added the occasional sweet to > my diet (Oreos today) I make sure I continue to > > test. After the sweets this afternoon, my glucose level rose to > 148 but dropped quickly. > > > > I'm glad my body is responding so well to surgery but I'll never be > cured of diabetes. > > > > Elle in oregon - under 200# for the first time in decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 30, 2001 Report Share Posted November 30, 2001 , That's great! I love those kinds of stories! Ya know, when you have gestational diabetes and it " goes away " after the birth of the child, you don't retain the " diabetic " label. Why shouldn't the same be true for people with adult onset diabetes? Best, P.S. Yes! Gone and not comin' back = CURED > > OK I have to jump in on this. > > Diabetes, even type ll diabetes, is not cured by the DS, but is > ~controlled~ by weight loss. Right now there is no > > cure for diabetes other than a pancreatic organ replacement. > > It's important for diabetics to continue to test to make sure their > blood glucose level remains low. > > Although I am no longer on insulin, I'm still a diabetic and I make > sure to test several times a week (fasting and after a > > couple of meals where I have had starches). > > Our beta cells, the insulin making cells, don't have to overwork > themselves to pump out glucogen/insulin as hard > > when we lose weight. Sometimes the drasticly fast weight loss can > make an immediate difference to a diabetic. > > > > For me, I quit using insulin the first week out of the hospital > because I wasn't eating very much (no duh). As my > > meals increased in quantity and as I added the occasional sweet to > my diet (Oreos today) I make sure I continue to > > test. After the sweets this afternoon, my glucose level rose to > 148 but dropped quickly. > > > > I'm glad my body is responding so well to surgery but I'll never be > cured of diabetes. > > > > Elle in oregon - under 200# for the first time in decades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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