Re: BPD/DS = accelerated Atkins Diet

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In a message dated 12/4/01 7:10:03 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<<

I know. It's a provocative and inflammatory subject line. But I'm

starting to feel this way. I can't even get past 62 grams of protein

in a day. ALL the liquid proteins make me hurl. Powders aren't as

bad but I need to put peanut butter in them to cover the taste, and I

soon get sick of eating all that peanut butter. Most protein bars

suck. I found one decent-tasting bar called " Balance " with 15 grams

of protein, but it's high in carbs--20 something. I snack on nuts

and string cheese and jerky but how am I going to do this for the

rest of my life? I never thought I'd be so upset about protein.

>>

: How are you with dairy? A good way to 'sneak in' at least 12-20+

gms is to have a yogurt int he am and have 2 glasses of milk or so a day....

Liquid protein (and not just powders -- but soy milk and milk) are good ways

to get the stuff down without really realizing it.

I started out with Lactaid fat-free... I'm not sure if that's the only reason

I didn't have any reactions to it, but I'm sure it didn't hurt? Cottage

cheese is also another great way -- it's more packed at like 12

gms/serving... with a little low-sugar pears and peaches.. yum!

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 198 lbs/size sweet 16

[Guest guest]

,

I am sitting here drinking a can of Atkins Chocolate Delight Protien

drink. it is the only one that I can drink--it actually goes down

good.

I wasted money on all these stupid bars--Luna yuck---I'm not much of

a granola or candy bar eater and these things go down like rocks.

You can get the Atkins drinks at Walmart or GNC. I drink a can and

1/2 for 30gr protein extra. I split it up. I just can't eat enough

real food yet to get enuf protien.

Pammi

> I know. It's a provocative and inflammatory subject line. But I'm

> starting to feel this way. I can't even get past 62 grams of

protein

> in a day. ALL the liquid proteins make me hurl. Powders aren't as

> bad but I need to put peanut butter in them to cover the taste, and

I

> soon get sick of eating all that peanut butter. Most protein bars

> suck. I found one decent-tasting bar called " Balance " with 15

grams

> of protein, but it's high in carbs--20 something. I snack on nuts

> and string cheese and jerky but how am I going to do this for the

> rest of my life? I never thought I'd be so upset about protein.

>

>

> Dr. Gagner

> lap BPD/DS 11-20-01

> -17#s

[Guest guest]

OK, Pammi.

Why not? I've tried everything else and I am going to Walmart

tomorrow. I'll let you know how it tastes.

Thanks,

> > I know. It's a provocative and inflammatory subject line. But

I'm

> > starting to feel this way. I can't even get past 62 grams of

> protein

> > in a day. ALL the liquid proteins make me hurl. Powders aren't

as

> > bad but I need to put peanut butter in them to cover the taste,

and

> I

> > soon get sick of eating all that peanut butter. Most protein

bars

> > suck. I found one decent-tasting bar called " Balance " with 15

> grams

> > of protein, but it's high in carbs--20 something. I snack on

nuts

> > and string cheese and jerky but how am I going to do this for the

> > rest of my life? I never thought I'd be so upset about protein.

> >

> >

> > Dr. Gagner

> > lap BPD/DS 11-20-01

> > -17#s

[Guest guest]

Thanks, . It's awfully nice of you to respond to me when your

mama's doing so poorly. I am sorry to hear about what's happened.

My mom's going in for surgery in 2 weeks and she's 55. I know that

there are also others around that age who are braving the " knife. "

Maybe these examples could serve as inspiration for her.

Yeah, I do like yogurt. I love milk, but really want to drink it

WITH food, but when I do that there's little room for the food

itself. Maybe one day I can drink milk with food again? Like

brownies and pie and cookies?

Best,

> : How are you with dairy? A good way to 'sneak in' at

least 12-20+

> gms is to have a yogurt int he am and have 2 glasses of milk or so

a day....

> Liquid protein (and not just powders -- but soy milk and milk) are

good ways

> to get the stuff down without really realizing it.

>

> I started out with Lactaid fat-free... I'm not sure if that's the

only reason

> I didn't have any reactions to it, but I'm sure it didn't hurt?

