Re: Re: A small victory!/chill pills all around! LOL

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In a message dated 11/24/01 4:19:53 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

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This has gotten redicously out of hand. All I wanted to do was to

tell you all that my mom had finally come around and I was happy

about it. I never intended to start a ground war.

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: There is no ground war! Everyone chill ---- There was one

poster who countered that the surgery was NOT reversible. thought

this poster was in bad taste. Then, Nick said some sarcastic things while

others responded in between and honestly I don't think said anything

offensive or off-mark in the least.

I don't recognize the original responder --- perhaps he is not a frequent

poster. But, -- If you really have a beef with this guy, why don't

you tell him personally? If you also didn't like the other responses (from

Patti, myself and many others -- Liane, too, I think?), please let us know

what we said that was in such a malicious tone.... And, Nick...

Well, Nick is Nick. ROFL I can understand how his responses could offend or

perplex but it goes with the territory, I think as far as he's concerned...

There will be disagreements on the list -- And a poster saying that he

thought the DS really shouldn't be considered 'reversible' (even though

technically part of it is) really didn't register on *my radar* as attacking

anyone by any means....

Let's just say for the record: The DS IS partially reversible. We really

don't have that much data as to how a patient would react to this or how much

risk would be involved. But, we can guess that it most likely wouldn't be

that traumatic and the intestines would function as before (remember - they

have been totally rerouted with the BPD -- and most of the intestines would

have become accustomed to either only transporting bile/pancreatic juices OR

only transporting chyme from the stomach. The last 100 cm or had to adjust

to to being the only portion that actually digests with an original DS

surgery-- well, in the addition to the 5 cm or so of duodenum left before the

BPD split).

Indications have shown that post-op DS patients' common channels adapt highly

and change to maximize absorption... so it is very probable that the rest of

the intestines could 'adjust back' to digestion after only being used as

'conduits' for an extended period of time in the event of a reversal...

The stomach will increase in size as a post-op but this varies by individual

and one can't really say for sure what the final 'capacity' will be since it

varies. The fact that this partial gastrectomy is NOT reversible really

isn't an issue for post-op DSers because the stomach retains it's normal

functionality with the sleeve gastrectomy; it is only smaller (and this is a

PLUS for overeaters).

Some people DID pick up on the fact that wanted to express her joy at

having her mom accept her pending surgery. They talked about their

experiences with parents' acceptance or hesitance/rejection.

That's what I got out of the discussion, at least! LOL

all the best,

Noverr-Chin

co-moderator, duodenalswitch

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

almost 10 months post-op and still feelin' fabu

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 202 lbs/size sweet 16/large-MEDIUM in normal people's clothing