Cottage

> cheese is also another great way -- it's more packed at like 12

> gms/serving... with a little low-sugar pears and peaches.. yum!

>

> all the best,

>

> lap ds with gallbladder removal

> January 25, 2001

> Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

>

> 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

>

> preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

> now: 198 lbs/size sweet 16

[Guest guest]

I too have found that the only protein drink I can stomach is the

Atkins premixed ones in the can. They can get pricey but I just

picked up 40 of each flavor for $1.88 on the web.

Open DS 7/6/01

> > ,

> > I am sitting here drinking a can of Atkins Chocolate Delight

> Protien

> > drink. it is the only one that I can drink--it actually goes

down

> > good.

[Guest guest]

---Where on the web?

In duodenalswitch@y..., @B... wrote:

> I too have found that the only protein drink I can stomach is the

> Atkins premixed ones in the can. They can get pricey but I just

> picked up 40 of each flavor for $1.88 on the web.

>

>

> Open DS 7/6/01

>

>

>

>

> > > ,

> > > I am sitting here drinking a can of Atkins Chocolate Delight

> > Protien

> > > drink. it is the only one that I can drink--it actually goes

> down

> > > good.

[Guest guest]

WWW.lowcarb.com

They've been great, quick service, no complaints.

> > I too have found that the only protein drink I can stomach is the

> > Atkins premixed ones in the can. They can get pricey but I just

> > picked up 40 of each flavor for $1.88 on the web.

> >

> >

> > Open DS 7/6/01

[Guest guest]

, honey, you only had surgery a couple weeks ago! You don't

have to get in that 62 grams of protein just yet! Just concentrate

on getting in protein first. If you can't, then just concentrate on

what you CAN eat that doesn't upset your stomach. I'm 3 weeks and

one day out and I do try to eat protein first but some days my

stomach is just too upset and so I have mashed potatoes or something

smooth like that. You're still healing and will be for awhile.

It'll get better! I'm able to eat a new food almost everyday now.

Just one week will make a difference. Try to have patience.

Hugs!

Tracey in Santee (San Diego)

Dr. Keshishian 11/12/01

> I know. It's a provocative and inflammatory subject line. But I'm

> starting to feel this way. I can't even get past 62 grams of

protein

> in a day. ALL the liquid proteins make me hurl. Powders aren't as

> bad but I need to put peanut butter in them to cover the taste, and

I

> soon get sick of eating all that peanut butter. Most protein bars

> suck. I found one decent-tasting bar called " Balance " with 15

grams

> of protein, but it's high in carbs--20 something. I snack on nuts

> and string cheese and jerky but how am I going to do this for the

> rest of my life? I never thought I'd be so upset about protein.

>

>

> Dr. Gagner

> lap BPD/DS 11-20-01

> -17#s

[Guest guest]

Just a side point--the Atkins is made from whey protein which I hear

is supposed to be better---do I know why? Can't remember----duh!

> > > I know. It's a provocative and inflammatory subject line. But

> I'm

> > > starting to feel this way. I can't even get past 62 grams of

> > protein

> > > in a day. ALL the liquid proteins make me hurl. Powders

aren't

> as

> > > bad but I need to put peanut butter in them to cover the taste,

> and

> > I

> > > soon get sick of eating all that peanut butter. Most protein

> bars

> > > suck. I found one decent-tasting bar called " Balance " with 15

> > grams

> > > of protein, but it's high in carbs--20 something. I snack on

> nuts

> > > and string cheese and jerky but how am I going to do this for

the

> > > rest of my life? I never thought I'd be so upset about protein.

> > >

> > >

> > > Dr. Gagner

> > > lap BPD/DS 11-20-01

> > > -17#s

[Guest guest]

What is the URL for this ---I want to order!!

Pammi

> > > ,

> > > I am sitting here drinking a can of Atkins Chocolate Delight

> > Protien

> > > drink. it is the only one that I can drink--it actually goes

> down

> > > good.

[Guest guest]

Second thought---I got 4 cans for 7.86 at Walmart--only 30cents

more. Does the Cappacino flaver come in premixed cans?

Pammi

> > > ,

> > > I am sitting here drinking a can of Atkins Chocolate Delight

> > Protien

> > > drink. it is the only one that I can drink--it actually goes

> down

> > > good.

[Guest guest]

No, just vanilla, chocolate and strawberry. I've never tried the

stuff I have to mix.

> Second thought---I got 4 cans for 7.86 at Walmart--only 30cents

> more. Does the Cappacino flaver come in premixed cans?

>

> Pammi

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Tracey.

Maybe I am being too much of a freak about all this so soon. Reminds

me of Hull when he tried to walk while still in the recovery

room because he was afraid of embolisms. I am the same way! You

shoulda seen me trying (and crying about) dragging my sorry butt out

of the hospital bed right when I got to my floor. (Love ya, Chris!)

OK--deep breath. I will try not to go nuts about this (at least for

another hour)!

Love,

> > I know. It's a provocative and inflammatory subject line. But

I'm

> > starting to feel this way. I can't even get past 62 grams of

> protein

> > in a day. ALL the liquid proteins make me hurl. Powders aren't

as

> > bad but I need to put peanut butter in them to cover the taste,

and

> I

> > soon get sick of eating all that peanut butter. Most protein

bars

> > suck. I found one decent-tasting bar called " Balance " with 15

> grams

> > of protein, but it's high in carbs--20 something. I snack on

nuts

> > and string cheese and jerky but how am I going to do this for the

> > rest of my life? I never thought I'd be so upset about protein.

> >

> >

> > Dr. Gagner

> > lap BPD/DS 11-20-01

> > -17#s

[Guest guest]

Dear :

Yes, you will again have milk with your food and that includes brownies,

pies and cake never fear.

I am sitting here eating an ice cream sandwich and it is yummy but I still

find it interesting that about 3/4 of the way through and sometimes after

only a couple of bites I want something that is protein instead like meat

although I do like cottage cheese with pineapple and will eat that instead of

something sugary sweet.

As your new system changes you will find that you will eat more and even

more importantly a broader range of things. It is fine to eat carbs with your

protein just try to eat more protein than carbs and if you don't well there

is always the next time.

I am 3 years post-op this coming January 13th and I still eat every 3-4

hours and that seems to suit my body so that is how I eat and Dr. A and

Carole have told me that is the best way to eat anyway and as you can see

from my stats this has worked for me.

The other thing I have always done is eat fats I eat a lot of them everyday

and mostly my system does well with them and I get the wonderful benefits of

having great tasting food.

You hang in there and keeping asking those questions.

Huggles,

Tiger Lake

Female

160 lbs. BMI 21.7

224lbs gone

165 1/2 inches gone

6' -- 53yrs young

Dr. Anthone@USC So. Calif.

Open DS

Surgery 1/13/99 384lbs BMI 51.21

Last Visit 4/20/99 315.5 BMI 42.07

7/19/99 274.8 BMI 36.64

9/03/99 259.3 BMI 34.54

10/04/99 252.4 BMI 34.02

10/25/99 231 BMI 32

12/17/99 217.5 BMI 30.2

01/19/00 211 BMI 28

02/20/00 195 BMI 26

04/08/00 182.9 BMI 25

Hernia repair on 06/07/00 Dr. Anthone

Tummy Tuck & Breast Reduction Dr. Downey

06/07/00 160 BMI 21.7

01/08/01 164.3 BMI 21.7

Total Weight Loss! 224.1lbs GONE!

Total inches lost 154.5

http://www.duodenalswitch.com (our groups very own web site)

[Guest guest]

> Dear :

>

> > I am sitting here eating an ice cream sandwich and it is yummy

but I still

> find it interesting that about 3/4 of the way through and sometimes

after

> only a couple of bites I want something that is protein instead like

meat

> although I do like cottage cheese with pineapple and will eat that

instead of

> something sugary sweet.

>

Tiger: Man, that's happened to me as well! How bizzare... my body

really does crave protein much more but I still have moments where I

just want 'something sweet'. Sometimes the real thing isn't as

appealing as fruit yogurt or, like you mentioned, cottage cheese with

fruit! Wild!

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 198 lbs/bmi 28/size sweet 16, but squeezin' into 1